how long out of USA with green card.
Nov 30th 2006, 3:19 pm
#16
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
Originally Posted by Joe Feise
It is nowadays, since it is transmitted electronically.
You obviously have no clue about this stuff, troll.
You obviously have no clue about this stuff, troll.
I have never told United that I have a GC.....
Some databases are exchanging info somewhere.
By the way the self service booths have difficulty reading a GC so you end up having to check in with a human anyway.
Nov 30th 2006, 3:48 pm
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
happyjack wrote:
> Hi Everyone.
> Currently in the UK for the last 5 months helping to look after sick ole
> parents.
> When I was in Florida a visa guy told me that I could stay outside of
> USA for 12 months with no probs......someone else just told me it is
> only 6 months...in which case I had better get myself back fast.......so
> what is it.
> 12 months or 6 months any one help?
> Thankyou.
>
What's a "visa guy?"
> Hi Everyone.
> Currently in the UK for the last 5 months helping to look after sick ole
> parents.
> When I was in Florida a visa guy told me that I could stay outside of
> USA for 12 months with no probs......someone else just told me it is
> only 6 months...in which case I had better get myself back fast.......so
> what is it.
> 12 months or 6 months any one help?
> Thankyou.
>
What's a "visa guy?"
Nov 30th 2006, 3:51 pm
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
Art wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:04:02 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Art wrote on 11/29/06 21:56:
>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:19:44 +0000, happyjack
>>> <member58293@british_expats.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Everyone.
>>>> Currently in the UK for the last 5 months helping to look after sick ole
>>>> parents.
>>>> When I was in Florida a visa guy told me that I could stay outside of
>>>> USA for 12 months with no probs......someone else just told me it is
>>>> only 6 months...in which case I had better get myself back fast.......so
>>>> what is it.
>>>> 12 months or 6 months any one help?
>>>> Thankyou.
>>> See my post in the "green card in Guam" thread for practical advice on
>>> how it really works.
>> Except that this "practical advice" is flawed and outdated. Being a smart-ass
>> doesn't help...
>
> Being a self-righteous asshole, who is probably an immigrant himself,
> doesn't help those who want to keep their green cards, for whatever
> reason, without keeping to the letter of the law.
>
How do we know your information is correct? If any person in this
situation wants to "bend the law" then they have to be aware of the
consequences
> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:04:02 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Art wrote on 11/29/06 21:56:
>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:19:44 +0000, happyjack
>>> <member58293@british_expats.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Everyone.
>>>> Currently in the UK for the last 5 months helping to look after sick ole
>>>> parents.
>>>> When I was in Florida a visa guy told me that I could stay outside of
>>>> USA for 12 months with no probs......someone else just told me it is
>>>> only 6 months...in which case I had better get myself back fast.......so
>>>> what is it.
>>>> 12 months or 6 months any one help?
>>>> Thankyou.
>>> See my post in the "green card in Guam" thread for practical advice on
>>> how it really works.
>> Except that this "practical advice" is flawed and outdated. Being a smart-ass
>> doesn't help...
>
> Being a self-righteous asshole, who is probably an immigrant himself,
> doesn't help those who want to keep their green cards, for whatever
> reason, without keeping to the letter of the law.
>
How do we know your information is correct? If any person in this
situation wants to "bend the law" then they have to be aware of the
consequences
Nov 30th 2006, 9:27 pm
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
Originally Posted by L D Jones
happyjack wrote:
> Hi Everyone.
> Currently in the UK for the last 5 months helping to look after sick ole
> parents.
> When I was in Florida a visa guy told me that I could stay outside of
> USA for 12 months with no probs......someone else just told me it is
> only 6 months...in which case I had better get myself back fast.......so
> what is it.
> 12 months or 6 months any one help?
> Thankyou.
>
What's a "visa guy?"
> Hi Everyone.
> Currently in the UK for the last 5 months helping to look after sick ole
> parents.
> When I was in Florida a visa guy told me that I could stay outside of
> USA for 12 months with no probs......someone else just told me it is
> only 6 months...in which case I had better get myself back fast.......so
> what is it.
> 12 months or 6 months any one help?
> Thankyou.
>
What's a "visa guy?"
Nov 30th 2006, 9:46 pm
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
Art wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:59:59 +0000, happyjack
> <member58293@british_expats.com> wrote:
> >He has been out for more than 6 months before and told them 2 months and
> >they say welcome home !!!!!
> You can't rely on this being the case any more. Often you'll find
> that you're not asked how long you've been away...because they already
> know.
And sometimes you'll be asked even though they already know. If you
lie, there's a good chance you'll get into big trouble. It's never been
a good idea to lie to immigration authorities, and these days it's
increasingly likely that they'll know that you're telling lies Best to
assume they always know more than you'd like them to know.
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:59:59 +0000, happyjack
> <member58293@british_expats.com> wrote:
> >He has been out for more than 6 months before and told them 2 months and
> >they say welcome home !!!!!
> You can't rely on this being the case any more. Often you'll find
> that you're not asked how long you've been away...because they already
> know.
And sometimes you'll be asked even though they already know. If you
lie, there's a good chance you'll get into big trouble. It's never been
a good idea to lie to immigration authorities, and these days it's
increasingly likely that they'll know that you're telling lies Best to
assume they always know more than you'd like them to know.
Nov 30th 2006, 9:51 pm
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
Originally Posted by happyjack
just some idiot I know in Florida that puts himself out as a visa specialist.
Nope!!! that was a lawyer ...
Nov 30th 2006, 11:37 pm
#22
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
Originally Posted by happyjack
Hi and thanks for everyones reply.
OK, If it WAS just a matter of time...what would it be 6 or 12 months? as everything else concerning responsibilities in Florida are in order.,property,taxes,bank account, credit cards,etc
The situation is......based on the visa guys information I was going to stay in UK for Christmas and then head back to Florida,that would have put me just over 6 months in the UK,I have just spoken to a guy from UK who owns a property in Florida and also has a GC.....he tells me that he regulary exceeds 6 month absence from the USA,when he is asked[by immigration] at port of entry how long he has been out....he replies a couple of months SIR.....He says he has been doing this since 1992,he also says they[immigration] have no way of knowing how long someone has been out of USA,and that is why they ask......he says if they knew why would they ask.
He has been out for more than 6 months before and told them 2 months and they say welcome home !!!!!
getting more confused now.....this would be my 1st time in UK at Christmas for many years........I suppose I better go back.
OK, If it WAS just a matter of time...what would it be 6 or 12 months? as everything else concerning responsibilities in Florida are in order.,property,taxes,bank account, credit cards,etc
The situation is......based on the visa guys information I was going to stay in UK for Christmas and then head back to Florida,that would have put me just over 6 months in the UK,I have just spoken to a guy from UK who owns a property in Florida and also has a GC.....he tells me that he regulary exceeds 6 month absence from the USA,when he is asked[by immigration] at port of entry how long he has been out....he replies a couple of months SIR.....He says he has been doing this since 1992,he also says they[immigration] have no way of knowing how long someone has been out of USA,and that is why they ask......he says if they knew why would they ask.
He has been out for more than 6 months before and told them 2 months and they say welcome home !!!!!
getting more confused now.....this would be my 1st time in UK at Christmas for many years........I suppose I better go back.
I just told you, it is NOT just a matter of time. Also, there are various time breaks that affect eligiblity for CITIZENSHIP -- and those are different -- six months raises a rebuttable presumption of a break of continuity in residence, one year makes the presumption conclusive. Note that this is NOT a loss of residence -- but regarding BREAKS in residence. Also, an I-551 card is a valid reentry permit for return within one year after departure.
On the abandonment issue -- there is no set time.
BTW, on the "practical" advice -- the computer records are getting pretty good and also they can LOOK at the passport you present.
EACH case is unique.
Dec 1st 2006, 3:34 am
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:59:31 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>Art wrote on 11/30/06 03:40:
>>
>> Sometimes they do know and sometimes they don't. Arrival/departure
>> info forwarded by the airlines isn't always complete and even when it
>> is, it isn't always used to update the Immigration databases.
>It is nowadays, since it is transmitted electronically.
>You obviously have no clue about this stuff, troll.
The fact that it's transmitted electronically doesn't mean it's
accurate or complete, asshole. Nor does it mean that it's always
used to update the CIS database(s). You obviously have no clue about
"electronic transmissions".
>Art wrote on 11/30/06 03:40:
>>
>> Sometimes they do know and sometimes they don't. Arrival/departure
>> info forwarded by the airlines isn't always complete and even when it
>> is, it isn't always used to update the Immigration databases.
>It is nowadays, since it is transmitted electronically.
>You obviously have no clue about this stuff, troll.
The fact that it's transmitted electronically doesn't mean it's
accurate or complete, asshole. Nor does it mean that it's always
used to update the CIS database(s). You obviously have no clue about
"electronic transmissions".
Dec 1st 2006, 3:38 am
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:05:41 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>happyjack wrote on 11/30/06 01:59:
>>> Hi:
>>> These questions are quite fact specfic. It is NOT just a matter
>>> of time.
>>
>> Hi and thanks for everyones reply.
>>
>> OK, If it WAS just a matter of time...what would it be 6 or 12 months?
>> as everything else concerning responsibilities in Florida are in
>> order.,property,taxes,bank account, credit cards,etc
>You can temporarily be absent from the US for a maximum of one year. Note that
>all trips abroad have to be temporary in nature, with a clear ending date.
Theory, parroting the CIS website(s).
>> The situation is......based on the visa guys information I was going to
>> stay in UK for Christmas and then head back to Florida,that would have
>> put me just over 6 months in the UK,I have just spoken to a guy from UK
>> who owns a property in Florida and also has a GC.....he tells me that
>> he regulary exceeds 6 month absence from the USA,when he is asked[by
>> immigration] at port of entry how long he has been out....he replies a
>> couple of months SIR.....He says he has been doing this since 1992,he
>> also says they[immigration] have no way of knowing how long someone has
>> been out of USA,and that is why they ask......he says if they knew why
>> would they ask.
>Nowadays they know, because the airlines are required by law to transmit their
>passenger manifests to DHS. That is all done electronically, and in particular
>for arriving flights, DHS has it way before the flight lands.
If it's not done consistently for departing flights then the database
is incomplete.
>They even run that
>through their no-flight databases, and if somebody they don't want is on the
>flight, it gets diverted, which even makes the news (e.g., when former singer
>Cat Stevens was on board earlier this year.)
And how many cases of mistaken identity have there been?
>> He has been out for more than 6 months before and told them 2 months and
>> they say welcome home !!!!!
>That eventually *will* fail. After 9/11, a lot of things changed. In particular,
>they can now see on their terminals how long you've been out.
Sometimes.
>And lying about it
>is not a good thing to do...
As you say, you're not a lawyer. In fact, you're an asshole.
>happyjack wrote on 11/30/06 01:59:
>>> Hi:
>>> These questions are quite fact specfic. It is NOT just a matter
>>> of time.
>>
>> Hi and thanks for everyones reply.
>>
>> OK, If it WAS just a matter of time...what would it be 6 or 12 months?
>> as everything else concerning responsibilities in Florida are in
>> order.,property,taxes,bank account, credit cards,etc
>You can temporarily be absent from the US for a maximum of one year. Note that
>all trips abroad have to be temporary in nature, with a clear ending date.
Theory, parroting the CIS website(s).
>> The situation is......based on the visa guys information I was going to
>> stay in UK for Christmas and then head back to Florida,that would have
>> put me just over 6 months in the UK,I have just spoken to a guy from UK
>> who owns a property in Florida and also has a GC.....he tells me that
>> he regulary exceeds 6 month absence from the USA,when he is asked[by
>> immigration] at port of entry how long he has been out....he replies a
>> couple of months SIR.....He says he has been doing this since 1992,he
>> also says they[immigration] have no way of knowing how long someone has
>> been out of USA,and that is why they ask......he says if they knew why
>> would they ask.
>Nowadays they know, because the airlines are required by law to transmit their
>passenger manifests to DHS. That is all done electronically, and in particular
>for arriving flights, DHS has it way before the flight lands.
If it's not done consistently for departing flights then the database
is incomplete.
>They even run that
>through their no-flight databases, and if somebody they don't want is on the
>flight, it gets diverted, which even makes the news (e.g., when former singer
>Cat Stevens was on board earlier this year.)
And how many cases of mistaken identity have there been?
>> He has been out for more than 6 months before and told them 2 months and
>> they say welcome home !!!!!
>That eventually *will* fail. After 9/11, a lot of things changed. In particular,
>they can now see on their terminals how long you've been out.
Sometimes.
>And lying about it
>is not a good thing to do...
As you say, you're not a lawyer. In fact, you're an asshole.
Dec 1st 2006, 3:40 am
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:51:21 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Art wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:04:02 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Art wrote on 11/29/06 21:56:
>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:19:44 +0000, happyjack
>>>> <member58293@british_expats.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Everyone.
>>>>> Currently in the UK for the last 5 months helping to look after sick ole
>>>>> parents.
>>>>> When I was in Florida a visa guy told me that I could stay outside of
>>>>> USA for 12 months with no probs......someone else just told me it is
>>>>> only 6 months...in which case I had better get myself back fast.......so
>>>>> what is it.
>>>>> 12 months or 6 months any one help?
>>>>> Thankyou.
>>>> See my post in the "green card in Guam" thread for practical advice on
>>>> how it really works.
>>> Except that this "practical advice" is flawed and outdated. Being a smart-ass
>>> doesn't help...
>>
>> Being a self-righteous asshole, who is probably an immigrant himself,
>> doesn't help those who want to keep their green cards, for whatever
>> reason, without keeping to the letter of the law.
>>
>How do we know your information is correct?
You won't until you try it yourself, if you happen to be a
non-residing green card holder.
> If any person in this
>situation wants to "bend the law" then they have to be aware of the
>consequences
Of course.
wrote:
>Art wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:04:02 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Art wrote on 11/29/06 21:56:
>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:19:44 +0000, happyjack
>>>> <member58293@british_expats.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Everyone.
>>>>> Currently in the UK for the last 5 months helping to look after sick ole
>>>>> parents.
>>>>> When I was in Florida a visa guy told me that I could stay outside of
>>>>> USA for 12 months with no probs......someone else just told me it is
>>>>> only 6 months...in which case I had better get myself back fast.......so
>>>>> what is it.
>>>>> 12 months or 6 months any one help?
>>>>> Thankyou.
>>>> See my post in the "green card in Guam" thread for practical advice on
>>>> how it really works.
>>> Except that this "practical advice" is flawed and outdated. Being a smart-ass
>>> doesn't help...
>>
>> Being a self-righteous asshole, who is probably an immigrant himself,
>> doesn't help those who want to keep their green cards, for whatever
>> reason, without keeping to the letter of the law.
>>
>How do we know your information is correct?
You won't until you try it yourself, if you happen to be a
non-residing green card holder.
> If any person in this
>situation wants to "bend the law" then they have to be aware of the
>consequences
Of course.
Dec 1st 2006, 3:40 am
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
Artt wrote on 11/30/06 20:34:
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:59:31 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Art wrote on 11/30/06 03:40:
>>> Sometimes they do know and sometimes they don't. Arrival/departure
>>> info forwarded by the airlines isn't always complete and even when it
>>> is, it isn't always used to update the Immigration databases.
>> It is nowadays, since it is transmitted electronically.
>> You obviously have no clue about this stuff, troll.
>
> The fact that it's transmitted electronically doesn't mean it's
> accurate or complete, asshole. Nor does it mean that it's always
> used to update the CIS database(s). You obviously have no clue about
> "electronic transmissions".
ROTFLMAO
I write such stuff for a living...
Now back into the killfile, troll. Thought you were smart by changing your
sender name, eh? You are nothing more than an immature little kid who shouldn't
speak when adults converse.
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:59:31 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Art wrote on 11/30/06 03:40:
>>> Sometimes they do know and sometimes they don't. Arrival/departure
>>> info forwarded by the airlines isn't always complete and even when it
>>> is, it isn't always used to update the Immigration databases.
>> It is nowadays, since it is transmitted electronically.
>> You obviously have no clue about this stuff, troll.
>
> The fact that it's transmitted electronically doesn't mean it's
> accurate or complete, asshole. Nor does it mean that it's always
> used to update the CIS database(s). You obviously have no clue about
> "electronic transmissions".
ROTFLMAO
I write such stuff for a living...
Now back into the killfile, troll. Thought you were smart by changing your
sender name, eh? You are nothing more than an immature little kid who shouldn't
speak when adults converse.
Dec 1st 2006, 5:51 am
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:40:45 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>Artt wrote on 11/30/06 20:34:
>> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:59:31 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Art wrote on 11/30/06 03:40:
>>>> Sometimes they do know and sometimes they don't. Arrival/departure
>>>> info forwarded by the airlines isn't always complete and even when it
>>>> is, it isn't always used to update the Immigration databases.
>>> It is nowadays, since it is transmitted electronically.
>>> You obviously have no clue about this stuff, troll.
>>
>> The fact that it's transmitted electronically doesn't mean it's
>> accurate or complete, asshole. Nor does it mean that it's always
>> used to update the CIS database(s). You obviously have no clue about
>> "electronic transmissions".
>ROTFLMAO
>I write such stuff for a living...
Don't give up the day job, asshole.
>Now back into the killfile, troll. Thought you were smart by changing your
>sender name, eh? You are nothing more than an immature little kid who shouldn't
>speak when adults converse.
Go back to whatever Third World shithole you came from instead of
giving misleading information on an immigration group, asshole.
>Artt wrote on 11/30/06 20:34:
>> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:59:31 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Art wrote on 11/30/06 03:40:
>>>> Sometimes they do know and sometimes they don't. Arrival/departure
>>>> info forwarded by the airlines isn't always complete and even when it
>>>> is, it isn't always used to update the Immigration databases.
>>> It is nowadays, since it is transmitted electronically.
>>> You obviously have no clue about this stuff, troll.
>>
>> The fact that it's transmitted electronically doesn't mean it's
>> accurate or complete, asshole. Nor does it mean that it's always
>> used to update the CIS database(s). You obviously have no clue about
>> "electronic transmissions".
>ROTFLMAO
>I write such stuff for a living...
Don't give up the day job, asshole.
>Now back into the killfile, troll. Thought you were smart by changing your
>sender name, eh? You are nothing more than an immature little kid who shouldn't
>speak when adults converse.
Go back to whatever Third World shithole you came from instead of
giving misleading information on an immigration group, asshole.
Dec 1st 2006, 6:29 am
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
Ar wrote on 11/30/06 22:51:
[idiotic rambling snipped]
Still trying the juvenile changing of your from line to keep out of killfiles, I
see.
With every post of yours you only dig your hole deeper...
It is always funny to see a clueless troll throw a tantrum...
And this racist idiot isn't even in the US, yet claims to have intimate
knowledge of US immigration... 'nuff said...
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Still trying the juvenile changing of your from line to keep out of killfiles, I
see.
With every post of yours you only dig your hole deeper...
It is always funny to see a clueless troll throw a tantrum...
And this racist idiot isn't even in the US, yet claims to have intimate
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Dec 1st 2006, 7:09 am
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:29:49 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>Ar wrote on 11/30/06 22:51:
>[home truths snipped]
>Still trying the juvenile changing of your from line to keep out of killfiles, I
>see.
It obviously works, doesn't it?
>With every post of yours you only dig your hole deeper...
>It is always funny to see a clueless troll throw a tantrum...
It's even funnier watching a paranoid immigrant like you trying to
tell people about the realities of Immigration law.
>And this racist idiot isn't even in the US, yet claims to have intimate
>knowledge of US immigration... 'nuff said...
I'm a US citizen living overseas. Happy now, you paranoid Third
World immigrant asshole?
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>Ar wrote on 11/30/06 22:51:
>[home truths snipped]
>Still trying the juvenile changing of your from line to keep out of killfiles, I
>see.
It obviously works, doesn't it?
>With every post of yours you only dig your hole deeper...
>It is always funny to see a clueless troll throw a tantrum...
It's even funnier watching a paranoid immigrant like you trying to
tell people about the realities of Immigration law.
>And this racist idiot isn't even in the US, yet claims to have intimate
>knowledge of US immigration... 'nuff said...
I'm a US citizen living overseas. Happy now, you paranoid Third
World immigrant asshole?
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>address: High Wycombe
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Dec 1st 2006, 2:18 pm
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Re: how long out of USA with green card.
Artt wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:51:21 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Art wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:04:02 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Art wrote on 11/29/06 21:56:
>>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:19:44 +0000, happyjack
>>>>> <member58293@british_expats.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Everyone.
>>>>>> Currently in the UK for the last 5 months helping to look after sick ole
>>>>>> parents.
>>>>>> When I was in Florida a visa guy told me that I could stay outside of
>>>>>> USA for 12 months with no probs......someone else just told me it is
>>>>>> only 6 months...in which case I had better get myself back fast.......so
>>>>>> what is it.
>>>>>> 12 months or 6 months any one help?
>>>>>> Thankyou.
>>>>> See my post in the "green card in Guam" thread for practical advice on
>>>>> how it really works.
>>>> Except that this "practical advice" is flawed and outdated. Being a smart-ass
>>>> doesn't help...
>>> Being a self-righteous asshole, who is probably an immigrant himself,
>>> doesn't help those who want to keep their green cards, for whatever
>>> reason, without keeping to the letter of the law.
>> How do we know your information is correct?
>
> You won't until you try it yourself, if you happen to be a
> non-residing green card holder.
I don't have a greencard to lose so I'll never try it myself. I think
everyone who does have a greencard and lives outside the US should
continue to visit the US once and year and believe the myth. Tell the
POE you've been away 2 weeks. Such persons can't be concerned about
naturalizing since they could never meet the residence requirement
anyway and the computer systems are no good so they'll never be caught.
Having a greencard means one can live anywhere in the world. It always
works so why not keep doing it?
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:51:21 -0500, L D Jones <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Art wrote:
>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:04:02 -0800, Joe Feise <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Art wrote on 11/29/06 21:56:
>>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:19:44 +0000, happyjack
>>>>> <member58293@british_expats.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Everyone.
>>>>>> Currently in the UK for the last 5 months helping to look after sick ole
>>>>>> parents.
>>>>>> When I was in Florida a visa guy told me that I could stay outside of
>>>>>> USA for 12 months with no probs......someone else just told me it is
>>>>>> only 6 months...in which case I had better get myself back fast.......so
>>>>>> what is it.
>>>>>> 12 months or 6 months any one help?
>>>>>> Thankyou.
>>>>> See my post in the "green card in Guam" thread for practical advice on
>>>>> how it really works.
>>>> Except that this "practical advice" is flawed and outdated. Being a smart-ass
>>>> doesn't help...
>>> Being a self-righteous asshole, who is probably an immigrant himself,
>>> doesn't help those who want to keep their green cards, for whatever
>>> reason, without keeping to the letter of the law.
>> How do we know your information is correct?
>
> You won't until you try it yourself, if you happen to be a
> non-residing green card holder.
I don't have a greencard to lose so I'll never try it myself. I think
everyone who does have a greencard and lives outside the US should
continue to visit the US once and year and believe the myth. Tell the
POE you've been away 2 weeks. Such persons can't be concerned about
naturalizing since they could never meet the residence requirement
anyway and the computer systems are no good so they'll never be caught.
Having a greencard means one can live anywhere in the world. It always
works so why not keep doing it?