Leaving the USA
Jul 26th 2003, 3:46 pm
#31
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Re: Leaving the USA
"Pepper" wrote in message
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>
> He hasn't blamed the Irish for anything though....
You asked for it :-)
There were a bunch of Irishmen married to USCs who were caught
here in the US in a federal sting operation for supplying contrabands
to the IRA to support their foreign activities.
Do your British ex-spats friends think those Irishmen were good US immigrants?
Their wives and children are real Americans, and are petitioning to keep
them in the USA despite what they did.
If they were Pakistani instead of Irish, the story would
have been very different now.
Not all immigrants appear to be treated equally here in the USA.
news:[email protected]...
>
> He hasn't blamed the Irish for anything though....
You asked for it :-)
There were a bunch of Irishmen married to USCs who were caught
here in the US in a federal sting operation for supplying contrabands
to the IRA to support their foreign activities.
Do your British ex-spats friends think those Irishmen were good US immigrants?
Their wives and children are real Americans, and are petitioning to keep
them in the USA despite what they did.
If they were Pakistani instead of Irish, the story would
have been very different now.
Not all immigrants appear to be treated equally here in the USA.
Jul 28th 2003, 4:58 am
#32
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Nov 2002
Location: Birmingham, USA
Posts: 802
Re: Leaving the USA
This guy, Amer20034, posts moronic posts about his hate for America. Ignore him.
Originally posted by Amer20034
There were so many postings about entering the USA that I thought there
should be one about leaving the USA:
Thank you for visiting the USA.
Please return to your HOMEland now, work hard, and make your country a better
place
to live in, for youself and others like yourself.
Immigration is not always a good thing.
It costs money, and you may not like the USA, and many immigrants decide to
return to their HOMEland after living here for a couple of years anyway.
The U.S. has high crime, un-employment etc. and you will have to deal with
the INS bozos, which no normal person really wants to do.
Some real Americans even like watching the immigrants have to deal
with the INS bozos.
And you won't need to answer difficult U.S. immigration questions
about your past too.
So remain in your country and have a good life.
There were so many postings about entering the USA that I thought there
should be one about leaving the USA:
Thank you for visiting the USA.
Please return to your HOMEland now, work hard, and make your country a better
place
to live in, for youself and others like yourself.
Immigration is not always a good thing.
It costs money, and you may not like the USA, and many immigrants decide to
return to their HOMEland after living here for a couple of years anyway.
The U.S. has high crime, un-employment etc. and you will have to deal with
the INS bozos, which no normal person really wants to do.
Some real Americans even like watching the immigrants have to deal
with the INS bozos.
And you won't need to answer difficult U.S. immigration questions
about your past too.
So remain in your country and have a good life.
Jul 29th 2003, 3:51 pm
#33
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Re: Leaving the USA
yeeah...don.t mind him.
this guy just loose the job.
he's really **** up now
this guy just loose the job.
he's really **** up now
Aug 7th 2003, 11:12 am
#34
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Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Nevada b4 California b4 Colorado b4 Valley of plastic and sand, b4 London
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Re: Leaving the USA
Originally posted by Amer20034
"Carlos, The Jackal" wrote in message
news:chWTa.45396$b03.7307@lakeread03...
> "ray6" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Obviously you lost someone or something to a foreigner and its playing
> > on your mind. a persecution complex must be an awful feeling, But if it
> > helps to write such things.. you go ahead..Some of us value your
> > opinion, it help us to see how hard life is for others.
> >
>
> All losers can do is blame others for their failures. If Mr. Amer20034 had
> anything productive to do, he wouldn't be here telling other people what
> they ought to do with their lives.
The alternative is for real Americans to do absolutely nothing until it is too
late to
do anything about it.
Then, real Americans can try to emigrate to get away from all the problems,
like you.
"Carlos, The Jackal" wrote in message
news:chWTa.45396$b03.7307@lakeread03...
> "ray6" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Obviously you lost someone or something to a foreigner and its playing
> > on your mind. a persecution complex must be an awful feeling, But if it
> > helps to write such things.. you go ahead..Some of us value your
> > opinion, it help us to see how hard life is for others.
> >
>
> All losers can do is blame others for their failures. If Mr. Amer20034 had
> anything productive to do, he wouldn't be here telling other people what
> they ought to do with their lives.
The alternative is for real Americans to do absolutely nothing until it is too
late to
do anything about it.
Then, real Americans can try to emigrate to get away from all the problems,
like you.
Gee man, I hope this anger that you have leaves you soul before you hurt someone.
Aug 10th 2003, 1:01 am
#35
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Posts: n/a
Re: Leaving the USA
Originally posted by "veryfunny" <[email protected]>:
>In order to be born in the US someone somewhere had to immigrate.
What is it with you Brits and this fixation on ancestry?
Is this why you Brits support a monarchy blindly?
Where were YOU born?
Not your parents or ancestors. I mean YOU!
You want entry concessions into the USA today because
there were immigrants here in the past before you?
>Gee man, I hope this anger that you have leaves you soul before you
>hurt someone.
The messages in this newsgroup prove that it is you criminal Brits
posting from your British ex-spats accounts who are trying to come
to the USA in large numbers to continue committing violent crimes here.
So please declare your criminal history at the POE.
And have your criminal records/documents ready for INS inspection, or
we will have to send you back home.
Brits can place their criminal records inside a folder with the Union Jack
on the front cover for easy identification by our INS agents at the POE.
Patriotic Brits can also stick a picture of the Queen on the top right
corner of that folder, like a postage stamp.
And please teach your Manchester United hooligans to behave, and
keep them in the UK.
Because no country wants them.
>In order to be born in the US someone somewhere had to immigrate.
What is it with you Brits and this fixation on ancestry?
Is this why you Brits support a monarchy blindly?
Where were YOU born?
Not your parents or ancestors. I mean YOU!
You want entry concessions into the USA today because
there were immigrants here in the past before you?
>Gee man, I hope this anger that you have leaves you soul before you
>hurt someone.
The messages in this newsgroup prove that it is you criminal Brits
posting from your British ex-spats accounts who are trying to come
to the USA in large numbers to continue committing violent crimes here.
So please declare your criminal history at the POE.
And have your criminal records/documents ready for INS inspection, or
we will have to send you back home.
Brits can place their criminal records inside a folder with the Union Jack
on the front cover for easy identification by our INS agents at the POE.
Patriotic Brits can also stick a picture of the Queen on the top right
corner of that folder, like a postage stamp.
And please teach your Manchester United hooligans to behave, and
keep them in the UK.
Because no country wants them.
Aug 10th 2003, 11:45 am
#36
Maño-Americano
Joined: Apr 2003
Location: In the heart of the Ozarks
Posts: 10,216
Ignorance
As an American, I must beg pardon from all who this idiot insults with his hatred.
Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
I am sure he is also unaware of other celebs such as: General John Shalikashvili, Admiral Hyman G. Rickover, Madeleine Albright, Henry Kissinger, Alexander Graham Bell, Bob Hope, Angela Landsbury, Gloria Estefan, Ann Margret, Sidney Poitier, Mikhail Baryshnikov, Malcom Forbes, Irving Berlin, Al Jolson, Frank Capra, Pamela Anderson, Edward Teller, Enrico Fermi, Albert Einstein, Andrew Carnegie, Thomas Mann, Charlie Chaplin, Joseph Pulitzer, Alfred Hitchcock, Louis B. Mayer, Samuel Goldwyn, Levi Strauss, Carlos Santana, Gene Simmons, Peter Jennings, Neil Diamond, Andre Agassi or many hundreds of others whose contributions have helped make America what it is today (for better or worse).
We of course have many famous "Real" Americans, such as: Timothy McVeigh, Charles Manson, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Dillinger, Billy the Kid, O.J. Simpson...
There are good and bad in all lands. There are people that contribute, and those that leech off of every society.
While I might agree that America is being flooded by immigrants in the last 50 years, and I personally believe that too many from certain countries are being allowed in- I do believe that most will be an asset to the US.
Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
I am sure he is also unaware of other celebs such as: General John Shalikashvili, Admiral Hyman G. Rickover, Madeleine Albright, Henry Kissinger, Alexander Graham Bell, Bob Hope, Angela Landsbury, Gloria Estefan, Ann Margret, Sidney Poitier, Mikhail Baryshnikov, Malcom Forbes, Irving Berlin, Al Jolson, Frank Capra, Pamela Anderson, Edward Teller, Enrico Fermi, Albert Einstein, Andrew Carnegie, Thomas Mann, Charlie Chaplin, Joseph Pulitzer, Alfred Hitchcock, Louis B. Mayer, Samuel Goldwyn, Levi Strauss, Carlos Santana, Gene Simmons, Peter Jennings, Neil Diamond, Andre Agassi or many hundreds of others whose contributions have helped make America what it is today (for better or worse).
We of course have many famous "Real" Americans, such as: Timothy McVeigh, Charles Manson, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Dillinger, Billy the Kid, O.J. Simpson...
There are good and bad in all lands. There are people that contribute, and those that leech off of every society.
While I might agree that America is being flooded by immigrants in the last 50 years, and I personally believe that too many from certain countries are being allowed in- I do believe that most will be an asset to the US.
Aug 10th 2003, 1:23 pm
#37
Corpsicle
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: NYC
Posts: 648
Re: Ignorance
Originally posted by ironporer
Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
However, a number of members in the political and command structures of the Continental Congress where either British by birth or descent, had studied there, or had ties to England.
Aug 11th 2003, 12:33 am
#38
Maño-Americano
Joined: Apr 2003
Location: In the heart of the Ozarks
Posts: 10,216
I stand corrected
You are right- I guess my memory is fading, or I misunderstood some Jeopardy question. Alzheimers perhaps, or perhaps lack of investigation. Sorry
Aug 11th 2003, 4:55 am
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Leaving the USA
ironporer <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> As an American, I must beg pardon from all who this idiot insults with
> his hatred.
>
>
>
> Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James
> Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben
> Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were
> born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
>
>
>
> I am sure he is also unaware of other celebs such as: General John
> Shalikashvili, Admiral Hyman G. Rickover, Madeleine Albright, Henry
> Kissinger, Alexander Graham Bell, Bob Hope, Angela Landsbury, Gloria
> Estefan, Ann Margret, Sidney Poitier, Mikhail Baryshnikov, Malcom
> Forbes, Irving Berlin, Al Jolson, Frank Capra, Pamela Anderson,
> Edward Teller, Enrico Fermi, Albert Einstein, Andrew Carnegie, Thomas
> Mann, Charlie Chaplin, Joseph Pulitzer, Alfred Hitchcock, Louis B.
> Mayer, Samuel Goldwyn, Levi Strauss, Carlos Santana, Gene Simmons,
> Peter Jennings, Neil Diamond, Andre Agassi or many hundreds of others
> whose contributions have helped make America what it is today (for
> better or worse).
>
>
>
> We of course have many famous "Real" Americans, such as: Timothy
> McVeigh, Charles Manson, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Dillinger, Billy the
> Kid, O.J. Simpson...
>
>
>
> There are good and bad in all lands. There are people that contribute,
> and those that leech off of every society.
>
>
>
> While I might agree that America is being flooded by immigrants in the
> last 50 years, and I personally believe that too many from certain
> countries are being allowed in- I do believe that most will be an asset
> to the US.
*******I agree with most of your post, particularly since I am married
to a foreigner and have had quite a few interesting experiences during
our immigration experience.
A BIG *however*....you are extremely WRONG about the place of birth
regarding the founding fathers you mentioned. I am a 14th generation
Virginian and I know American History like the back of my hand. I am
blood *related* to most of the names you dropped. Every one of them
were BORN in America.
Where in the *world* are you getting your information? I've got a very
busy life but this post was so shocking to me that I am more than
happy to provide you with citations to prove I am right. In the
meantime, pick up some early American biographies. You clearly need to
become better educated on these matters.
> As an American, I must beg pardon from all who this idiot insults with
> his hatred.
>
>
>
> Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James
> Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben
> Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were
> born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
>
>
>
> I am sure he is also unaware of other celebs such as: General John
> Shalikashvili, Admiral Hyman G. Rickover, Madeleine Albright, Henry
> Kissinger, Alexander Graham Bell, Bob Hope, Angela Landsbury, Gloria
> Estefan, Ann Margret, Sidney Poitier, Mikhail Baryshnikov, Malcom
> Forbes, Irving Berlin, Al Jolson, Frank Capra, Pamela Anderson,
> Edward Teller, Enrico Fermi, Albert Einstein, Andrew Carnegie, Thomas
> Mann, Charlie Chaplin, Joseph Pulitzer, Alfred Hitchcock, Louis B.
> Mayer, Samuel Goldwyn, Levi Strauss, Carlos Santana, Gene Simmons,
> Peter Jennings, Neil Diamond, Andre Agassi or many hundreds of others
> whose contributions have helped make America what it is today (for
> better or worse).
>
>
>
> We of course have many famous "Real" Americans, such as: Timothy
> McVeigh, Charles Manson, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Dillinger, Billy the
> Kid, O.J. Simpson...
>
>
>
> There are good and bad in all lands. There are people that contribute,
> and those that leech off of every society.
>
>
>
> While I might agree that America is being flooded by immigrants in the
> last 50 years, and I personally believe that too many from certain
> countries are being allowed in- I do believe that most will be an asset
> to the US.
*******I agree with most of your post, particularly since I am married
to a foreigner and have had quite a few interesting experiences during
our immigration experience.
A BIG *however*....you are extremely WRONG about the place of birth
regarding the founding fathers you mentioned. I am a 14th generation
Virginian and I know American History like the back of my hand. I am
blood *related* to most of the names you dropped. Every one of them
were BORN in America.
Where in the *world* are you getting your information? I've got a very
busy life but this post was so shocking to me that I am more than
happy to provide you with citations to prove I am right. In the
meantime, pick up some early American biographies. You clearly need to
become better educated on these matters.
Aug 14th 2003, 4:46 am
#40
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Re: Leaving the USA
[email protected] (Amer20034) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Posted by "Maarten Andriessen" [email protected]
>
> >They'll go away eventually.
> Like the Dutch trying to leave South Africa in large numbers now, after all
> the years of tyranny they imposed on the locals there? ;-)
The Dutch and English descendents are trying to leave SA due to crime
and that wonderfull ability of the "natives" to drive a country to its
knees, #1 in AIDS, #2 in rape,murder and proverty.
>
> And I'm sure the Dutch would like to start up a stupid colony here
> in the USA as well.
> But there is no such thing as a Dutch-American.
> The Dutch who are here think they are DUTCH-american.
Well, to start off, im of Dutch descent, male line goes back to Hans
ca. 1699-1700, probably goes further back than that but thats as far
as we can prove, Virginia records are skempy from that period.
The Dutch DID start a stupid colony over here, New Amsterdam, and Hans
possibly came from there.
http://www.usahistory.info/colonies/New-Amsterdam.html
Anyways i agree with Amer, im an 'merkan no prefixes.
> But I say if they want to remain here, they should be AMERICAN-dutch.
> And if they prefer to be more Dutch than American, be prepared for more laws
> that will allow the revocation of Green Cards and Naturalized US Citizenships
> for fraudulently claiming allegiance to the USA when you true allegiance is
> to some other useless country.
> Because the USA is far superior to Holland, which is why you are here.
>
> The last thing we want here is more foreign colonies to divide up this great
> country.
> I just wish all the Russians would invade Holland in large numbers and start
> RUSSIAN-dutch colonies and groups out there.
> But the Dutch are too smart and won't allow that to happen in Holland.
Dont know about all that, Holland has a large population muslims who
im sure fit right in.
> Posted by "Maarten Andriessen" [email protected]
>
> >They'll go away eventually.
> Like the Dutch trying to leave South Africa in large numbers now, after all
> the years of tyranny they imposed on the locals there? ;-)
The Dutch and English descendents are trying to leave SA due to crime
and that wonderfull ability of the "natives" to drive a country to its
knees, #1 in AIDS, #2 in rape,murder and proverty.
>
> And I'm sure the Dutch would like to start up a stupid colony here
> in the USA as well.
> But there is no such thing as a Dutch-American.
> The Dutch who are here think they are DUTCH-american.
Well, to start off, im of Dutch descent, male line goes back to Hans
ca. 1699-1700, probably goes further back than that but thats as far
as we can prove, Virginia records are skempy from that period.
The Dutch DID start a stupid colony over here, New Amsterdam, and Hans
possibly came from there.
http://www.usahistory.info/colonies/New-Amsterdam.html
Anyways i agree with Amer, im an 'merkan no prefixes.
> But I say if they want to remain here, they should be AMERICAN-dutch.
> And if they prefer to be more Dutch than American, be prepared for more laws
> that will allow the revocation of Green Cards and Naturalized US Citizenships
> for fraudulently claiming allegiance to the USA when you true allegiance is
> to some other useless country.
> Because the USA is far superior to Holland, which is why you are here.
>
> The last thing we want here is more foreign colonies to divide up this great
> country.
> I just wish all the Russians would invade Holland in large numbers and start
> RUSSIAN-dutch colonies and groups out there.
> But the Dutch are too smart and won't allow that to happen in Holland.
Dont know about all that, Holland has a large population muslims who
im sure fit right in.
Aug 14th 2003, 5:43 am
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Leaving the USA
ironporer <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> As an American, I must beg pardon from all who this idiot insults with
> his hatred.
>
>
>
> Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James
> Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben
> Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were
> born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
>
George Washington (1789-97) Virginia
John Adams (1797-1801) Massachusetts
Thomas Jefferson (1801-09) Virginia
James Madison (1809-17) Virginia
James Monroe (1817-25) Virginia
John Quincy Adams (1825-29) Massachusetts
Andrew Jackson (1829-37) South Carolina
Martin Van Buren (1837-41) New York
William Henry Harrison (1841) Virginia
John Tyler (1841-45) Virginia
James K. Polk (1845-49) North Carolina
Zachary Taylor (1849-50) Virginia
Millard Fillmore (1850-53) New York
Franklin Pierce (1853-57) New Hampshire
James Buchanan (1857-61) Pennsylvania
Abraham Lincoln (1861-65) Kentucky
Andrew Johnson (1865-69) North Carolina
Ulysses S. Grant (1869-77) Ohio
Rutherford B. Hayes (1877-81) Ohio
James A. Garfield (1881) Ohio
Chester A. Arthur (1881-85) Vermont
Grover Cleveland (1885-89) New Jersey
Benjamin Harrison (1889-93) Ohio
Grover Cleveland (1893-97) New Jersey
William McKinley (1897-1901) Ohio
Theodore Roosevelt (1901-09) New York
William H. Taft (1909-13) Ohio
Woodrow Wilson (1913-21) Virginia
Warren G. Harding (1921-23) Ohio
Calvin Coolidge (1923-29) Vermont
Herbert Hoover (1929-33) Iowa
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-45) New York
Harry S. Truman (1945-53) Missouri
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-61) Texas
John F. Kennedy (1961-63) Massachusetts
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-69) Texas
Richard M. Nixon (1969-74) California
Gerald R. Ford (1974-77) Nebraska
Jimmy Carter (1977-81) Georgia
Ronald Reagan (1981-89) Illinois
George Bush (1989-93) Massachusetts
William J. Clinton (1993-2001) Arkansas
George W. Bush (2001-) Connecticut
Neither Franklin or Hamilton were presidents, i see where you have
been called on the carpet, just thought i would rub it in a little.
> As an American, I must beg pardon from all who this idiot insults with
> his hatred.
>
>
>
> Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James
> Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben
> Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were
> born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
>
George Washington (1789-97) Virginia
John Adams (1797-1801) Massachusetts
Thomas Jefferson (1801-09) Virginia
James Madison (1809-17) Virginia
James Monroe (1817-25) Virginia
John Quincy Adams (1825-29) Massachusetts
Andrew Jackson (1829-37) South Carolina
Martin Van Buren (1837-41) New York
William Henry Harrison (1841) Virginia
John Tyler (1841-45) Virginia
James K. Polk (1845-49) North Carolina
Zachary Taylor (1849-50) Virginia
Millard Fillmore (1850-53) New York
Franklin Pierce (1853-57) New Hampshire
James Buchanan (1857-61) Pennsylvania
Abraham Lincoln (1861-65) Kentucky
Andrew Johnson (1865-69) North Carolina
Ulysses S. Grant (1869-77) Ohio
Rutherford B. Hayes (1877-81) Ohio
James A. Garfield (1881) Ohio
Chester A. Arthur (1881-85) Vermont
Grover Cleveland (1885-89) New Jersey
Benjamin Harrison (1889-93) Ohio
Grover Cleveland (1893-97) New Jersey
William McKinley (1897-1901) Ohio
Theodore Roosevelt (1901-09) New York
William H. Taft (1909-13) Ohio
Woodrow Wilson (1913-21) Virginia
Warren G. Harding (1921-23) Ohio
Calvin Coolidge (1923-29) Vermont
Herbert Hoover (1929-33) Iowa
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-45) New York
Harry S. Truman (1945-53) Missouri
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-61) Texas
John F. Kennedy (1961-63) Massachusetts
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-69) Texas
Richard M. Nixon (1969-74) California
Gerald R. Ford (1974-77) Nebraska
Jimmy Carter (1977-81) Georgia
Ronald Reagan (1981-89) Illinois
George Bush (1989-93) Massachusetts
William J. Clinton (1993-2001) Arkansas
George W. Bush (2001-) Connecticut
Neither Franklin or Hamilton were presidents, i see where you have
been called on the carpet, just thought i would rub it in a little.
Aug 14th 2003, 7:03 am
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Leaving the USA
Originally posted by Wiley
ironporer <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> As an American, I must beg pardon from all who this idiot insults with
> his hatred.
>
>
>
> Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James
> Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben
> Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were
> born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
>
George Washington (1789-97) Virginia
John Adams (1797-1801) Massachusetts
Thomas Jefferson (1801-09) Virginia
James Madison (1809-17) Virginia
James Monroe (1817-25) Virginia
John Quincy Adams (1825-29) Massachusetts
Andrew Jackson (1829-37) South Carolina
Martin Van Buren (1837-41) New York
William Henry Harrison (1841) Virginia
John Tyler (1841-45) Virginia
James K. Polk (1845-49) North Carolina
Zachary Taylor (1849-50) Virginia
Millard Fillmore (1850-53) New York
Franklin Pierce (1853-57) New Hampshire
James Buchanan (1857-61) Pennsylvania
Abraham Lincoln (1861-65) Kentucky
Andrew Johnson (1865-69) North Carolina
Ulysses S. Grant (1869-77) Ohio
Rutherford B. Hayes (1877-81) Ohio
James A. Garfield (1881) Ohio
Chester A. Arthur (1881-85) Vermont
Grover Cleveland (1885-89) New Jersey
Benjamin Harrison (1889-93) Ohio
Grover Cleveland (1893-97) New Jersey
William McKinley (1897-1901) Ohio
Theodore Roosevelt (1901-09) New York
William H. Taft (1909-13) Ohio
Woodrow Wilson (1913-21) Virginia
Warren G. Harding (1921-23) Ohio
Calvin Coolidge (1923-29) Vermont
Herbert Hoover (1929-33) Iowa
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-45) New York
Harry S. Truman (1945-53) Missouri
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-61) Texas
John F. Kennedy (1961-63) Massachusetts
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-69) Texas
Richard M. Nixon (1969-74) California
Gerald R. Ford (1974-77) Nebraska
Jimmy Carter (1977-81) Georgia
Ronald Reagan (1981-89) Illinois
George Bush (1989-93) Massachusetts
William J. Clinton (1993-2001) Arkansas
George W. Bush (2001-) Connecticut
Neither Franklin or Hamilton were presidents, i see where you have
been called on the carpet, just thought i would rub it in a little.
ironporer <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> As an American, I must beg pardon from all who this idiot insults with
> his hatred.
>
>
>
> Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James
> Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben
> Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were
> born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
>
George Washington (1789-97) Virginia
John Adams (1797-1801) Massachusetts
Thomas Jefferson (1801-09) Virginia
James Madison (1809-17) Virginia
James Monroe (1817-25) Virginia
John Quincy Adams (1825-29) Massachusetts
Andrew Jackson (1829-37) South Carolina
Martin Van Buren (1837-41) New York
William Henry Harrison (1841) Virginia
John Tyler (1841-45) Virginia
James K. Polk (1845-49) North Carolina
Zachary Taylor (1849-50) Virginia
Millard Fillmore (1850-53) New York
Franklin Pierce (1853-57) New Hampshire
James Buchanan (1857-61) Pennsylvania
Abraham Lincoln (1861-65) Kentucky
Andrew Johnson (1865-69) North Carolina
Ulysses S. Grant (1869-77) Ohio
Rutherford B. Hayes (1877-81) Ohio
James A. Garfield (1881) Ohio
Chester A. Arthur (1881-85) Vermont
Grover Cleveland (1885-89) New Jersey
Benjamin Harrison (1889-93) Ohio
Grover Cleveland (1893-97) New Jersey
William McKinley (1897-1901) Ohio
Theodore Roosevelt (1901-09) New York
William H. Taft (1909-13) Ohio
Woodrow Wilson (1913-21) Virginia
Warren G. Harding (1921-23) Ohio
Calvin Coolidge (1923-29) Vermont
Herbert Hoover (1929-33) Iowa
Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-45) New York
Harry S. Truman (1945-53) Missouri
Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-61) Texas
John F. Kennedy (1961-63) Massachusetts
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-69) Texas
Richard M. Nixon (1969-74) California
Gerald R. Ford (1974-77) Nebraska
Jimmy Carter (1977-81) Georgia
Ronald Reagan (1981-89) Illinois
George Bush (1989-93) Massachusetts
William J. Clinton (1993-2001) Arkansas
George W. Bush (2001-) Connecticut
Neither Franklin or Hamilton were presidents, i see where you have
been called on the carpet, just thought i would rub it in a little.
FFFF..... be proud on a free country where you can to a certain extend choose your lifestyle.
Here in europe we have to many rules, muslims etc
Here they tell you that you can put your garbage out between 06.00 and 06.45 but only if it's blue, humidity is below ... percent and your wife accompanies you in a football shirt.
Guys, be proud to be american. Everywhere is somethin to complain, you live in a great country.
No-one can build somethin alone, we need eachother, even if we want to just visit eachother to have a nice holiday, when we tell you how to find your way around so we all have a nice time.
Life is too short
I've seen orfaniges in Peru with children 2 - 7 years old. They have nothing. BUT they HAVE STILL a smile on their face.
We don't achieve anything with hatred.
so, thats out. Have a nice time
Aug 17th 2003, 5:29 am
#43
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Posts: n/a
Re: Leaving the USA
"ironporer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> As an American, ....
Real or Wannabe?
A real American has a U.S. Birth Certificate.
> Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James
> Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben
> Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were
> born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
Another example of how the Brits try to steal the credit from real Americans.
Is this the kind of nonsense they teach you in the UK?
Slaves worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants (ask Dekka's Angel on British ex-spats)
American Native Indians worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants.
Real Americans who were born in the USA worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants.
Most immigrants these days are useless people trying to take the credit of
a small number of helpful immigrants and try to steal the credit
of non-immigrants.
> I am sure he is also unaware of other celebs such as: General John
> Shalikashvili, Admiral Hyman G. Rickover, Madeleine Albright, Henry
> Kissinger, Alexander Graham Bell, Bob Hope, Angela Landsbury, Gloria
> Estefan, Ann Margret, Sidney Poitier, Mikhail Baryshnikov, Malcom
> Forbes, Irving Berlin, Al Jolson, Frank Capra, Pamela Anderson,
> Edward Teller, Enrico Fermi, Albert Einstein, Andrew Carnegie, Thomas
> Mann, Charlie Chaplin, Joseph Pulitzer, Alfred Hitchcock, Louis B.
> Mayer, Samuel Goldwyn, Levi Strauss, Carlos Santana, Gene Simmons,
> Peter Jennings, Neil Diamond, Andre Agassi or many hundreds of others
> whose contributions have helped make America what it is today (for
> better or worse).
This is a very small number of people compared to the total number of
immigrants
who come here annualy.
So most immigrants are useless people.
And the fact that you chose to ignore the loss to their country of origin
indicates that you have no allegiance to your country of origin or
where the quality of life of others in the world is headed.
All the "immigrant" wants to do is barge into somebody else's country
which will offer him a higher quality of life.
Ask any Asia Indian or Russian.
> While I might agree that America is being flooded by immigrants in the
> last 50 years, and I personally believe that too many from certain
> countries are being allowed in....
Yes, too many British ex-spats are being allowed in.
They should be made to wait like the Filipinos have to.
news:[email protected]...
>
> As an American, ....
Real or Wannabe?
A real American has a U.S. Birth Certificate.
> Perhaps he never heard of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James
> Monroe, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, Samuel Adams (not the beer) Ben
> Franklin, or any of the other famous "immigrants" to the USA (all were
> born in England). The first 8 presidents were all foreigh born actually.
Another example of how the Brits try to steal the credit from real Americans.
Is this the kind of nonsense they teach you in the UK?
Slaves worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants (ask Dekka's Angel on British ex-spats)
American Native Indians worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants.
Real Americans who were born in the USA worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants.
Most immigrants these days are useless people trying to take the credit of
a small number of helpful immigrants and try to steal the credit
of non-immigrants.
> I am sure he is also unaware of other celebs such as: General John
> Shalikashvili, Admiral Hyman G. Rickover, Madeleine Albright, Henry
> Kissinger, Alexander Graham Bell, Bob Hope, Angela Landsbury, Gloria
> Estefan, Ann Margret, Sidney Poitier, Mikhail Baryshnikov, Malcom
> Forbes, Irving Berlin, Al Jolson, Frank Capra, Pamela Anderson,
> Edward Teller, Enrico Fermi, Albert Einstein, Andrew Carnegie, Thomas
> Mann, Charlie Chaplin, Joseph Pulitzer, Alfred Hitchcock, Louis B.
> Mayer, Samuel Goldwyn, Levi Strauss, Carlos Santana, Gene Simmons,
> Peter Jennings, Neil Diamond, Andre Agassi or many hundreds of others
> whose contributions have helped make America what it is today (for
> better or worse).
This is a very small number of people compared to the total number of
immigrants
who come here annualy.
So most immigrants are useless people.
And the fact that you chose to ignore the loss to their country of origin
indicates that you have no allegiance to your country of origin or
where the quality of life of others in the world is headed.
All the "immigrant" wants to do is barge into somebody else's country
which will offer him a higher quality of life.
Ask any Asia Indian or Russian.
> While I might agree that America is being flooded by immigrants in the
> last 50 years, and I personally believe that too many from certain
> countries are being allowed in....
Yes, too many British ex-spats are being allowed in.
They should be made to wait like the Filipinos have to.
Aug 17th 2003, 6:03 am
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Leaving the USA
Posted by [email protected] (wiley):
>The Dutch and English descendents are trying to leave SA due to crime
>and that wonderfull ability of the "natives" to drive a country to its
>knees, #1 in AIDS, #2 in rape,murder and proverty.
A more common theory is that the colonialists ruined the lives of the natives
in South Africa, and the repressed natives are now retaliating.
If the colonialists had intergrated the natives into the nation, things
would be different there now.
That country is beyond redemption in the foreseeable future.
>The Dutch and English descendents are trying to leave SA due to crime
>and that wonderfull ability of the "natives" to drive a country to its
>knees, #1 in AIDS, #2 in rape,murder and proverty.
A more common theory is that the colonialists ruined the lives of the natives
in South Africa, and the repressed natives are now retaliating.
If the colonialists had intergrated the natives into the nation, things
would be different there now.
That country is beyond redemption in the foreseeable future.
Aug 17th 2003, 8:56 am
#45
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,350
Re: Leaving the USA
Originally posted by Amer20034
Slaves worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants (ask Dekka's Angel on British ex-spats)
American Native Indians worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants.
Real Americans who were born in the USA worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants.
Slaves worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants (ask Dekka's Angel on British ex-spats)
American Native Indians worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants.
Real Americans who were born in the USA worked hard to build this country.
They are NOT immigrants.
I am TIRED of you using my name and my very-tailored argument to support your grossly-overreaching, hate-filled point. I explained my belief about why slaves are not immigrants, and why the label in our case does a disservice to our quite unique American experience. I stand by everything I said.
But that is NOT the same thing support for YOUR argument, or any other of the sick ones you've made since, about the distinction between "Americans" and Non. To the contrary, as I reiterated the ONE time I responded - we ALL built this country. Immigrants and non. Go back and read it, if you like.
This weak bullshit of yours about "Real Americans" being defined by a US-issued birth certificate finds no support in law *or* reason. It's just hate, from everything I've seen you post. And no matter what I personally think about any issue, hate is not what motivates me. And it turns my stomach to be associated with it.
So stop. If you don't know how to make an argument on your own fine. Stop making the argument. Especially if you wish to pull those of us who have made plain our disagreement with you and your viewpoint clear since the moment you opened that cesspool you call an American mouth.
Thank you.
