lil_devil_1973

I have read some of these posts and am very confused... I have seen a lot of references to
various visas and am not sure what I shuld do. Basically the story is this, I am hoping to
go to the states in a couple of months to visit my girlfriend (fiancee), I have been to
the US before to visit other people and only had to fill out a form on the plane. This
time, however, I am hoping to go to be with my fiance and would like to stay with her. To
cover some basics in order for you to help me more effectively I will tell you that I will
have around £50,000 saved in the bank when I go over, so I will have money to support me
for some time. Also, although my formal qualifivations are limited I do have a good
knowlege and experience in the IT field working with Hardware and software as well as
various other areas of work (waiter, assembler etc.). Also (to my shame) I was convicted
of Dangerous driving and of driving while under the influence about 5 years ago. (Other
than that I have a perfectly clean police record) What options are open to me and what are
my best chances of being able to stay with her in the long term? Is there a way that I
could go over in 2 months and be with her? Please help me... This is a genuine case and
any help would be truly appreciated... Thanks

Andy Platt

To stay with her in the long term you either need to:

a) Marry her.
b) Get sponsored for an H-1B. Your formal qualifications are likely to be the problem
here. You need the equivalent of a four year bachelors degree in a related field - 3
years of relevant work can be subsituted for each "missing" year.
c) Go to university (in the US)

Note that for (c) having a fiance(e) in the US could actually cause a rejection.

You will have to get police records: If the consulate decide you are inadmissable because
of them you will have to file for a waiver. Most driving offences are not classed like
this under US immigration law though so you may not have to worry.

Andy.

--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> I have read some of these posts and am very confused... I have seen a lot of references
> to various visas and am not sure what I shuld do. Basically the story is this, I am
> hoping to go to the states in a couple of months to visit my
girlfriend
> (fiancee), I have been to the US before to visit other people and only had to fill out
> a form on the plane. This time, however, I am hoping to go to be with my fiance and
> would like
to
> stay with her. To cover some basics in order for you to help me more effectively I will
> tell you that I will have around £50,000 saved in the bank when I go over, so I will
> have money to support me for some time. Also, although my
formal
> qualifivations are limited I do have a good knowlege and experience in the IT field
> working with Hardware and software as well as various other areas of work (waiter,
> assembler etc.). Also (to my shame) I was convicted of Dangerous driving and of driving
while
> under the influence about 5 years ago. (Other than that I have a
perfectly
> clean police record) What options are open to me and what are my best chances of being
> able to stay with her in the long term? Is there a way that I could go over in 2 months
> and be with her? Please help me... This is a genuine case and any help would be truly
> appreciated... Thanks
>

lil_devil_1973

ok so can I go over on VWP and get married? is there anyway of extending my stay for more
than 90 days???

> To stay with her in the long term you either need to:
>
> a) Marry her.
> b) Get sponsored for an H-1B. Your formal qualifications are likely to be the problem
> here. You need the equivalent of a four year bachelors degree
in
> a related field - 3 years of relevant work can be subsituted for each "missing" year.
> c) Go to university (in the US)
>
> Note that for (c) having a fiance(e) in the US could actually cause a rejection.
>
> You will have to get police records: If the consulate decide you are inadmissable
> because of them you will have to file for a waiver. Most driving offences are not
> classed like this under US immigration law though so you may not have to worry.
>
> Andy.
>
> --
> I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > I have read some of these posts and am very confused... I have seen a lot of
> > references to various visas and am not sure what I shuld do. Basically the story is
> > this, I am hoping to go to the states in a couple of months to visit my
> girlfriend
> > (fiancee), I have been to the US before to visit other people and only
had
> > to fill out a form on the plane. This time, however, I am hoping to go to be with my
> > fiance and would
like
> to
> > stay with her. To cover some basics in order for you to help me more effectively I
> > will tell you that I will have around £50,000 saved in the bank when I go
over,
> > so I will have money to support me for some time. Also, although my
> formal
> > qualifivations are limited I do have a good knowlege and experience in
the
> > IT field working with Hardware and software as well as various other
areas
> > of work (waiter, assembler etc.). Also (to my shame) I was convicted of Dangerous
> > driving and of driving
> while
> > under the influence about 5 years ago. (Other than that I have a
> perfectly
> > clean police record) What options are open to me and what are my best chances of
> > being able
to
> > stay with her in the long term? Is there a way that I could go over in 2 months and be
> > with her? Please help me... This is a genuine case and any help would be truly
> > appreciated... Thanks
> >
> >
> >

Andy Platt

If you get married you can file to adjust status (e.g. file for a greencard). Other than
that there is no way to extend the 90 days. Here's a discussion of doing exactly this:

http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/touristframes.html

Andy.

--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> ok so can I go over on VWP and get married? is there anyway of extending
my
> stay for more than 90 days???

> > To stay with her in the long term you either need to:
> >
> > a) Marry her.
> > b) Get sponsored for an H-1B. Your formal qualifications are likely to
be
> > the problem here. You need the equivalent of a four year bachelors
degree
> in
> > a related field - 3 years of relevant work can be subsituted for each "missing" year.
> > c) Go to university (in the US)
> >
> > Note that for (c) having a fiance(e) in the US could actually cause a rejection.
> >
> > You will have to get police records: If the consulate decide you are inadmissable
> > because of them you will have to file for a waiver. Most driving offences are not
> > classed like this under US immigration law
though
> > so you may not have to worry.
> >
> > Andy.
> >
> > --
> > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > > I have read some of these posts and am very confused... I have seen a lot of
> > > references to various visas and am not sure what
I
> > > shuld do. Basically the story is this, I am hoping to go to the states in a couple
> > > of months to visit my
> > girlfriend
> > > (fiancee), I have been to the US before to visit other people and only
> had
> > > to fill out a form on the plane. This time, however, I am hoping to go to be with my
> > > fiance and would
> like
> > to
> > > stay with her. To cover some basics in order for you to help me more effectively I
will
> > > tell you that I will have around £50,000 saved in the bank when I go
> over,
> > > so I will have money to support me for some time. Also, although my
> > formal
> > > qualifivations are limited I do have a good knowlege and experience in
> the
> > > IT field working with Hardware and software as well as various other
> areas
> > > of work (waiter, assembler etc.). Also (to my shame) I was convicted of Dangerous
> > > driving and of driving
> > while
> > > under the influence about 5 years ago. (Other than that I have a
> > perfectly
> > > clean police record) What options are open to me and what are my best chances of
> > > being able
> to
> > > stay with her in the long term? Is there a way that I could go over in 2 months and
> > > be with her? Please help me... This is a genuine case and any help would be truly
> > > appreciated... Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

lil_devil_1973

Damn that was very helpfull... THANK YOU One other thing... If once I am there we do
decide to get married... would I be allowed to come back to England for a week for my
Sister's wedding? or would that invalidate my claim or prevent me re-entering the states?

> If you get married you can file to adjust status (e.g. file for a greencard). Other than
> that there is no way to extend the 90 days. Here's
a
> discussion of doing exactly this:
>
> http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/touristframes.html
>
> Andy.
>
> --
> I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > ok so can I go over on VWP and get married? is there anyway of extending
> my
> > stay for more than 90 days???

> > > To stay with her in the long term you either need to:
> > >
> > > a) Marry her.
> > > b) Get sponsored for an H-1B. Your formal qualifications are likely to
> be
> > > the problem here. You need the equivalent of a four year bachelors
> degree
> > in
> > > a related field - 3 years of relevant work can be subsituted for each "missing"
> > > year.
> > > c) Go to university (in the US)
> > >
> > > Note that for (c) having a fiance(e) in the US could actually cause a rejection.
> > >
> > > You will have to get police records: If the consulate decide you are inadmissable
> > > because of them you will have to file for a waiver. Most driving offences are not
> > > classed like this under US immigration law
> though
> > > so you may not have to worry.
> > >
> > > Andy.
> > >
> > > --
> > > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > > > I have read some of these posts and am very confused... I have seen a lot of
> > > > references to various visas and am not sure
what
> I
> > > > shuld do. Basically the story is this, I am hoping to go to the states in a couple
> > > > of months to visit my
> > > girlfriend
> > > > (fiancee), I have been to the US before to visit other people and
only
> > had
> > > > to fill out a form on the plane. This time, however, I am hoping to go to be with
> > > > my fiance and would
> > like
> > > to
> > > > stay with her. To cover some basics in order for you to help me more effectively I
> will
> > > > tell you that I will have around £50,000 saved in the bank when I go
> > over,
> > > > so I will have money to support me for some time. Also, although my
> > > formal
> > > > qualifivations are limited I do have a good knowlege and experience
in
> > the
> > > > IT field working with Hardware and software as well as various other
> > areas
> > > > of work (waiter, assembler etc.). Also (to my shame) I was convicted of Dangerous
> > > > driving and of
driving
> > > while
> > > > under the influence about 5 years ago. (Other than that I have a
> > > perfectly
> > > > clean police record) What options are open to me and what are my best chances of
> > > > being
able
> > to
> > > > stay with her in the long term? Is there a way that I could go over in 2 months
> > > > and be with her? Please help me... This is a genuine case and any help would be
> > > > truly appreciated... Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Andy Platt

You would need to:

a) File to adjust status and
b) Get "advance parole" by filing an I-131 (either with the rest of the adjustment of
status paperwork or afterwards).

BTW, the method I gave you a pointer to isn't the only way (or even the "preferred" way)
of staying in the US based on marriage to a US citizen. In particular the fiance(e) visa
is designed explicitly for this purpose. It's described on Alvena's site (e.g. the same
site I pointed you at before).

Andy.

--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> Damn that was very helpfull... THANK YOU One other thing... If once I am there we do
> decide to get married... would I be allowed to
come
> back to England for a week for my Sister's wedding? or would that invalidate my claim or
> prevent me re-entering the states?

> > If you get married you can file to adjust status (e.g. file for a greencard). Other
> > than that there is no way to extend the 90 days.
Here's
> a
> > discussion of doing exactly this:
> >
> > http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/touristframes.html
> >
> > Andy.
> >
> > --
> > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > > ok so can I go over on VWP and get married? is there anyway of
extending
> > my
> > > stay for more than 90 days???

> > > > To stay with her in the long term you either need to:
> > > >
> > > > a) Marry her.
> > > > b) Get sponsored for an H-1B. Your formal qualifications are likely
to
> > be
> > > > the problem here. You need the equivalent of a four year bachelors
> > degree
> > > in
> > > > a related field - 3 years of relevant work can be subsituted for
each
> > > > "missing" year.
> > > > c) Go to university (in the US)
> > > >
> > > > Note that for (c) having a fiance(e) in the US could actually cause
a
> > > > rejection.
> > > >
> > > > You will have to get police records: If the consulate decide you are inadmissable
> > > > because of them you will have to file for a waiver.
Most
> > > > driving offences are not classed like this under US immigration law
> > though
> > > > so you may not have to worry.
> > > >
> > > > Andy.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > > > > I have read some of these posts and am very confused... I have seen a lot of
> > > > > references to various visas and am not sure
> what
> > I
> > > > > shuld do. Basically the story is this, I am hoping to go to the states in a
> > > > > couple of months to visit my
> > > > girlfriend
> > > > > (fiancee), I have been to the US before to visit other people and
> only
> > > had
> > > > > to fill out a form on the plane. This time, however, I am hoping to go to be
> > > > > with my fiance and
would
> > > like
> > > > to
> > > > > stay with her. To cover some basics in order for you to help me more effectively
I
> > will
> > > > > tell you that I will have around £50,000 saved in the bank when I
go
> > > over,
> > > > > so I will have money to support me for some time. Also, although
my
> > > > formal
> > > > > qualifivations are limited I do have a good knowlege and
experience
> in
> > > the
> > > > > IT field working with Hardware and software as well as various
other
> > > areas
> > > > > of work (waiter, assembler etc.). Also (to my shame) I was convicted of
> > > > > Dangerous driving and of
> driving
> > > > while
> > > > > under the influence about 5 years ago. (Other than that I have a
> > > > perfectly
> > > > > clean police record) What options are open to me and what are my best chances of
> > > > > being
> able
> > > to
> > > > > stay with her in the long term? Is there a way that I could go over in 2 months
> > > > > and be with her? Please help me... This is a genuine case and any help would be
truly
> > > > > appreciated... Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

lil_devil_1973

Well thank you once again... I had also looked at the exclusions that could relate to me
for immigration purposes and came across the following material.. I wonder if you could
give your opinion on it for me. I read the following faq.... I note that the exclusions
regarding criminla records would be relevant regardless of how I applied..... Most
frequently asked question: I entered the US on a tourist visa or a visa waiver, and I just
married a US citizen. Will I be allowed to stay in the U.S.?

Answer: Yes, in most simple uncomplicated situations you can file adjustment of status at
your local INS office, and you are allowed to stay in the US while the adjustment is
pending. However if you have complicating factors, such as HIV/AIDS or other serious
diseases, or if you have a criminal record, you should consult an attorney before taking
any actions.

I then went on to get the following information...

Crimes committed against governmental authority which would not constitute moral turpitude
for visa-issuance purposes are in general, violation of laws which are regulatory in
character and which do not involve the element of fraud or other evil intent do not
involve moral turpitude. The following list assumes that the statutes involved do not
require the showing of an intent to defraud or commit other evil:
(1) Blackmarket Violations;
(2) Breach of the peace;
(3) Carrying a concealed weapon;
(4) Desertion from the Armed Forces;
(5) Disorderly conduct;
(6) Drunk or reckless driving;
(7) Drunkenness;

That excerpt was taken from the following document
http://foia.state.gov/famdir/MasterD.../0940021aN.pdf

Does this mean that I would fall under the 'simple uncomplicated situation' ? as my
offences are for 1 over 5 years old and 2 explicitly explicity NOT concidered moral
turpitude. BTW you have been great in your patience and in your pointing me in the right
direction... I thank you so much

> You would need to:
>
> a) File to adjust status and
> b) Get "advance parole" by filing an I-131 (either with the rest of the adjustment of
> status paperwork or afterwards).
>
> BTW, the method I gave you a pointer to isn't the only way (or even the "preferred" way)
> of staying in the US based on marriage to a US citizen.
In
> particular the fiance(e) visa is designed explicitly for this purpose.
It's
> described on Alvena's site (e.g. the same site I pointed you at before).
>
> Andy.
>
> --
> I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > Damn that was very helpfull... THANK YOU One other thing... If once I am there we do
> > decide to get married... would I be allowed to
> come
> > back to England for a week for my Sister's wedding? or would that invalidate my claim
> > or prevent me re-entering the states?

> > > If you get married you can file to adjust status (e.g. file for a greencard). Other
> > > than that there is no way to extend the 90 days.
> Here's
> > a
> > > discussion of doing exactly this:
> > >
> > > http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/touristframes.html
> > >
> > > Andy.
> > >
> > > --
> > > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > > > ok so can I go over on VWP and get married? is there anyway of
> extending
> > > my
> > > > stay for more than 90 days???

> > > > > To stay with her in the long term you either need to:
> > > > >
> > > > > a) Marry her.
> > > > > b) Get sponsored for an H-1B. Your formal qualifications are
likely
> to
> > > be
> > > > > the problem here. You need the equivalent of a four year bachelors
> > > degree
> > > > in
> > > > > a related field - 3 years of relevant work can be subsituted for
> each
> > > > > "missing" year.
> > > > > c) Go to university (in the US)
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that for (c) having a fiance(e) in the US could actually
cause
> a
> > > > > rejection.
> > > > >
> > > > > You will have to get police records: If the consulate decide you
are
> > > > > inadmissable because of them you will have to file for a waiver.
> Most
> > > > > driving offences are not classed like this under US immigration
law
> > > though
> > > > > so you may not have to worry.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > > > > > I have read some of these posts and am very confused... I have seen a lot of
> > > > > > references to various visas and am not
sure
> > what
> > > I
> > > > > > shuld do. Basically the story is this, I am hoping to go to the states in a
> > > > > > couple of months to visit
my
> > > > > girlfriend
> > > > > > (fiancee), I have been to the US before to visit other people
and
> > only
> > > > had
> > > > > > to fill out a form on the plane. This time, however, I am hoping to go to be
> > > > > > with my fiance and
> would
> > > > like
> > > > > to
> > > > > > stay with her. To cover some basics in order for you to help me more
effectively
> I
> > > will
> > > > > > tell you that I will have around £50,000 saved in the bank when
I
> go
> > > > over,
> > > > > > so I will have money to support me for some time. Also,
although
> my
> > > > > formal
> > > > > > qualifivations are limited I do have a good knowlege and
> experience
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > IT field working with Hardware and software as well as various
> other
> > > > areas
> > > > > > of work (waiter, assembler etc.). Also (to my shame) I was convicted of
> > > > > > Dangerous driving and of
> > driving
> > > > > while
> > > > > > under the influence about 5 years ago. (Other than that I have
a
> > > > > perfectly
> > > > > > clean police record) What options are open to me and what are my best chances
> > > > > > of
being
> > able
> > > > to
> > > > > > stay with her in the long term? Is there a way that I could go over in 2
> > > > > > months and be with her? Please help me... This is a genuine case and any help
> > > > > > would be
> truly
> > > > > > appreciated... Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Andy Platt

I'm not a lawyer either but to my untrained eye you are absolutely correct. Note that even
if your AOS application was denied you could still apply for a waiver. As it says on
Alvena's site if you want more clarification you should consult an attorney (although then
you would already be across here).

Andy.

--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> Well thank you once again... I had also looked at the exclusions that could relate
> to me for
immigration
> purposes and came across the following material.. I wonder if you could
give
> your opinion on it for me. I read the following faq.... I note that the exclusions
> regarding criminla records would be relevant regardless of how I applied..... Most
> frequently asked question: I entered the US on a tourist visa or a
visa
> waiver, and I just married a US citizen. Will I be allowed to stay in the U.S.?
>
> Answer: Yes, in most simple uncomplicated situations you can file
adjustment
> of status at your local INS office, and you are allowed to stay in the US while the
> adjustment is pending. However if you have complicating factors, such as HIV/AIDS or
> other serious diseases, or if you have a criminal record, you should consult an attorney
> before taking any actions.
>
> I then went on to get the following information...
>
> Crimes committed against governmental authority which would not constitute moral
> turpitude for visa-issuance purposes are in general, violation of
laws
> which are regulatory in character and which do not involve the element of fraud or other
> evil intent do not involve moral turpitude. The following list assumes that the statutes
> involved do not require the showing of an intent to defraud or commit other evil:
> (1) Blackmarket Violations;
> (2) Breach of the peace;
> (3) Carrying a concealed weapon;
> (4) Desertion from the Armed Forces;
> (5) Disorderly conduct;
> (6) Drunk or reckless driving;
> (7) Drunkenness;
>
> That excerpt was taken from the following document
> http://foia.state.gov/famdir/MasterD.../0940021aN.pdf
>
> Does this mean that I would fall under the 'simple uncomplicated
situation'
> ? as my offences are for 1 over 5 years old and 2 explicitly explicity NOT concidered
> moral turpitude. BTW you have been great in your patience and in your pointing me in the
> right direction... I thank you so much

> > You would need to:
> >
> > a) File to adjust status and
> > b) Get "advance parole" by filing an I-131 (either with the rest of the adjustment of
> > status paperwork or afterwards).
> >
> > BTW, the method I gave you a pointer to isn't the only way (or even the "preferred"
> > way) of staying in the US based on marriage to a US citizen.
> In
> > particular the fiance(e) visa is designed explicitly for this purpose.
> It's
> > described on Alvena's site (e.g. the same site I pointed you at before).
> >
> > Andy.
> >
> > --
> > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > > Damn that was very helpfull... THANK YOU One other thing... If once I am there we do
> > > decide to get married... would I be allowed
to
> > come
> > > back to England for a week for my Sister's wedding? or would that invalidate my
> > > claim or prevent me re-entering the states?

> > > > If you get married you can file to adjust status (e.g. file for a greencard).
> > > > Other than that there is no way to extend the 90 days.
> > Here's
> > > a
> > > > discussion of doing exactly this:
> > > >
> > > > http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/touristframes.html
> > > >
> > > > Andy.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > > > > ok so can I go over on VWP and get married? is there anyway of
> > extending
> > > > my
> > > > > stay for more than 90 days???

> > > > > > To stay with her in the long term you either need to:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a) Marry her.
> > > > > > b) Get sponsored for an H-1B. Your formal qualifications are
> likely
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > > the problem here. You need the equivalent of a four year
bachelors
> > > > degree
> > > > > in
> > > > > > a related field - 3 years of relevant work can be subsituted for
> > each
> > > > > > "missing" year.
> > > > > > c) Go to university (in the US)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note that for (c) having a fiance(e) in the US could actually
> cause
> > a
> > > > > > rejection.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You will have to get police records: If the consulate decide you
> are
> > > > > > inadmissable because of them you will have to file for a waiver.
> > Most
> > > > > > driving offences are not classed like this under US immigration
> law
> > > > though
> > > > > > so you may not have to worry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> > > > > > > I have read some of these posts and am very confused... I have seen a lot of
> > > > > > > references to various visas and am not
> sure
> > > what
> > > > I
> > > > > > > shuld do. Basically the story is this, I am hoping to go to the states in a
> > > > > > > couple of months to visit
> my
> > > > > > girlfriend
> > > > > > > (fiancee), I have been to the US before to visit other people
> and
> > > only
> > > > > had
> > > > > > > to fill out a form on the plane. This time, however, I am hoping to go to be
> > > > > > > with my fiance and
> > would
> > > > > like
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > stay with her. To cover some basics in order for you to help me more
> effectively
> > I
> > > > will
> > > > > > > tell you that I will have around £50,000 saved in the bank
when
> I
> > go
> > > > > over,
> > > > > > > so I will have money to support me for some time. Also,
> although
> > my
> > > > > > formal
> > > > > > > qualifivations are limited I do have a good knowlege and
> > experience
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > IT field working with Hardware and software as well as various
> > other
> > > > > areas
> > > > > > > of work (waiter, assembler etc.). Also (to my shame) I was convicted of
> > > > > > > Dangerous driving and of
> > > driving
> > > > > > while
> > > > > > > under the influence about 5 years ago. (Other than that I
have
> a
> > > > > > perfectly
> > > > > > > clean police record) What options are open to me and what are my best
> > > > > > > chances of
> being
> > > able
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > stay with her in the long term? Is there a way that I could go over in 2
> > > > > > > months and be with
her?
> > > > > > > Please help me... This is a genuine case and any help would be
> > truly
> > > > > > > appreciated... Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Grinch

>Well thank you once again... I had also looked at the exclusions that could relate to me
>for immigration purposes and came across the following material.. I wonder if you could
>give your opinion on it for me. I read the following faq.... I note that the exclusions
>regarding criminla records would be relevant regardless of how I applied..... Most
>frequently asked question: I entered the US on a tourist visa or a visa waiver, and I
>just married a US citizen. Will I be allowed to stay in the U.S.?

>Does this mean that I would fall under the 'simple uncomplicated situation' ? as my
>offences are for 1 over 5 years old and 2 explicitly explicity NOT concidered moral
>turpitude. BTW you have been great in your patience and in your pointing me in the right
>direction... I thank you so much

I would think long and hard before filing for AOS from a tourist visa with any criminal
record. Moral Turpentine or not. If you decide to, I would recomend an Attorneys advice.

Grinch

Randy & Laura

Moral turpentine? Must be a new term. (chuckle) Randy

Grinch wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:25:12 -0000, "lil_devil_1973"

>
> >Well thank you once again... I had also looked at the exclusions that could relate to
> >me for immigration purposes and came across the following material.. I wonder if you
> >could give your opinion on it for me. I read the following faq.... I note that the
> >exclusions regarding criminla records would be relevant regardless of how I
> >applied..... Most frequently asked question: I entered the US on a tourist visa or a
> >visa waiver, and I just married a US citizen. Will I be allowed to stay in the U.S.?
>
> >Does this mean that I would fall under the 'simple uncomplicated situation' ? as my
> >offences are for 1 over 5 years old and 2 explicitly explicity NOT concidered moral
> >turpitude. BTW you have been great in your patience and in your pointing me in the
> >right direction... I thank you so much
>
> I would think long and hard before filing for AOS from a tourist visa with any criminal
> record. Moral Turpentine or not. If you decide to, I would recomend an Attorneys advice.
>
> Grinch

Grinch

| Moral turpentine? Must be a new term. (chuckle) Randy

Oops of course I meant serpentine

Grinch

mjones

..
>| Moral turpentine? Must be a new term. (chuckle) Randy

>Oops of course I meant serpentine Grinch

Of course. Good save. Mike

Andy Platt

I think the Grinch must have been thinking of a very bad pun (in a thread full of bad
puns) I made a few months ago:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=mo...s.marriage-bas
ed&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rnum=1&seld=976665671&ic=1

Andy.

--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.

> Moral turpentine? Must be a new term. (chuckle) Randy
>
> Grinch wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:25:12 -0000, "lil_devil_1973"

> >
> > >Well thank you once again... I had also looked at the exclusions that could relate to
> > >me for
immigration
> > >purposes and came across the following material.. I wonder if you could
give
> > >your opinion on it for me. I read the following faq.... I note that the exclusions
> > >regarding
criminla
> > >records would be relevant regardless of how I applied..... Most frequently asked
> > >question: I entered the US on a tourist visa or a
visa
> > >waiver, and I just married a US citizen. Will I be allowed to stay in
the
> > >U.S.?
> >
> > >Does this mean that I would fall under the 'simple uncomplicated
situation'
> > >? as my offences are for 1 over 5 years old and 2 explicitly explicity
NOT
> > >concidered moral turpitude. BTW you have been great in your patience and in your
> > >pointing me in the right direction... I thank you so much
> >
> > I would think long and hard before filing for AOS from a tourist visa with any
> > criminal record. Moral Turpentine or not. If you decide to, I would recomend an
> > Attorneys advice.
> >
> > Grinch

Grinch

>I think the Grinch must have been thinking of a very bad pun (in a thread full of bad
>puns) I made a few months ago:

I was!!

Grinch

Randy & Laura

Gotta like that "alien" humor.

Grinch wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:24:38 -0500, "Andy Platt"

>
> >I think the Grinch must have been thinking of a very bad pun (in a thread full of bad
> >puns) I made a few months ago:
>
> I was!!
>
> Grinch