Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
Oct 13th 2004, 12:29 pm
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
Amanda wrote on 10/13/2004 16:00:
> Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>Amanda wrote on 10/8/2004 16:09:
>>>In US, Computer Engineering, CS, CIS, SWEN (Software Engineering is
>>>Grad level only) are usually offered in Department Computer Science at
>>>school of Natural and Applied Science, not in School of Engineering.
>>Huh? Where do you get that from???
>>That may be true at the college you are at, but there are lots of
>>universities where CS is part of the engineering school.
>
>
> I said "usually".
Even that is wrong.
> I
>
>>It all depends on the university. Some universities have computer
>>science schools...
>>And why would SW Engineering be "grad level only"???
>
>
> As a major, it has to be.
Huh? At your college, maybe. Nothing prevents a university to offer
such a degree as an undergrad degree.
>>Or do you mean a degree in
>>SW Engineering? Again, that would be specific to a particular
>>university.
>
>
> Some University do offers ceritficate programs but F-1 student must be
> in degree seeking programs.
Now what does a certificate program have to do with my question?
SW Engineering degrees could conceivable be available for undergrads
as well. I had asked you for clarification about that, but you
apprently didn't quite get that.
>
>>Amanda, you really should not answer questions when you don't know
>>anything about it...
>
>
> You are the one who didn't understand what he *needed* to know as a
> potential F-1 student who wants to get TA,RA, etc. Yes, potential F-1
> student.
And what does your baloney about CS being part of a "School of Natural
and Applied Science" have to do with the original question???
You again show your cluelessness.
Get lost.
-Joe
> Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>Amanda wrote on 10/8/2004 16:09:
>>>In US, Computer Engineering, CS, CIS, SWEN (Software Engineering is
>>>Grad level only) are usually offered in Department Computer Science at
>>>school of Natural and Applied Science, not in School of Engineering.
>>Huh? Where do you get that from???
>>That may be true at the college you are at, but there are lots of
>>universities where CS is part of the engineering school.
>
>
> I said "usually".
Even that is wrong.
> I
>
>>It all depends on the university. Some universities have computer
>>science schools...
>>And why would SW Engineering be "grad level only"???
>
>
> As a major, it has to be.
Huh? At your college, maybe. Nothing prevents a university to offer
such a degree as an undergrad degree.
>>Or do you mean a degree in
>>SW Engineering? Again, that would be specific to a particular
>>university.
>
>
> Some University do offers ceritficate programs but F-1 student must be
> in degree seeking programs.
Now what does a certificate program have to do with my question?
SW Engineering degrees could conceivable be available for undergrads
as well. I had asked you for clarification about that, but you
apprently didn't quite get that.
>
>>Amanda, you really should not answer questions when you don't know
>>anything about it...
>
>
> You are the one who didn't understand what he *needed* to know as a
> potential F-1 student who wants to get TA,RA, etc. Yes, potential F-1
> student.
And what does your baloney about CS being part of a "School of Natural
and Applied Science" have to do with the original question???
You again show your cluelessness.
Get lost.
-Joe
Oct 14th 2004, 7:51 am
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
"Amanda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Amanda wrote on 10/8/2004 16:09:
> > >
> > > In US, Computer Engineering, CS, CIS, SWEN (Software Engineering is
> > > Grad level only) are usually offered in Department Computer Science at
> > > school of Natural and Applied Science, not in School of Engineering.
> >
> > Huh? Where do you get that from???
> > That may be true at the college you are at, but there are lots of
> > universities where CS is part of the engineering school.
> I said "usually".
> > It all depends on the university. Some universities have computer
> > science schools...
> > And why would SW Engineering be "grad level only"???
> As a major, it has to be.
> > Any good CS
> > curriculum has SW Engineering courses.
> I wasn't referring to courses; he knew what I was talking about unlike
> you.
> Commonly used major description:
> CS- Computer Science
> CIS -Computer Information System
> SWEN- Software Engineering
> > Or do you mean a degree in
> > SW Engineering? Again, that would be specific to a particular
> > university.
> Some University do offers ceritficate programs but F-1 student must be
> in degree seeking programs.
This happens not to be the case. There are many university certificate
programs which qualify for the issuance of I-20, and thus for their students
to hold F-1 status. The program must be a valid full-time academic program,
but need not lead to a degree.
See for example
http://www.uclaextension.edu/unex/de...0041014124805=.
UCLA has 40 certificate program which qualify for the issuance of Form I-20.
> > Amanda, you really should not answer questions when you don't know
> > anything about it...
> You are the one who didn't understand what he *needed* to know as a
> potential F-1 student who wants to get TA,RA, etc. Yes, potential F-1
> student.
> Why am I not surprised that you are clueless?
> > -Joe
> I guess, it took you a few days to do research so that you can come
> here and talk crap. You forgot that he needed to meet F-1 regulations
> requirements and also his aim to get financial support, didn't you?
news:[email protected] om...
> Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > Amanda wrote on 10/8/2004 16:09:
> > >
> > > In US, Computer Engineering, CS, CIS, SWEN (Software Engineering is
> > > Grad level only) are usually offered in Department Computer Science at
> > > school of Natural and Applied Science, not in School of Engineering.
> >
> > Huh? Where do you get that from???
> > That may be true at the college you are at, but there are lots of
> > universities where CS is part of the engineering school.
> I said "usually".
> > It all depends on the university. Some universities have computer
> > science schools...
> > And why would SW Engineering be "grad level only"???
> As a major, it has to be.
> > Any good CS
> > curriculum has SW Engineering courses.
> I wasn't referring to courses; he knew what I was talking about unlike
> you.
> Commonly used major description:
> CS- Computer Science
> CIS -Computer Information System
> SWEN- Software Engineering
> > Or do you mean a degree in
> > SW Engineering? Again, that would be specific to a particular
> > university.
> Some University do offers ceritficate programs but F-1 student must be
> in degree seeking programs.
This happens not to be the case. There are many university certificate
programs which qualify for the issuance of I-20, and thus for their students
to hold F-1 status. The program must be a valid full-time academic program,
but need not lead to a degree.
See for example
http://www.uclaextension.edu/unex/de...0041014124805=.
UCLA has 40 certificate program which qualify for the issuance of Form I-20.
> > Amanda, you really should not answer questions when you don't know
> > anything about it...
> You are the one who didn't understand what he *needed* to know as a
> potential F-1 student who wants to get TA,RA, etc. Yes, potential F-1
> student.
> Why am I not surprised that you are clueless?
> > -Joe
> I guess, it took you a few days to do research so that you can come
> here and talk crap. You forgot that he needed to meet F-1 regulations
> requirements and also his aim to get financial support, didn't you?
Oct 14th 2004, 1:15 pm
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Amanda wrote on 10/13/2004 16:07:
>
> > Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> >>>>This is immigration forum and I doubt that you will get much more info
> >>>>that this on financing your education. I do have some tips though.
> >>>>If you run out of, money half way through your study, you might
> >>>>finance it by using Credit Cards which graduate studnets can apply and
> >>>>get easily. A lot of students do that. As far as working off campus,
> >>>>who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job, say at a
> >>>>convenient store owned by a Indian. Some students do that in their
> >>>>first semester before they get TA or RA. etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>There are many Indian Student organizations and you might want to
> >>>>contact them.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Amanda,
> >>>
> >>>that's called ILLEGAL employment, and if it doesn't get him deported
> >>>(and it does happen) during his course of study, it may cost him his
> >>>future chances of getting permanent residence.
> >>
> >>Oh, I missed that. And this comes from a person who is against the DV lottery
> >>because of alleged fraud... geez.
> >>
> >>-Joe
> >
> >
> > I was merely stating what *A LOT* of Indian students do.
>
> No, you did *not* just state something. You suggested that as possibility.
I merely stated a psoobility that he will find out from his
colleagues. It is up to him what risk he wants to take.
> Read again what you wrote...
> You are the one who is clueless
Hahahahahahahahahahah. Why don't you talk about the other part and
not just dwell on this off campus working on F-1?
> and even dangerous, by suggesting
> something that puts other people in dnager.
> Get lost!
You should have done that yourself in the first place before coming
to me with your *useless* research result, forgetting that he's going
to be on F-1 and also wanted TA/RA.
>
> -Joe
> Amanda wrote on 10/13/2004 16:07:
>
> > Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> >>>>This is immigration forum and I doubt that you will get much more info
> >>>>that this on financing your education. I do have some tips though.
> >>>>If you run out of, money half way through your study, you might
> >>>>finance it by using Credit Cards which graduate studnets can apply and
> >>>>get easily. A lot of students do that. As far as working off campus,
> >>>>who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job, say at a
> >>>>convenient store owned by a Indian. Some students do that in their
> >>>>first semester before they get TA or RA. etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>There are many Indian Student organizations and you might want to
> >>>>contact them.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Amanda,
> >>>
> >>>that's called ILLEGAL employment, and if it doesn't get him deported
> >>>(and it does happen) during his course of study, it may cost him his
> >>>future chances of getting permanent residence.
> >>
> >>Oh, I missed that. And this comes from a person who is against the DV lottery
> >>because of alleged fraud... geez.
> >>
> >>-Joe
> >
> >
> > I was merely stating what *A LOT* of Indian students do.
>
> No, you did *not* just state something. You suggested that as possibility.
I merely stated a psoobility that he will find out from his
colleagues. It is up to him what risk he wants to take.
> Read again what you wrote...
> You are the one who is clueless
Hahahahahahahahahahah. Why don't you talk about the other part and
not just dwell on this off campus working on F-1?
> and even dangerous, by suggesting
> something that puts other people in dnager.
> Get lost!
You should have done that yourself in the first place before coming
to me with your *useless* research result, forgetting that he's going
to be on F-1 and also wanted TA/RA.
>
> -Joe
Oct 14th 2004, 1:18 pm
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[email protected] (r h) wrote in message news:<[email protected]. com>...
> what joe said.
> ce mostly falls under the auspices of ee, hence the college of eng.
>
> some coll./univ. may have ce separate from ee. some IT (NOT ce) stuff may also
> be placed under coll. of business.
I did say "usually" jsut to let him know that he should check in
School of Natural and Applied Science.
> what joe said.
> ce mostly falls under the auspices of ee, hence the college of eng.
>
> some coll./univ. may have ce separate from ee. some IT (NOT ce) stuff may also
> be placed under coll. of business.
I did say "usually" jsut to let him know that he should check in
School of Natural and Applied Science.
Oct 14th 2004, 1:30 pm
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Amanda wrote on 10/13/2004 16:00:
>
> > Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> >>Amanda wrote on 10/8/2004 16:09:
> >>
> >>>In US, Computer Engineering, CS, CIS, SWEN (Software Engineering is
> >>>Grad level only) are usually offered in Department Computer Science at
> >>>school of Natural and Applied Science, not in School of Engineering.
> >>
> >>Huh? Where do you get that from???
> >>That may be true at the college you are at, but there are lots of
> >>universities where CS is part of the engineering school.
> >
> >
> > I said "usually".
>
> Even that is wrong.
>
> > I
> >
> >>It all depends on the university. Some universities have computer
> >>science schools...
> >>And why would SW Engineering be "grad level only"???
> >
> >
> > As a major, it has to be.
>
> Huh? At your college, maybe. Nothing prevents a university to offer
> such a degree as an undergrad degree.
>
> >>Or do you mean a degree in
> >>SW Engineering? Again, that would be specific to a particular
> >>university.
> >
> >
> > Some University do offers ceritficate programs but F-1 student must be
> > in degree seeking programs.
>
> Now what does a certificate program have to do with my question?
> SW Engineering degrees could conceivable be available
> So now you are using the words *could conceivable be available*? Nice. if you know anyhting about the field, you wouldn't be talking so stupid.
> for undergrads
> as well. I had asked you for clarification about that, but you
> apprently didn't quite get that.
No point in wasting time on someone whose goal is not to understand
the nature of these programs, especially SWEN prgram but to argue,
using the word "conceivable".
> >
> >>Amanda, you really should not answer questions when you don't know
> >>anything about it...
> >
> >
> > You are the one who didn't understand what he *needed* to know as a
> > potential F-1 student who wants to get TA,RA, etc. Yes, potential F-1
> > student.
>
> And what does your baloney about CS being part of a "School of Natural
> and Applied Science" have to do with the original question???
I repeat again, CS is falls under Applied Science in most schools. SO
what you called *my baloney" has everything to do with original
question.
> You again show your cluelessness.
If it makes you feel better, feel free to think so.
> Get lost.
I am sure that you wish you had done that and avoided embarrasment
about your cluelessness.
>
> -Joe
> Amanda wrote on 10/13/2004 16:00:
>
> > Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> >>Amanda wrote on 10/8/2004 16:09:
> >>
> >>>In US, Computer Engineering, CS, CIS, SWEN (Software Engineering is
> >>>Grad level only) are usually offered in Department Computer Science at
> >>>school of Natural and Applied Science, not in School of Engineering.
> >>
> >>Huh? Where do you get that from???
> >>That may be true at the college you are at, but there are lots of
> >>universities where CS is part of the engineering school.
> >
> >
> > I said "usually".
>
> Even that is wrong.
>
> > I
> >
> >>It all depends on the university. Some universities have computer
> >>science schools...
> >>And why would SW Engineering be "grad level only"???
> >
> >
> > As a major, it has to be.
>
> Huh? At your college, maybe. Nothing prevents a university to offer
> such a degree as an undergrad degree.
>
> >>Or do you mean a degree in
> >>SW Engineering? Again, that would be specific to a particular
> >>university.
> >
> >
> > Some University do offers ceritficate programs but F-1 student must be
> > in degree seeking programs.
>
> Now what does a certificate program have to do with my question?
> SW Engineering degrees could conceivable be available
> So now you are using the words *could conceivable be available*? Nice. if you know anyhting about the field, you wouldn't be talking so stupid.
> for undergrads
> as well. I had asked you for clarification about that, but you
> apprently didn't quite get that.
No point in wasting time on someone whose goal is not to understand
the nature of these programs, especially SWEN prgram but to argue,
using the word "conceivable".
> >
> >>Amanda, you really should not answer questions when you don't know
> >>anything about it...
> >
> >
> > You are the one who didn't understand what he *needed* to know as a
> > potential F-1 student who wants to get TA,RA, etc. Yes, potential F-1
> > student.
>
> And what does your baloney about CS being part of a "School of Natural
> and Applied Science" have to do with the original question???
I repeat again, CS is falls under Applied Science in most schools. SO
what you called *my baloney" has everything to do with original
question.
> You again show your cluelessness.
If it makes you feel better, feel free to think so.
> Get lost.
I am sure that you wish you had done that and avoided embarrasment
about your cluelessness.
>
> -Joe
Oct 14th 2004, 6:34 pm
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Amanda wrote on 10/14/2004 18:15:
>>>I was merely stating what *A LOT* of Indian students do.
>>No, you did *not* just state something. You suggested that as possibility.
>
>
> I merely stated a psoobility that he will find out from his
> colleagues. It is up to him what risk he wants to take.
You are obviously not even able to read and understand your own words.
Let me quote it: "who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job"
That is suggesting it. Your try to weasel out of that is truly pathetic.
You are giving wrong and dangerous advice.
What is your agenda in doing so?
-Joe
>>>I was merely stating what *A LOT* of Indian students do.
>>No, you did *not* just state something. You suggested that as possibility.
>
>
> I merely stated a psoobility that he will find out from his
> colleagues. It is up to him what risk he wants to take.
You are obviously not even able to read and understand your own words.
Let me quote it: "who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job"
That is suggesting it. Your try to weasel out of that is truly pathetic.
You are giving wrong and dangerous advice.
What is your agenda in doing so?
-Joe
Oct 14th 2004, 6:41 pm
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Amanda wrote on 10/14/2004 18:30:
>
>> So now you are using the words *could conceivable be available*? Nice. if you know anyhting about the field, you wouldn't be talking so stupid.
I know more about that than you obviously ever will.
You make the same mistake that you have done with your dishonest stuff
about the DV lottery as well: you see something at your college and
think it has to be the same way everywhere else.
I am repeating myself here, but you should stop answering questions when
you don't know anything about the topic at hand.
> I repeat again, CS is falls under Applied Science in most schools. SO
> what you called *my baloney" has everything to do with original
> question.
In most schools, CS is part of the Engineering School. You are spreading
baloney. A lot of colleges don't even have an "Applied Science" school.
You got a lot to learn...
-Joe
>
>> So now you are using the words *could conceivable be available*? Nice. if you know anyhting about the field, you wouldn't be talking so stupid.
I know more about that than you obviously ever will.
You make the same mistake that you have done with your dishonest stuff
about the DV lottery as well: you see something at your college and
think it has to be the same way everywhere else.
I am repeating myself here, but you should stop answering questions when
you don't know anything about the topic at hand.
> I repeat again, CS is falls under Applied Science in most schools. SO
> what you called *my baloney" has everything to do with original
> question.
In most schools, CS is part of the Engineering School. You are spreading
baloney. A lot of colleges don't even have an "Applied Science" school.
You got a lot to learn...
-Joe
Oct 15th 2004, 2:28 am
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"Sylvia Ottemoeller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Amanda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] om...
>
> > Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>
> > > Amanda wrote on 10/8/2004 16:09:
> > > >
> > > > In US, Computer Engineering, CS, CIS, SWEN (Software Engineering is
> > > > Grad level only) are usually offered in Department Computer Science at
> > > > school of Natural and Applied Science, not in School of Engineering.
> > >
> > > Huh? Where do you get that from???
> > > That may be true at the college you are at, but there are lots of
> > > universities where CS is part of the engineering school.
>
> > I said "usually".
>
> > > It all depends on the university. Some universities have computer
> > > science schools...
> > > And why would SW Engineering be "grad level only"???
> >
> > As a major, it has to be.
> >
> > > Any good CS
> > > curriculum has SW Engineering courses.
> >
> > I wasn't referring to courses; he knew what I was talking about unlike
> > you.
> >
> > Commonly used major description:
> > CS- Computer Science
> > CIS -Computer Information System
> > SWEN- Software Engineering
> >
> > > Or do you mean a degree in
> > > SW Engineering? Again, that would be specific to a particular
> > > university.
> >
> > Some University do offers ceritficate programs but F-1 student must be
> > in degree seeking programs.
>
> This happens not to be the case. There are many university certificate
> programs which qualify for the issuance of I-20, and thus for their students
> to hold F-1 status. The program must be a valid full-time academic program,
> but need not lead to a degree.
Can an F-1 student in this kind of program apply for TA or RA, etc.?
>
> See for example
> http://www.uclaextension.edu/unex/de...0041014124805=.
> UCLA has 40 certificate program which qualify for the issuance of Form I-20.
>
> > > Amanda, you really should not answer questions when you don't know
> > > anything about it...
> >
> > You are the one who didn't understand what he *needed* to know as a
> > potential F-1 student who wants to get TA,RA, etc. Yes, potential F-1
> > student.
> > Why am I not surprised that you are clueless?
>
> > > -Joe
> > I guess, it took you a few days to do research so that you can come
> > here and talk crap. You forgot that he needed to meet F-1 regulations
> > requirements and also his aim to get financial support, didn't you?
> "Amanda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected] om...
>
> > Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>
> > > Amanda wrote on 10/8/2004 16:09:
> > > >
> > > > In US, Computer Engineering, CS, CIS, SWEN (Software Engineering is
> > > > Grad level only) are usually offered in Department Computer Science at
> > > > school of Natural and Applied Science, not in School of Engineering.
> > >
> > > Huh? Where do you get that from???
> > > That may be true at the college you are at, but there are lots of
> > > universities where CS is part of the engineering school.
>
> > I said "usually".
>
> > > It all depends on the university. Some universities have computer
> > > science schools...
> > > And why would SW Engineering be "grad level only"???
> >
> > As a major, it has to be.
> >
> > > Any good CS
> > > curriculum has SW Engineering courses.
> >
> > I wasn't referring to courses; he knew what I was talking about unlike
> > you.
> >
> > Commonly used major description:
> > CS- Computer Science
> > CIS -Computer Information System
> > SWEN- Software Engineering
> >
> > > Or do you mean a degree in
> > > SW Engineering? Again, that would be specific to a particular
> > > university.
> >
> > Some University do offers ceritficate programs but F-1 student must be
> > in degree seeking programs.
>
> This happens not to be the case. There are many university certificate
> programs which qualify for the issuance of I-20, and thus for their students
> to hold F-1 status. The program must be a valid full-time academic program,
> but need not lead to a degree.
Can an F-1 student in this kind of program apply for TA or RA, etc.?
>
> See for example
> http://www.uclaextension.edu/unex/de...0041014124805=.
> UCLA has 40 certificate program which qualify for the issuance of Form I-20.
>
> > > Amanda, you really should not answer questions when you don't know
> > > anything about it...
> >
> > You are the one who didn't understand what he *needed* to know as a
> > potential F-1 student who wants to get TA,RA, etc. Yes, potential F-1
> > student.
> > Why am I not surprised that you are clueless?
>
> > > -Joe
> > I guess, it took you a few days to do research so that you can come
> > here and talk crap. You forgot that he needed to meet F-1 regulations
> > requirements and also his aim to get financial support, didn't you?
Oct 15th 2004, 2:33 am
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Amanda wrote on 10/14/2004 18:30:
> >
> >> So now you are using the words *could conceivable be available*? Nice. if you know anyhting about the field, you wouldn't be talking so stupid.
>
> I know more about that than you obviously ever will.
> You make the same mistake that you have done with your dishonest stuff
> about the DV lottery as well:
What dishonest stuff? It was my opinion based on my knowledge.
Everyone is entitled their opinion. I didn't know that there are
Nazis (opinion Nazis) here in this group.
> you see something at your college and
> think it has to be the same way everywhere else.
No..I looked at a few universitites a while back and saw that it was
not strictly under Engineering schools.
>
> I am repeating myself here, but you should stop answering questions when
> you don't know anything about the topic at hand.
I told him what I think would be useful to him. He can combine all
info he gets and sort it out just like all of use do.
You got a lot to learn, don't you?
> > I repeat again, CS is falls under Applied Science in most schools. SO
> > what you called *my baloney" has everything to do with original
> > question.
>
> In most schools, CS is part of the Engineering School. You are spreading
> baloney. A lot of colleges don't even have an "Applied Science" school.
> You got a lot to learn...
>
> -Joe
> Amanda wrote on 10/14/2004 18:30:
> >
> >> So now you are using the words *could conceivable be available*? Nice. if you know anyhting about the field, you wouldn't be talking so stupid.
>
> I know more about that than you obviously ever will.
> You make the same mistake that you have done with your dishonest stuff
> about the DV lottery as well:
What dishonest stuff? It was my opinion based on my knowledge.
Everyone is entitled their opinion. I didn't know that there are
Nazis (opinion Nazis) here in this group.
> you see something at your college and
> think it has to be the same way everywhere else.
No..I looked at a few universitites a while back and saw that it was
not strictly under Engineering schools.
>
> I am repeating myself here, but you should stop answering questions when
> you don't know anything about the topic at hand.
I told him what I think would be useful to him. He can combine all
info he gets and sort it out just like all of use do.
You got a lot to learn, don't you?
> > I repeat again, CS is falls under Applied Science in most schools. SO
> > what you called *my baloney" has everything to do with original
> > question.
>
> In most schools, CS is part of the Engineering School. You are spreading
> baloney. A lot of colleges don't even have an "Applied Science" school.
> You got a lot to learn...
>
> -Joe
Oct 15th 2004, 2:38 am
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Amanda wrote on 10/14/2004 18:15:
> >>>
> >>>I was merely stating what *A LOT* of Indian students do.
> >>
> >>No, you did *not* just state something. You suggested that as possibility.
> >
> >
> > I merely stated a psoobility that he will find out from his
> > colleagues. It is up to him what risk he wants to take.
>
> You are obviously not even able to read and understand your own words.
> Let me quote it: "who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job"
You still don't understand. Do you think he will jump into the
river just because, liek you said, I suggest him to?
>
> That is suggesting it.
So? Is suggesting the same as forcing?
Your try to weasel out of that is truly pathetic.
Your picking on side issues is truly pathetic. The thread was about
his getting a F-1 visa to study in US and financing his education
until you turn it into a vandetta.
>
> You are giving wrong and dangerous advice.
> What is your agenda in doing so?
I didn't know that I had an agenda. What I do knwo t=is that peopel
judge others with their own standard. So you obviously have had an
agenda. Whatever it is, just keep it to yourself.
>
> -Joe
> Amanda wrote on 10/14/2004 18:15:
> >>>
> >>>I was merely stating what *A LOT* of Indian students do.
> >>
> >>No, you did *not* just state something. You suggested that as possibility.
> >
> >
> > I merely stated a psoobility that he will find out from his
> > colleagues. It is up to him what risk he wants to take.
>
> You are obviously not even able to read and understand your own words.
> Let me quote it: "who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job"
You still don't understand. Do you think he will jump into the
river just because, liek you said, I suggest him to?
>
> That is suggesting it.
So? Is suggesting the same as forcing?
Your try to weasel out of that is truly pathetic.
Your picking on side issues is truly pathetic. The thread was about
his getting a F-1 visa to study in US and financing his education
until you turn it into a vandetta.
>
> You are giving wrong and dangerous advice.
> What is your agenda in doing so?
I didn't know that I had an agenda. What I do knwo t=is that peopel
judge others with their own standard. So you obviously have had an
agenda. Whatever it is, just keep it to yourself.
>
> -Joe
Oct 15th 2004, 2:40 am
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
[email protected]ojunk (Hnchoksi) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >Subject: Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
> >From: Joachim Feise [email protected]
> >Date: 10/13/2004 2:57 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
> >
> >>>This is immigration forum and I doubt that you will get much more info
> >>>that this on financing your education. I do have some tips though.
> >>>If you run out of, money half way through your study, you might
> >>>finance it by using Credit Cards which graduate studnets can apply and
> >>>get easily. A lot of students do that. As far as working off campus,
> >>>who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job, say at a
> >>>convenient store owned by a Indian. Some students do that in their
> >>>first semester before they get TA or RA. etc.
> >>>
> >>>There are many Indian Student organizations and you might want to
> >>>contact them.
> >>
> >>
> >> Amanda,
> >>
> >> that's called ILLEGAL employment, and if it doesn't get him deported
> >> (and it does happen) during his course of study, it may cost him his
> >> future chances of getting permanent residence.
> >
> >Oh, I missed that. And this comes from a person who is against the DV lottery
> >because of alleged fraud... geez.
> >
> >-Joe
>
> Poor Amanda...ya gotta feel sorry for her...first advocating having a guy let
> himself get beat up by his wife, then advocating illegal employment... LOL!
Advocating? You also have great immagination. Only if you use *taht
gift* in the right place...
> >Subject: Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
> >From: Joachim Feise [email protected]
> >Date: 10/13/2004 2:57 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
> >
> >>>This is immigration forum and I doubt that you will get much more info
> >>>that this on financing your education. I do have some tips though.
> >>>If you run out of, money half way through your study, you might
> >>>finance it by using Credit Cards which graduate studnets can apply and
> >>>get easily. A lot of students do that. As far as working off campus,
> >>>who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job, say at a
> >>>convenient store owned by a Indian. Some students do that in their
> >>>first semester before they get TA or RA. etc.
> >>>
> >>>There are many Indian Student organizations and you might want to
> >>>contact them.
> >>
> >>
> >> Amanda,
> >>
> >> that's called ILLEGAL employment, and if it doesn't get him deported
> >> (and it does happen) during his course of study, it may cost him his
> >> future chances of getting permanent residence.
> >
> >Oh, I missed that. And this comes from a person who is against the DV lottery
> >because of alleged fraud... geez.
> >
> >-Joe
>
> Poor Amanda...ya gotta feel sorry for her...first advocating having a guy let
> himself get beat up by his wife, then advocating illegal employment... LOL!
Advocating? You also have great immagination. Only if you use *taht
gift* in the right place...
Oct 15th 2004, 3:01 am
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
Amanda wrote on 10/15/2004 7:33:
> Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>Amanda wrote on 10/14/2004 18:30:
>>>>So now you are using the words *could conceivable be available*? Nice. if you know anyhting about the field, you wouldn't be talking so stupid.
>>I know more about that than you obviously ever will.
>>You make the same mistake that you have done with your dishonest stuff
>>about the DV lottery as well:
>
>
> What dishonest stuff? It was my opinion based on my knowledge.
> Everyone is entitled their opinion. I didn't know that there are
> Nazis (opinion Nazis) here in this group.
No arguments anymore, huh?
I invoke Godwin's law (look it up if you don't know what it is.) You lost.
-Joe
> Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>Amanda wrote on 10/14/2004 18:30:
>>>>So now you are using the words *could conceivable be available*? Nice. if you know anyhting about the field, you wouldn't be talking so stupid.
>>I know more about that than you obviously ever will.
>>You make the same mistake that you have done with your dishonest stuff
>>about the DV lottery as well:
>
>
> What dishonest stuff? It was my opinion based on my knowledge.
> Everyone is entitled their opinion. I didn't know that there are
> Nazis (opinion Nazis) here in this group.
No arguments anymore, huh?
I invoke Godwin's law (look it up if you don't know what it is.) You lost.
-Joe
Oct 15th 2004, 3:55 am
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
Amanda wrote:
> Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>Amanda wrote on 10/14/2004 18:30:
Why don't you follow usenet practice and take the argument to email
> Joachim Feise <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>Amanda wrote on 10/14/2004 18:30:
Why don't you follow usenet practice and take the argument to email
Oct 15th 2004, 4:11 pm
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
>Subject: Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
>From: [email protected] (Amanda)
>Date: 10/15/2004 10:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected] >
>[email protected] (Hnchoksi) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>> >Subject: Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
>> >From: Joachim Feise [email protected]
>> >Date: 10/13/2004 2:57 PM Eastern Standard Time
>> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >>>This is immigration forum and I doubt that you will get much more info
>> >>>that this on financing your education. I do have some tips though.
>> >>>If you run out of, money half way through your study, you might
>> >>>finance it by using Credit Cards which graduate studnets can apply and
>> >>>get easily. A lot of students do that. As far as working off campus,
>> >>>who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job, say at a
>> >>>convenient store owned by a Indian. Some students do that in their
>> >>>first semester before they get TA or RA. etc.
>> >>>
>> >>>There are many Indian Student organizations and you might want to
>> >>>contact them.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Amanda,
>> >>
>> >> that's called ILLEGAL employment, and if it doesn't get him deported
>> >> (and it does happen) during his course of study, it may cost him his
>> >> future chances of getting permanent residence.
>> >
>> >Oh, I missed that. And this comes from a person who is against the DV
>lottery
>> >because of alleged fraud... geez.
>> >
>> >-Joe
>>
>> Poor Amanda...ya gotta feel sorry for her...first advocating having a guy
>let
>> himself get beat up by his wife, then advocating illegal employment... LOL!
>Advocating? You also have great immagination. Only if you use *taht
>gift* in the right place
You seem to stick your finger in every pie. Most of the time you are wrong. I
find it mind boggling that you have a penchant to reply to virtually every post
on the newsgroup and not know what you are even talking about...you have been
corrected by virtually every single person who gives correct advice on this
group. One would hope you would have gotten a clue by now...
>From: [email protected] (Amanda)
>Date: 10/15/2004 10:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <[email protected] >
>[email protected] (Hnchoksi) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>> >Subject: Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
>> >From: Joachim Feise [email protected]
>> >Date: 10/13/2004 2:57 PM Eastern Standard Time
>> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >>>This is immigration forum and I doubt that you will get much more info
>> >>>that this on financing your education. I do have some tips though.
>> >>>If you run out of, money half way through your study, you might
>> >>>finance it by using Credit Cards which graduate studnets can apply and
>> >>>get easily. A lot of students do that. As far as working off campus,
>> >>>who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job, say at a
>> >>>convenient store owned by a Indian. Some students do that in their
>> >>>first semester before they get TA or RA. etc.
>> >>>
>> >>>There are many Indian Student organizations and you might want to
>> >>>contact them.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Amanda,
>> >>
>> >> that's called ILLEGAL employment, and if it doesn't get him deported
>> >> (and it does happen) during his course of study, it may cost him his
>> >> future chances of getting permanent residence.
>> >
>> >Oh, I missed that. And this comes from a person who is against the DV
>lottery
>> >because of alleged fraud... geez.
>> >
>> >-Joe
>>
>> Poor Amanda...ya gotta feel sorry for her...first advocating having a guy
>let
>> himself get beat up by his wife, then advocating illegal employment... LOL!
>Advocating? You also have great immagination. Only if you use *taht
>gift* in the right place
You seem to stick your finger in every pie. Most of the time you are wrong. I
find it mind boggling that you have a penchant to reply to virtually every post
on the newsgroup and not know what you are even talking about...you have been
corrected by virtually every single person who gives correct advice on this
group. One would hope you would have gotten a clue by now...
Oct 18th 2004, 4:37 am
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Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
[email protected]ojunk (Hnchoksi) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >Subject: Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
> >From: [email protected] (Amanda)
> >Date: 10/15/2004 10:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <[email protected] >
> >
> >[email protected] (Hnchoksi) wrote in message
> >news:<[email protected]>...
> >> >Subject: Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
> >> >From: Joachim Feise [email protected]
> >> >Date: 10/13/2004 2:57 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
> >> >
> >> >>>This is immigration forum and I doubt that you will get much more info
> >> >>>that this on financing your education. I do have some tips though.
> >> >>>If you run out of, money half way through your study, you might
> >> >>>finance it by using Credit Cards which graduate studnets can apply and
> >> >>>get easily. A lot of students do that. As far as working off campus,
> >> >>>who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job, say at a
> >> >>>convenient store owned by a Indian. Some students do that in their
> >> >>>first semester before they get TA or RA. etc.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>There are many Indian Student organizations and you might want to
> >> >>>contact them.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Amanda,
> >> >>
> >> >> that's called ILLEGAL employment, and if it doesn't get him deported
> >> >> (and it does happen) during his course of study, it may cost him his
> >> >> future chances of getting permanent residence.
> >> >
> >> >Oh, I missed that. And this comes from a person who is against the DV
> lottery
> >> >because of alleged fraud... geez.
> >> >
> >> >-Joe
> >>
> >> Poor Amanda...ya gotta feel sorry for her...first advocating having a guy
> let
> >> himself get beat up by his wife, then advocating illegal employment... LOL!
> >
> >Advocating? You also have great immagination. Only if you use *taht
> >gift* in the right place
>
> You seem to stick your finger in every pie.
Prove it.
> Most of the time you are wrong.
Why don't you talk about the topic in thie thread?
> find it mind boggling that you have a penchant to reply to virtually every
Prove that I replied to *every* post.
> post
> on the newsgroup and not know what you are even talking about...you have been
> corrected by virtually every single person
Prove that *every* single perosn corrected me in every thing I said.
> who gives correct advice on this
> group. One would hope you would have gotten a clue by now...
One would hope that you and that guy would be mature enough not to
take things perosnally, acts so childishly.
Grow up.
> >Subject: Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
> >From: [email protected] (Amanda)
> >Date: 10/15/2004 10:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
> >Message-id: <[email protected] >
> >
> >[email protected] (Hnchoksi) wrote in message
> >news:<[email protected]>...
> >> >Subject: Re: Help:Is it really hard to get student VISA
> >> >From: Joachim Feise [email protected]
> >> >Date: 10/13/2004 2:57 PM Eastern Standard Time
> >> >Message-id: <[email protected]>
> >> >
> >> >>>This is immigration forum and I doubt that you will get much more info
> >> >>>that this on financing your education. I do have some tips though.
> >> >>>If you run out of, money half way through your study, you might
> >> >>>finance it by using Credit Cards which graduate studnets can apply and
> >> >>>get easily. A lot of students do that. As far as working off campus,
> >> >>>who is going to stop you if you get some part-time job, say at a
> >> >>>convenient store owned by a Indian. Some students do that in their
> >> >>>first semester before they get TA or RA. etc.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>There are many Indian Student organizations and you might want to
> >> >>>contact them.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Amanda,
> >> >>
> >> >> that's called ILLEGAL employment, and if it doesn't get him deported
> >> >> (and it does happen) during his course of study, it may cost him his
> >> >> future chances of getting permanent residence.
> >> >
> >> >Oh, I missed that. And this comes from a person who is against the DV
> lottery
> >> >because of alleged fraud... geez.
> >> >
> >> >-Joe
> >>
> >> Poor Amanda...ya gotta feel sorry for her...first advocating having a guy
> let
> >> himself get beat up by his wife, then advocating illegal employment... LOL!
> >
> >Advocating? You also have great immagination. Only if you use *taht
> >gift* in the right place
>
> You seem to stick your finger in every pie.
Prove it.
> Most of the time you are wrong.
Why don't you talk about the topic in thie thread?
> find it mind boggling that you have a penchant to reply to virtually every
Prove that I replied to *every* post.
> post
> on the newsgroup and not know what you are even talking about...you have been
> corrected by virtually every single person
Prove that *every* single perosn corrected me in every thing I said.
> who gives correct advice on this
> group. One would hope you would have gotten a clue by now...
One would hope that you and that guy would be mature enough not to
take things perosnally, acts so childishly.
Grow up.
