lairdside

I know what you mean, I have a friend in the Phillipines who has been waiting for eight years already. His brother originally filed a petition for him and his parents who are now USC's have since filed one also. Of course he is married so between that and the fact that the wait for people coming from PI is even more horrendously long than for other places.....

I'd need a crystal ball to know what was going to be the case for my brother and sister in the future so perhaps it wouldn't hurt to file for them once I Naturalize "just in case". I understand what you mean about the travel issues also, as far as I know POE is not aware of pending petitions, just adjudicated ones. They could of course still be asked and would have to show strong ties to be in with a chance of being admitted though I wondered if they applied for a non-immigrant visa this could also present a problem. Chances are they'd be applying for a H1-B or one of the EB categories though so would have either immigrant or dual intent.

It's a while aways yet and who knows what changes in immigration law will happen between now and then

Thankyou again.

lairdside

BVI is lovely... perhaps I could move to USVI and we could be neighbours The Carribean was my first choice of places to emmigrate to if I hadn't have met my husband.

I'd like my parents to be closeby if possible though, at least a day's driving time away, if they can finally be persuaded to move here. They don't really want to "escape" the UK and are quite happy at the moment - too darned happy- that's my problem.

My stepfather watched that TV programme " A place in the sun" avidly whilst it was on and I think they've considered many places as possible destinations. I think it's partly a case of not being unhappy enough where they are to be bothered to move..lol

Not a bad thing, I'm glad that they are happy... gives me somewhere to stay when I visit the UK too

I guess I have to wait until they start complaining about the damp aggrevating their rheumatism ....lol

Ingo Pakleppa

On Sun, 18 May 2003 16:53:22 +0000, lairdside wrote:


    > I know what you mean, I have a friend in the Phillipines who has been
    > waiting for eight years already. His brother originally filed a petition
    > for him and his parents who are now USC's have since filed one also. Of
    > course he is married so between that and the fact that the wait for
    > people coming from PI is even more horrendously long than for other
    > places.....

Philippines are a special case, and particularly bad. The wait for
brothers and sisters of US citizens there is currently near 25 years. BTW,
if his parents filed the petition before they were naturalized, and he got
married before his parents naturalized, his parents would need to file a
new petition.

    > I'd need a crystal ball to know what was going to be the case for my
    > brother and sister in the future so perhaps it wouldn't hurt to file for
    > them once I Naturalize "just in case". I understand what you mean about
    > the travel issues also, as far as I know POE is not aware of pending
    > petitions, just adjudicated ones.

That's not really true. The only way the POE routinely finds out about a
petition, pending or approved, is through the question on the visa waiver
form (or if they are using a visa, there is a corresponding question on
the visa application form).

The POE does have the ability to look up such things, but they don't
necessarily do for every single person. Especially in light of the
question existing on the visa waiver form.

    > They could of course still be asked and would have to show strong ties
    > to be in with a chance of being admitted though I wondered if they
    > applied for a non-immigrant visa this could also present a problem.
    > Chances are they'd be applying for a H1-B or one of the EB categories
    > though so would have either immigrant or dual intent.
    >
    > It's a while aways yet and who knows what changes in immigration law
    > will happen between now and then
    >
    > Thankyou again.
    >
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On Sun, 18 May 2003 17:48:14 +0000, lairdside wrote:


    > BVI is lovely... perhaps I could move to USVI and we could be neighbours
    > The Carribean was my first choice of places to emmigrate to if I
    > hadn't have met my husband.

It seems like your family is kind of like my own. Parents stay put, and
the children go off in all kinds of directions. I considered Australia and
Mexico before settling on the US, and my brother considered China, South
America and the US. He settled for marrying somebody from South America,
though.

    > I'd like my parents to be closeby if possible though, at least a day's
    > driving time away, if they can finally be persuaded to move here.

Think about it, they are only a day's travel away right now. Well, I don't
know where in the UK they are, nor where in the US you are, but my
experience of travel to Europe (mostly, Germany) is that no matter where
you are going, it takes around 24 hours. And right now, transatlantic
tickets aren't that much more expensive than a day's drive, either...

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No - his brother filed when he Naturalized and then his parents filed after they were Naturalized. He was already married before his brother Naturalized. So no change in circumstances


I've never seen a question of the I-94W asking about PENDING applications/petitions. I double checked and apparently these are the questions...unless they've changed this since last October?

Do any of the following apply to you? (Answer Yes or No)
A- Do you have a communicable disease; physical or mental
disorder; or are you a drug abuser or addict Yes No

B- Have you ever been arrested or convicted for an offence or crime involving moral turpitude or a violation related to a controlled substance; or been arrested or convicted for two or more offenses for which the aggregate sentence to confinement was five years or more; or been a controlled substance trafficker; or are you seeking entry to engage in criminal or' immoral activities? Yes No

C- Have you ever been or are you now involved in espionage or sabotage; or in terrorist activities; or genocide; or between 1933 and 1945 were you involved, in any way, in persecutions associated with Nazi Germany or its allies? Yes No

D- Are you seeking to work in the U.S.; or have you ever been excluded and deported; or been previously: removed from the United slates; or procured or attempted to procure a visa or entry into the U.S. by fraud or misrepresentation Yes No

E- Have you ever detained, retained or withheld custody of a child from a U.S. citizen granted custody of the child? Yes No

F- Have you ever been denied a U.S. visa or entry into the U.S. or had a U.S. visa canceled? If yes, Yes No when? where?

G- Have you ever asserted immunity from prosecution? Yes No

It doesn't even appear to ask about approved visas - just denied/cancelled ones. I think the visa applications are more through. I would have imagined that they could check but with the volume of traffic that they rarely do - unless they suspect something.

lairdside

My family live all over the world. Two of my grandparents came to the UK from former colonies last century so I have family in SE Asia and the Caribbean. Most of my maternal grandparents' siblings spent about 20 years in the UK and them emmigrated to Australia. Even my European family came from Mannin and what is now R.O.I. - with family on their side in Iceland and France we are a somewhat confusing bunch

My parents live in SE England - I live in NV so it's a day away but a long one. It's not the same though and I'd love to have them here. My husband has health problems so the trip isn't so easy for him to make, it's "doable" but requires a lot of prior planning.

I'm just thankful for e-mail and telephones

The joke in our family is that we can't stay put in any country for more than one generation... must be all that mariner's blood..lol

Ingo Pakleppa

On Sun, 18 May 2003 21:59:22 +0000, lairdside wrote:

    >
    > Originally posted by Ingo Pakleppa
    >> That's not really true. The only way the POE routinely finds
    >> out about a
    >> petition, pending or approved, is through the question on the
    >> visa waiver
    >> form (or if they are using a visa, there is a corresponding
    >> question on
    >> the visa application form)..
    >
    >
    > I've never seen a question of the I-94W asking about PENDING
    > applications/petitions. I double checked and apparently these are the
    > questions...unless they've changed this since last October?

To be honest, I rarely looked at the I-94W since I haven't been to the US
as a tourist in ten years... And the only Internet images of an I-94W that
I found and that show the reverse side are in Japanese and German,
unfortunately ;-) http://lapule.cside.ne.jp/toku/i-94w/ is the Japanese
version,
http://www.ganesha-sonderreisen.de/A...er_die_usa.htm is the German version.

But you are right, the questions don't include anything about a petition,
much to my surprise.

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On Sun, 18 May 2003 22:06:16 +0000, lairdside wrote:

    >
    > My family live all over the world. Two of my grandparents came to the UK
    > from former colonies last century so I have family in SE Asia and the
    > Caribbean. Most of my maternal grandparents' siblings spent about 20
    > years in the UK and them emmigrated to Australia. Even my European
    > family came from Mannin and what is now R.O.I. - with family on their
    > side in Iceland and France we are a somewhat confusing bunch

We are just spread between Poland, Russia, Austria, and what today is the
Czech Republic - although one of my cousins was born in Australia, and I
know of relatives in Britain, too. And some unknown place donated the
strange last name.

[snip]

    > The joke in our family is that we can't stay put in any country for more
    > than one generation... must be all that mariner's blood..lol

Funny thing - my great-grandfather met his wife in, of all places,
Hoboken, NJ - but they were from neighboring villages in Germany.

He *was* a mariner (as everybody else from that part of the country).
Unfortunately, they didn't stay long enough for me to inherit citizenship
    :-(

Three generations later, my first home in the USA was within walking
distance from Hoboken. It's a small world.

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I had to doublecheck to be sure, I've travelled on the VWP many times and honestly didn't remember seeing anything. You would think that they would have something and I can't see it being simply an oversight so presumably they opted not to ask that question as it would have been simple enough to do?

That way if someone lied and they didn't check but admitted them they'd have them fair and square with documentary evidence of fraud. If they told the truth they could check them out.

Makes you wonder what they are really up to

Btw I did look at your photos a while ago - I like the Least Bittern best

lairdside

Certainly is a small world. My maiden name doesn't give any clues if I didn't know as it's Adams - english sounding enough but actually it's the name of my Barbadian grandfather and is a "slave name" ... my Irish grandmother's maiden name was Shevlin so that's a give away and my Manx grandfather was Vondy... rare name except on Mannin - all the Vondys are pretty much related almost anywhere in the world I've been wondering if I should track down a few over here - in the Ellis Island records only two came through, one from Mannin and the other from Puerto Rico ???

My family in Singapore were shipping merchants and plantation owners so the family history there is pretty well documented. Trouble is that they were only there for one generation and before that lived in Rangoon.... it's difficult to get much out of the government there so I have to go on the family history that's been passed down.

Same with my paternal grandfather, his father was Barbadian but his mother was Polynesian Mauritian with an Irish mother (they get everywhere those darned Irish people). After that we sort of lose track...I've seen all the photos though back to great and great great grandparents.

Joachim Feise

lairdside wrote:
    > Originally posted by Ingo Pakleppa
    >>To be honest, I rarely looked at the I-94W since I haven't been
    >>to the US
    >>as a tourist in ten years... And the only Internet images of an
    >>I-94W that
    >>I found and that show the reverse side are in Japanese and German,
    >>unfortunately ;-) http://lapule.cside.ne.jp/toku/i-94w/"]http:/-
    >>/lapule.cside.ne.jp/toku/i-94w/[/url] is the Japanese
    >>version,
    >>http://www.ganesha-sonderreisen.de/A...ebestimmungen-
    >>_fuer_die_usa.htm"]http://www.ganesha-sonderreisen.de/Amerika/einreis-
    >>ebestimmungen_fuer_die_usa.htm[/url] is the German version.

http://k1.exit.com/forms6.html for the English version.

-Joe

Ingo Pakleppa

On Mon, 19 May 2003 00:22:00 +0000, lairdside wrote:

    > That way if someone lied and they didn't check but admitted them they'd
    > have them fair and square with documentary evidence of fraud. If they
    > told the truth they could check them out.
    >
    > Makes you wonder what they are really up to
    >
    > Btw I did look at your photos a while ago - I like the Least
    > Bittern best

Thanks! It's my favorite, too, especially since it is actually a rare bird
and I caught it in an absolutely perfect position (he actually got lost in
a construction site. Very unusual for a shy bird, or so I have been told
by my birdwatcher friends). Most bird watching books show it hidden in the
grass, where it usually lives, and barely recogizable.

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On Sun, 18 May 2003 19:13:30 -0700, Joachim Feise wrote:

    > lairdside wrote:
    >> Originally posted by Ingo Pakleppa
    >>>To be honest, I rarely looked at the I-94W since I haven't been
    >>>to the US
    >>>as a tourist in ten years... And the only Internet images of an
    >>>I-94W that
    >>>I found and that show the reverse side are in Japanese and German,
    >>>unfortunately ;-) http://lapule.cside.ne.jp/toku/i-94w/"]http:/-
    >>>/lapule.cside.ne.jp/toku/i-94w/[/url] is the Japanese
    >>>version,
    >>>http://www.ganesha-sonderreisen.de/A...ebestimmungen-
    >>>_fuer_die_usa.htm"]http://www.ganesha-sonderreisen.de/Amerika/einreis-
    >>>ebestimmungen_fuer_die_usa.htm[/url] is the German version.
    >
    > http://k1.exit.com/forms6.html for the English version.

Unfortunately, only the front...

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