illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
Apr 26th 2006, 7:11 pm
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illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
non-resident tuition?
that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
non-resident tuition?
Apr 26th 2006, 7:19 pm
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Posts: 2
Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
Originally Posted by [email protected]
I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
non-resident tuition?
that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
non-resident tuition?
Yes (and also US Citizens who are not residents of those States)
Apr 26th 2006, 7:28 pm
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Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
[email protected] wrote:
> I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
> that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
> And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
> residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
> university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
>
> Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
> non-resident tuition?
>
its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition because they don't
have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
reasons and not to be full time students!
> I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
> that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
> And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
> residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
> university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
>
> Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
> non-resident tuition?
>
its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition because they don't
have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
reasons and not to be full time students!
Apr 26th 2006, 7:38 pm
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Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
Carlos wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
> > that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
> > And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
> > residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
> > university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
> >
> > Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
> > non-resident tuition?
> >
> its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
> work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition because they don't
> have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
> reasons and not to be full time students!
You haven't specified whether the statement was true or not.
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
> > that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
> > And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
> > residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
> > university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
> >
> > Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
> > non-resident tuition?
> >
> its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
> work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition because they don't
> have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
> reasons and not to be full time students!
You haven't specified whether the statement was true or not.
Apr 26th 2006, 8:14 pm
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Carlos wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
> > that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
> > And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
> > residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
> > university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
> >
> > Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
> > non-resident tuition?
> >
> its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
> work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition
H1 and the spouse do not pay out of state once they have been in the
state for 1 year.
>because they don't
> have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
> reasons and not to be full time students!
> [email protected] wrote:
> > I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
> > that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
> > And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
> > residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
> > university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
> >
> > Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
> > non-resident tuition?
> >
> its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
> work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition
H1 and the spouse do not pay out of state once they have been in the
state for 1 year.
>because they don't
> have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
> reasons and not to be full time students!
Apr 26th 2006, 8:24 pm
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Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
[email protected] wrote:
> I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
> that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
When someone says "illegal", do you wonder what do they mean by that?
As far as I know, the undocumented illegals can't go to college unless
they have fake socecial security number, etc. They can go to grade
schools and that's about it.
> And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
> residents?
>I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
> university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
Exactly.
> Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
> non-resident tuition?
No.
There are those who became illegal by getting out of status (of visit
visa or student visa) once in US but they have immediate family
members who are US citizens who have filed petition for residency for
them. These types of illegals will once day become US resident vis
family-based immigartion. In the mean time, should they just sit home
and do nothing instead of getting education and one day contribute to
the society? After all, their US citizen family members who is(are)
taking care of them is (are) contributing to the society while not
being able to claim them as dependent on tax filing.
The least the government can do is let these types of illegals get
education via resident rate. I think it is fair though there is this
element of getting out of status and staying illegals. But one has to
think about family reunification too. One hould consider the sacrifices
the family members who has become a USC made before becoming a US
citizen.
So nothing is clear cut like you are being told. One day, when you are
a USC, you'd probaby call your little sister or bother and keep her/him
illegally with you until she/he gets greencard.
> I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
> that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
When someone says "illegal", do you wonder what do they mean by that?
As far as I know, the undocumented illegals can't go to college unless
they have fake socecial security number, etc. They can go to grade
schools and that's about it.
> And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
> residents?
>I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
> university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
Exactly.
> Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
> non-resident tuition?
No.
There are those who became illegal by getting out of status (of visit
visa or student visa) once in US but they have immediate family
members who are US citizens who have filed petition for residency for
them. These types of illegals will once day become US resident vis
family-based immigartion. In the mean time, should they just sit home
and do nothing instead of getting education and one day contribute to
the society? After all, their US citizen family members who is(are)
taking care of them is (are) contributing to the society while not
being able to claim them as dependent on tax filing.
The least the government can do is let these types of illegals get
education via resident rate. I think it is fair though there is this
element of getting out of status and staying illegals. But one has to
think about family reunification too. One hould consider the sacrifices
the family members who has become a USC made before becoming a US
citizen.
So nothing is clear cut like you are being told. One day, when you are
a USC, you'd probaby call your little sister or bother and keep her/him
illegally with you until she/he gets greencard.
Apr 27th 2006, 12:06 am
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Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
Originally Posted by [email protected]
I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
non-resident tuition?
that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
non-resident tuition?
Each state has different rules. This is a matter of state and not Federal law.
As to unfairness, what about U.S. CITIZENS who have lived in other states, they also pay "non-resident" tuition. An "F-1" is also an "out-of-state" person.
Many of the "illegals" were brought in by their parents [e.g., they had no choice in the matter] and have lived here for a long time and have been educated in the US. They are often long-time "residents" of the state where they are going to school.
Apr 27th 2006, 5:11 am
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Carlos wrote on 04/26/06 12:28:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
>> that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
>> And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
>> residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
>> university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
>> Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
>> non-resident tuition?
>
> its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
> work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition because they don't
> have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
> reasons and not to be full time students!
Huh? That is state law, and at least in CA, people in a status that doesn't
prevent taking up residence, e.g., H1, H4, L1, L2, etc. are eligible for
in-state tuition at CA's public universities.
I suggest educating yourself before making a wrong general statement.
-Joe
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
>> that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
>> And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
>> residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
>> university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
>> Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
>> non-resident tuition?
>
> its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
> work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition because they don't
> have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
> reasons and not to be full time students!
Huh? That is state law, and at least in CA, people in a status that doesn't
prevent taking up residence, e.g., H1, H4, L1, L2, etc. are eligible for
in-state tuition at CA's public universities.
I suggest educating yourself before making a wrong general statement.
-Joe
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
Apr 27th 2006, 5:23 pm
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Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
amanda wrote:
> Carlos wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
>>> that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
>>> And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
>>> residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
>>> university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
>>> Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
>>> non-resident tuition?
>> its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
>> work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition
>
> H1 and the spouse do not pay out of state once they have been in the
> state for 1 year.
>
>
>
>> because they don't
>> have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
>> reasons and not to be full time students!
>
In KS they say the only way to pay in state tuition is to get a Green
Card. I have had several meetings with people at the registrars office
about this.
> Carlos wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
>>> that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
>>> And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
>>> residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
>>> university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
>>> Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
>>> non-resident tuition?
>> its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
>> work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition
>
> H1 and the spouse do not pay out of state once they have been in the
> state for 1 year.
>
>
>
>> because they don't
>> have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
>> reasons and not to be full time students!
>
In KS they say the only way to pay in state tuition is to get a Green
Card. I have had several meetings with people at the registrars office
about this.
Apr 27th 2006, 5:28 pm
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Joe Feise wrote:
> Carlos wrote on 04/26/06 12:28:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
>>> that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
>>> And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
>>> residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
>>> university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
>>> Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
>>> non-resident tuition?
>> its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
>> work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition because they don't
>> have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
>> reasons and not to be full time students!
>
>
> Huh? That is state law, and at least in CA, people in a status that doesn't
> prevent taking up residence, e.g., H1, H4, L1, L2, etc. are eligible for
> in-state tuition at CA's public universities.
> I suggest educating yourself before making a wrong general statement.
>
> -Joe
Please don't assume everyone lives in CA! or that every state follows
similar laws!
Maybe my mistake was not saying what state I live in but my statement
was correct for my state. I have heard KS has some really bad rules for
in-state tuition and even most Americans from out of state have to pay
out of state tuition for their whole college careers whereas in some
other states I have heard Americans can get in-state tuition after 1
year of living there.
> Carlos wrote on 04/26/06 12:28:
>
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> I heard on the radio, and want to know if this is true. is it true
>>> that illegal immigrants are paying resident tuition at universities?
>>> And how does admissions not check for documents proving they're
>>> residents? I know my admissions personnel did, when I applied to state
>>> university. As a result, I paid nonresident tuition.
>>> Isn't that unfair for people who have f-1 visa who are paying
>>> non-resident tuition?
>> its really unfair to the poor people that come to the US legally on a
>> work visa (h1b) and have to pay out of state tuition because they don't
>> have a green card! even though they came into that given state for work
>> reasons and not to be full time students!
>
>
> Huh? That is state law, and at least in CA, people in a status that doesn't
> prevent taking up residence, e.g., H1, H4, L1, L2, etc. are eligible for
> in-state tuition at CA's public universities.
> I suggest educating yourself before making a wrong general statement.
>
> -Joe
Please don't assume everyone lives in CA! or that every state follows
similar laws!
Maybe my mistake was not saying what state I live in but my statement
was correct for my state. I have heard KS has some really bad rules for
in-state tuition and even most Americans from out of state have to pay
out of state tuition for their whole college careers whereas in some
other states I have heard Americans can get in-state tuition after 1
year of living there.
Apr 27th 2006, 6:47 pm
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Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
Carlos wrote:
[..]
> In KS they say the only way to pay in state tuition is to get a Green
> Card. I have had several meetings with people at the registrars office
> about this.
You are going to get a hol of the state legislation and show them. This
is what happened with me:
About 2 weeks before the summer semester started, I ran into a Turkshh
student on F-1 I had met earlier in Spring semester. Learning the
course he registerd, I offered him to get some material forma friend
who took that course. So when he met me to get the stuff, we talked a
bit more and learned that he is getting instate tuition fees with the
receipt of GC application petitioned by spouse, suggesting me to go
talk to Int'l Student Adviser. When I responded that I wasn't at that
stage and only had I-130 approved status, he insisted that I go talk to
him. He was sure that he read something that would make me eligible.
So he dug up those copies and gave me but unfortunately it wasn't
complete and I didn't see anything pertinent to my case. (Note: I was
on F-1 and had a family-based petiiton aproved.)
So I went to Int'l Student office and inquired about it. The advisor
said that since I started on F-1, I must continue with the rate for F-1
instead of researching about the issue if she didn't know well. So, I
didn't say anything. I contacted a lawyer who answers one question ont
he phone and he said that it's upt to the school to implement that.
Then, during that summer of 2002, I learned from my twisn sister in CA
that when a friend of hers went to the Int'l Student Office of a 2 year
college about changing her status to F-1 (from B2), she was told that
she couldn't but could attend school with that approved petition filed
by immediate family. At that point, I didn't know whether such a person
would pay instate or out of state.
Then at the beginning of fall semester, I went to a neraby 2 year
colege to register for a course with a letter from my school. Just
casually, for my knowledge, I asked the lady there about those with
petition filed. I was assuming that it's only at 2 year colleges and
also didn't know that it was state dependent legislation. She told me
that it's for all schools including university. Since I didn't
specifically say CA or not, she was probably assume that I knew that
they have it for Texas too. At that point, I was just assuming that
it's all over US.
I specifically asked her for my case and she said I am supposed to get
it. She had that in this case, I need to go to the registra at her
shcool to register for a course and that her office won't handle mine.
In another word, I would be a domestic student. At that moment, the
Int'l Student Advisor, a very nice African-American man among all Int'l
Student Advisor I have seen, arrived and took me to the registrar. The
registrar acted reluctantly despite this man's assurance and so he
offered to send a link to the legislation to him and me both. (THERE I
READ ABOUT H1 TOO.)
That's how I learned that it was passed earlier year in Julky 2001.
Our Int'l Student Office didn't post such info and I only found out
accidentally.
So now, I went to the registrar's office of my school, not Int'l
Student office and was ready to challenge but when the assitant to the
Registrat came out and sawthe paper I was holing in my hand, she
immediately said "You can have instate tuition fee" and I responded
"Finally, someone competent".
Of course, I went to the Dean of Student and complained about that
Int'l Student Adviser kept the information from me even when I went to
her before summer. (I remembred the date because it was a Tuesday of
the week before the class starts; Also, they had a log book and I
signed the log book waiting to meet that advisor.) She transferred me
to another office and there, they first gave me the crap that it was
published on the Bulletin in Int'l Student Office and also was on news
letter pamphlet was sent to all F-1 student. I calmly said I want
acopy of that panphlet and they knew, they ccouldn't mess with me and
so she asked how many students are int he same situation as mine. How
was I supposed to know that and so I said "I don't know". And they
refunded my money for that summer only, not for the previuos 2 semester
before that.
With the state ligislation, the school must oblige. So if your state
has THAT LEGISLATION, you let the school know that you have that info,
your school cannot won't play games with you.
[..]
> In KS they say the only way to pay in state tuition is to get a Green
> Card. I have had several meetings with people at the registrars office
> about this.
You are going to get a hol of the state legislation and show them. This
is what happened with me:
About 2 weeks before the summer semester started, I ran into a Turkshh
student on F-1 I had met earlier in Spring semester. Learning the
course he registerd, I offered him to get some material forma friend
who took that course. So when he met me to get the stuff, we talked a
bit more and learned that he is getting instate tuition fees with the
receipt of GC application petitioned by spouse, suggesting me to go
talk to Int'l Student Adviser. When I responded that I wasn't at that
stage and only had I-130 approved status, he insisted that I go talk to
him. He was sure that he read something that would make me eligible.
So he dug up those copies and gave me but unfortunately it wasn't
complete and I didn't see anything pertinent to my case. (Note: I was
on F-1 and had a family-based petiiton aproved.)
So I went to Int'l Student office and inquired about it. The advisor
said that since I started on F-1, I must continue with the rate for F-1
instead of researching about the issue if she didn't know well. So, I
didn't say anything. I contacted a lawyer who answers one question ont
he phone and he said that it's upt to the school to implement that.
Then, during that summer of 2002, I learned from my twisn sister in CA
that when a friend of hers went to the Int'l Student Office of a 2 year
college about changing her status to F-1 (from B2), she was told that
she couldn't but could attend school with that approved petition filed
by immediate family. At that point, I didn't know whether such a person
would pay instate or out of state.
Then at the beginning of fall semester, I went to a neraby 2 year
colege to register for a course with a letter from my school. Just
casually, for my knowledge, I asked the lady there about those with
petition filed. I was assuming that it's only at 2 year colleges and
also didn't know that it was state dependent legislation. She told me
that it's for all schools including university. Since I didn't
specifically say CA or not, she was probably assume that I knew that
they have it for Texas too. At that point, I was just assuming that
it's all over US.
I specifically asked her for my case and she said I am supposed to get
it. She had that in this case, I need to go to the registra at her
shcool to register for a course and that her office won't handle mine.
In another word, I would be a domestic student. At that moment, the
Int'l Student Advisor, a very nice African-American man among all Int'l
Student Advisor I have seen, arrived and took me to the registrar. The
registrar acted reluctantly despite this man's assurance and so he
offered to send a link to the legislation to him and me both. (THERE I
READ ABOUT H1 TOO.)
That's how I learned that it was passed earlier year in Julky 2001.
Our Int'l Student Office didn't post such info and I only found out
accidentally.
So now, I went to the registrar's office of my school, not Int'l
Student office and was ready to challenge but when the assitant to the
Registrat came out and sawthe paper I was holing in my hand, she
immediately said "You can have instate tuition fee" and I responded
"Finally, someone competent".
Of course, I went to the Dean of Student and complained about that
Int'l Student Adviser kept the information from me even when I went to
her before summer. (I remembred the date because it was a Tuesday of
the week before the class starts; Also, they had a log book and I
signed the log book waiting to meet that advisor.) She transferred me
to another office and there, they first gave me the crap that it was
published on the Bulletin in Int'l Student Office and also was on news
letter pamphlet was sent to all F-1 student. I calmly said I want
acopy of that panphlet and they knew, they ccouldn't mess with me and
so she asked how many students are int he same situation as mine. How
was I supposed to know that and so I said "I don't know". And they
refunded my money for that summer only, not for the previuos 2 semester
before that.
With the state ligislation, the school must oblige. So if your state
has THAT LEGISLATION, you let the school know that you have that info,
your school cannot won't play games with you.
Apr 27th 2006, 7:08 pm
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Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
do you really think anyone will read this stupid blubber of yours?
"amanda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Carlos wrote:
> [..]
>> In KS they say the only way to pay in state tuition is to get a Green
>> Card. I have had several meetings with people at the registrars office
>> about this.
> You are going to get a hol of the state legislation and show them. This
> is what happened with me:
> About 2 weeks before the summer semester started, I ran into a Turkshh
> student on F-1 I had met earlier in Spring semester. Learning the
> course he registerd, I offered him to get some material forma friend
> who took that course. So when he met me to get the stuff, we talked a
> bit more and learned that he is getting instate tuition fees with the
> receipt of GC application petitioned by spouse, suggesting me to go
> talk to Int'l Student Adviser. When I responded that I wasn't at that
> stage and only had I-130 approved status, he insisted that I go talk to
> him. He was sure that he read something that would make me eligible.
> So he dug up those copies and gave me but unfortunately it wasn't
> complete and I didn't see anything pertinent to my case. (Note: I was
> on F-1 and had a family-based petiiton aproved.)
> So I went to Int'l Student office and inquired about it. The advisor
> said that since I started on F-1, I must continue with the rate for F-1
> instead of researching about the issue if she didn't know well. So, I
> didn't say anything. I contacted a lawyer who answers one question ont
> he phone and he said that it's upt to the school to implement that.
> Then, during that summer of 2002, I learned from my twisn sister in CA
> that when a friend of hers went to the Int'l Student Office of a 2 year
> college about changing her status to F-1 (from B2), she was told that
> she couldn't but could attend school with that approved petition filed
> by immediate family. At that point, I didn't know whether such a person
> would pay instate or out of state.
> Then at the beginning of fall semester, I went to a neraby 2 year
> colege to register for a course with a letter from my school. Just
> casually, for my knowledge, I asked the lady there about those with
> petition filed. I was assuming that it's only at 2 year colleges and
> also didn't know that it was state dependent legislation. She told me
> that it's for all schools including university. Since I didn't
> specifically say CA or not, she was probably assume that I knew that
> they have it for Texas too. At that point, I was just assuming that
> it's all over US.
> I specifically asked her for my case and she said I am supposed to get
> it. She had that in this case, I need to go to the registra at her
> shcool to register for a course and that her office won't handle mine.
> In another word, I would be a domestic student. At that moment, the
> Int'l Student Advisor, a very nice African-American man among all Int'l
> Student Advisor I have seen, arrived and took me to the registrar. The
> registrar acted reluctantly despite this man's assurance and so he
> offered to send a link to the legislation to him and me both. (THERE I
> READ ABOUT H1 TOO.)
> That's how I learned that it was passed earlier year in Julky 2001.
> Our Int'l Student Office didn't post such info and I only found out
> accidentally.
> So now, I went to the registrar's office of my school, not Int'l
> Student office and was ready to challenge but when the assitant to the
> Registrat came out and sawthe paper I was holing in my hand, she
> immediately said "You can have instate tuition fee" and I responded
> "Finally, someone competent".
> Of course, I went to the Dean of Student and complained about that
> Int'l Student Adviser kept the information from me even when I went to
> her before summer. (I remembred the date because it was a Tuesday of
> the week before the class starts; Also, they had a log book and I
> signed the log book waiting to meet that advisor.) She transferred me
> to another office and there, they first gave me the crap that it was
> published on the Bulletin in Int'l Student Office and also was on news
> letter pamphlet was sent to all F-1 student. I calmly said I want
> acopy of that panphlet and they knew, they ccouldn't mess with me and
> so she asked how many students are int he same situation as mine. How
> was I supposed to know that and so I said "I don't know". And they
> refunded my money for that summer only, not for the previuos 2 semester
> before that.
> With the state ligislation, the school must oblige. So if your state
> has THAT LEGISLATION, you let the school know that you have that info,
> your school cannot won't play games with you.
>
"amanda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> Carlos wrote:
> [..]
>> In KS they say the only way to pay in state tuition is to get a Green
>> Card. I have had several meetings with people at the registrars office
>> about this.
> You are going to get a hol of the state legislation and show them. This
> is what happened with me:
> About 2 weeks before the summer semester started, I ran into a Turkshh
> student on F-1 I had met earlier in Spring semester. Learning the
> course he registerd, I offered him to get some material forma friend
> who took that course. So when he met me to get the stuff, we talked a
> bit more and learned that he is getting instate tuition fees with the
> receipt of GC application petitioned by spouse, suggesting me to go
> talk to Int'l Student Adviser. When I responded that I wasn't at that
> stage and only had I-130 approved status, he insisted that I go talk to
> him. He was sure that he read something that would make me eligible.
> So he dug up those copies and gave me but unfortunately it wasn't
> complete and I didn't see anything pertinent to my case. (Note: I was
> on F-1 and had a family-based petiiton aproved.)
> So I went to Int'l Student office and inquired about it. The advisor
> said that since I started on F-1, I must continue with the rate for F-1
> instead of researching about the issue if she didn't know well. So, I
> didn't say anything. I contacted a lawyer who answers one question ont
> he phone and he said that it's upt to the school to implement that.
> Then, during that summer of 2002, I learned from my twisn sister in CA
> that when a friend of hers went to the Int'l Student Office of a 2 year
> college about changing her status to F-1 (from B2), she was told that
> she couldn't but could attend school with that approved petition filed
> by immediate family. At that point, I didn't know whether such a person
> would pay instate or out of state.
> Then at the beginning of fall semester, I went to a neraby 2 year
> colege to register for a course with a letter from my school. Just
> casually, for my knowledge, I asked the lady there about those with
> petition filed. I was assuming that it's only at 2 year colleges and
> also didn't know that it was state dependent legislation. She told me
> that it's for all schools including university. Since I didn't
> specifically say CA or not, she was probably assume that I knew that
> they have it for Texas too. At that point, I was just assuming that
> it's all over US.
> I specifically asked her for my case and she said I am supposed to get
> it. She had that in this case, I need to go to the registra at her
> shcool to register for a course and that her office won't handle mine.
> In another word, I would be a domestic student. At that moment, the
> Int'l Student Advisor, a very nice African-American man among all Int'l
> Student Advisor I have seen, arrived and took me to the registrar. The
> registrar acted reluctantly despite this man's assurance and so he
> offered to send a link to the legislation to him and me both. (THERE I
> READ ABOUT H1 TOO.)
> That's how I learned that it was passed earlier year in Julky 2001.
> Our Int'l Student Office didn't post such info and I only found out
> accidentally.
> So now, I went to the registrar's office of my school, not Int'l
> Student office and was ready to challenge but when the assitant to the
> Registrat came out and sawthe paper I was holing in my hand, she
> immediately said "You can have instate tuition fee" and I responded
> "Finally, someone competent".
> Of course, I went to the Dean of Student and complained about that
> Int'l Student Adviser kept the information from me even when I went to
> her before summer. (I remembred the date because it was a Tuesday of
> the week before the class starts; Also, they had a log book and I
> signed the log book waiting to meet that advisor.) She transferred me
> to another office and there, they first gave me the crap that it was
> published on the Bulletin in Int'l Student Office and also was on news
> letter pamphlet was sent to all F-1 student. I calmly said I want
> acopy of that panphlet and they knew, they ccouldn't mess with me and
> so she asked how many students are int he same situation as mine. How
> was I supposed to know that and so I said "I don't know". And they
> refunded my money for that summer only, not for the previuos 2 semester
> before that.
> With the state ligislation, the school must oblige. So if your state
> has THAT LEGISLATION, you let the school know that you have that info,
> your school cannot won't play games with you.
>
Apr 27th 2006, 7:36 pm
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
L Davies wrote:
> do you really think anyone will read this stupid blubber of yours?
This things you called stupid blah blah shows how one has to fight for
one's right because even among Int'l Student Advisor, there are
assholes like you.
> do you really think anyone will read this stupid blubber of yours?
This things you called stupid blah blah shows how one has to fight for
one's right because even among Int'l Student Advisor, there are
assholes like you.
Apr 27th 2006, 7:47 pm
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
finally, you are starting to realize entire depth of your stupidity and
retardation. I am glad for you.
"amanda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> L Davies wrote:
>> do you really think anyone will read this stupid blubber of yours?
> This things you called stupid blah blah shows how one has to fight for
> one's right because even among Int'l Student Advisor, there are
> assholes like you.
>
retardation. I am glad for you.
"amanda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] oups.com...
> L Davies wrote:
>> do you really think anyone will read this stupid blubber of yours?
> This things you called stupid blah blah shows how one has to fight for
> one's right because even among Int'l Student Advisor, there are
> assholes like you.
>
Apr 27th 2006, 7:56 pm
#15
Septicity
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 23,762
Re: illegal immigrant paying resident tuition?
Originally Posted by Amanda
L Davies wrote:
> do you really think anyone will read this stupid blubber of yours?
This things you called stupid blah blah shows how one has to fight for
one's right because even among Int'l Student Advisor, there are
assholes like you.
> do you really think anyone will read this stupid blubber of yours?
This things you called stupid blah blah shows how one has to fight for
one's right because even among Int'l Student Advisor, there are
assholes like you.