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HELP - Job Offer in US
I have recently been offered a job in Palm Beach Florida. I am currently a 18 year old student living in the UK and honestly don't know where to start... I have a full UK driving license but is this even valid ? Where do I start with green card application etc ? Do I fill it in or my employer? What is the deal with medical care and insurance ? How do I get my money over there ( what banks ) and how long does this whole application take? Can I become a temporary employee and then whilst in US move to permanent? Basically I have no idea and just need clarity and advice on everything. Housing is sorted but thats about it. All help welcome.
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Re: HELP - Job Offer in US
What kind of job is it? Has the employer said which visa they're going to get for you? Do they even know themselves?
Don't take this the wrong way, but this "job offer" is unlikely to mean very much. At your age and experience, the chances of securing a job and moving to the USA are pretty slim to non existent. |
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The position is aviation related and obviously for reasons I can't go into too much detail. They are looking into visas. They are serious about this position and getting me over there due to my experience and skills / qualities I have.
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Re: HELP - Job Offer in US
Hi and welcome.
First things first--what sort of visa are they offering you? Anyone and their cousin can get a "job offer" but you will need a visa to legally work here. You do not apply for the visa--the employer applies on your behalf and you must fall into a very specific set of conditions, conditions which are rather difficult for most 18-year-olds to meet I'm afraid to say (but not impossible). If you can tell us what visa you will get (or what visa they are thinking of using) we can then help you on the next steps on how to get started and settled and whatnot, but absent some clear guidance on the visa it's very difficult for us to get into the details accurately and efficiently. Good luck. UPDATE: Just saw your post--please let us know when they find out. Are you in the aircraft engineering, maintenance or operational aspects (or a pilot)? There are H1 visas for aviation personnel but they require a 4-year university degree or nearly a decade of experience. |
Re: HELP - Job Offer in US
Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650705)
The position is aviation related and obviously for reasons I can't go into too much detail. They are looking into visas. They are serious about this position and getting me over there due to my experience and skills / qualities I have.
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It is up to the employer to file a petition for your work visa. There is nothing for you to do at this point except find out which visa it will be.
Once they have filed a petition and committed to your visa, then you can start thinking about all your other questions. If they come back to you and say "we will hire you if you sort out your own visa", then it's a dead-end for you, as there's no way to get a work visa on your own. Rene |
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So the employer has not yet stated what type of visa I would have. The position however would be permanent. It is a start up company with a lot of potential and secure partners.
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Re: HELP - Job Offer in US
Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650711)
So the employer has not yet stated what type of visa I would have. The position however would be permanent. It is a start up company with a lot of potential and secure partners.
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Any idea on what type of work visa they need to file if they are looking at hiring me full time on a permanent position?
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Just curious how your housing is already sorted?
Rene |
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Employer is sorting accommodation and living costs until I fully get on my feet in USA. ( They have several properties )
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How come ?
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Re: HELP - Job Offer in US
Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650713)
Any idea on what type of work visa they need to file if they are looking at hiring me full time on a permanent position?
Not an L visa because it's not an intercompany transfer. Maybe O-1 specialist, but again at age 18 you are unlikely to have the years of experience and notariety required. Rene |
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So obviously most of you believe it is not possible. However is it possible to get a temporary work visa and then if all goes well it can be transferred to a permanent visa ?
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Re: HELP - Job Offer in US
Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650716)
How come ?
Rene |
Re: HELP - Job Offer in US
Originally Posted by materialcontroller
(Post 12650712)
This definitely does not sound as though it's going to lead to you getting a job in the USA.
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I agree that this isn't sounding terribly promising unfortunately. At 18 you can't have the degree and/or experience necessary to qualify you for most employment based visas, and it's a bit odd that they are prepared to spend thousands and wait months for you to be able to start work when you can't have much (any?) relevant work experience. How did you apply for the job? Be careful, and make sure this isn't some kind of a scam - don't pay them any money whatever you do!
You can have a read of this link for info on all of the available visas, see if you think you and the job would fit in to any of them - https://britishexpats.com/wiki/Pulas...rk_in_the_USA_ HTH, best of luck. |
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Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650719)
So obviously most of you believe it is not possible. However is it possible to get a temporary work visa and then if all goes well it can be transferred to a permanent visa ?
There is a temporary work visa, but it's for seasonal workers like farm labor or ski instructors, that type of thing. Rene |
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Yeah it doesn't sound promising. To be fair I have quite a bit of experience in aviation ( Currently solo with my pilots license ) and have 2 diplomas one with the RAF and the other through my academy in Aeronautical Engineering. The employer has talked to me and purely thinks my drive and passion is unparalleled. They believe I have massive potential to do well in the industry. Any way I could get around the work visa issue? For example if i wasn't officially paid and work hours were traded for flying hours. Expenses would just be covered by the company.
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Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650726)
Yeah it doesn't sound promising. To be fair I have quite a bit of experience in aviation ( Currently solo with my pilots license ) and have 2 diplomas one with the RAF and the other through my academy in Aeronautical Engineering. The employer has talked to me a purely thinks my drive and passion is unparalleled. They believe I have massive potential to do well in the industry. Any way I could get around the work visa issue? For example if i wasn't officially paid and work hours were traded for flying hours. Expenses would just be covered by the company.
You can't get any kind of benefit in exchange for working, no. That would also need a visa. You can't even work for your own UK company whilst in the US! Any kind of work at all needs a visa I'm afraid. |
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Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650726)
Yeah it doesn't sound promising. To be fair I have quite a bit of experience in aviation ( Currently solo with my pilots license ) and have 2 diplomas one with the RAF and the other through my academy in Aeronautical Engineering. The employer has talked to me and purely thinks my drive and passion is unparalleled. They believe I have massive potential to do well in the industry. Any way I could get around the work visa issue? For example if i wasn't officially paid and work hours were traded for flying hours. Expenses would just be covered by the company.
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They already agreed to " sponsor my visa application " meaning ?
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Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650729)
They already agreed to " sponsor my visa application " meaning ?
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Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650726)
Yeah it doesn't sound promising. To be fair I have quite a bit of experience in aviation ( Currently solo with my pilots license ) and have 2 diplomas one with the RAF and the other through my academy in Aeronautical Engineering. The employer has talked to me and purely thinks my drive and passion is unparalleled. They believe I have massive potential to do well in the industry. Any way I could get around the work visa issue? For example if i wasn't officially paid and work hours were traded for flying hours. Expenses would just be covered by the company.
For now, just sit back and keep in touch with the employer and eventually they will tell you which visa they'll be applying for. They have to be working with an immigration lawyer to get it all sorted for you. There is really nothing for you to do at this time. Rene |
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Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650729)
They already agreed to " sponsor my visa application " meaning ?
Rene |
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Right, I will find out ASAP. Im not too sure if they know what type of visa they are going to apply for me but I'll find out. Thanks Rene :-) Rene |
Re: HELP - Job Offer in US
Danny
Don't be secretive, there's no need. People here get concerned and just want to help. This sounds very risky and at least complex. How did you get in contact with the employer? What actually is the job? Could you outline exactly what qualifications you have and how they apply to the job? And what they've stated in writing? If anything. Have you been asked to send anyone money for anything? |
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Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650735)
Yep, this is the crux of the problem. They've agreed to sponsor your work visa, but do they even know if it's possible themselves? Come on back when you find out and we'll be happy to help further.
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Do you train pilots? Is this related to some sort of pilot training school?
Please see my questions just above. As much precise information as possible please. It's 'visa' not Visa. Not being petty, just so you know. Has someone mentioned a visa type? |
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Originally Posted by DannyJones
(Post 12650746)
it says professional under one of the requirements for one of the Visa options. Surely training pilot is covered under that? |
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Right so sorry for being secretive as I wasn't too sure how much i could go into detail. I am a 18 year old seeking to be a pilot. I have flying under me and am now a solo student capable of flying by myself in a light aircraft but just need more tuition in order to achieve my full PPL. The way my potential employer started talking was over Facebook in a pilot group. I was simply asking for advice and telling him what experience qualifications I have etc. He went on to explain he's a pilot who has a lot of experience and is also a instructor. He has several companies which I have looked into ( all legit ) and has a new start up one in the aviation industry which does truly have a lot of potential. He asked me if i wanted to work for this start up company as the revenue is increasing massively now and projections are showing its going higher. They are looking at hiring individuals to start managing this company and assisting. With me it was agreed that in the short term work time could be paid for by flight hours and training along will living costs covered etc. I have not sent them any money and do not intend to. They have agreed to pay for a sponsor my visa. I have asked about visa and immigration lawyers and they have said how they are going to look into it. Qualifications wise I have 2 full level 3 diplomas in Teamwork & Management as well as Aeronautical Engineering.
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That's better info Danny.
It still sounds risky as I'm sure they could get Americans if they needed admin/operations help. I don't think they could even justify a employment visa application in this case given your age and inexperience. However I'm not sure if there are special considerations for the aviation industry.:unsure: It's not a matter generally of 'paying to sponsor', they have to make a case for you specifically and it can be a complex procedure. Maybe it is legit and they're not aware of how difficult it is to get a visa. You say it's a start up. Can you pleased indicate what service/product it offers? This may or may not apply. https://www.pea.com/blog/posts/stude...ing-in-the-us/ I do know someone from the UK who attends flight school near San Diego. He makes it part of his annual holiday. But it seems on this type of visa you cannot work/be paid in kind. |
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Originally Posted by Hotscot
(Post 12650752)
That's better info Danny.
It still sounds risky as I'm sure they could get Americans if they needed admin/operations help. Maybe it is legit and they're not aware of how difficult it is to get a visa. You say it's a start up. Can you pleased indicate what service/product it offers? |
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As already indicated, it is illegal for them to offer you lodging, tuition and flying hours in exchange for you carrying out work. Sounds as though they need advice from a reputable immigration attorney as to what is and isn't possible.
Good luck. I hope things work out for you. |
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Danny is it possible that you misinterpreted the facebook related exchange?
Perhaps this instructor was being generous and offering some flight hours in exchange for doing some work around the place. That's not allowed, he may not even be aware, but can you please indicate if that may have been the case? So perhaps the M1 visa would apply to you if you wanted to attend a legitimate flight school for training hours. But you wouldn't be able to work either for money, food, lodging or services. Here's some additional links. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-1_visa https://www.pea.com/international-students/u-s-visas/ https://www.internationalstudent.com...-student-visa/ In my cursory examination it looks like you could fulfill the requirements for an M1 visa and you could apply in the UK. Paperwork and £££ of course. You would also need to show you have enough funds to cover your expenses in the US. If you're really keen on this you could go on a study program at a USA university that provides routes to a career as a professional pilot. However, becoming a professional pilot, that's a very expensive thing to do as you need tons of flight hours and that costs. That's why many professional pilots are ex- Air Force, where they get training on the job. Take your time and study this information. Good luck! |
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I have a friend who is a Pilot, ex Navy, ex Major, now an instructor.
He also has another Business interest and was talking about bring somebody in from Europe who a friend had recommended. He knew about J's and I think assumed the same, pointed out this guy did not qualify for a J and there was no other obvious option, anyway nothing ever happened. Most people do not have a clue how Immigration works. |
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It does not matter how smart, sassy, talented and gifted you are. If you are a non-US ctizen, you need a visa.
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One thing in your favor is now and foreseeable future is a big need for pilots. Flying has been my main hobby for nearly fifty years. The normal progression here in the US for non military and non rich is to get your private , commercial and flight instructor rating by working any job available. Once you have the flight instructor rating you can acquire hours training other private pilots and maybe some simple commercial work like flying skydivers or banner towing. Prices to rent aircraft have gotten very expensive. When I started flying in 1969 I could rent a C150 for $7 per hour gas included at Vandenberg AFB flying club. Now it’s around $125 per hour. I would look for what opportunities you can find locally in the UK first. Many foreign students train here with Florida being very popular. Many of these schools offer a package deal for a set price and you just try to get a student loan and hope for the best. The main thing is to not give up too soon. If you were on a valid student visa would work study be legal? It is a common practice for American students to help defray costs. |
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Originally Posted by ddsrph
(Post 12650809)
Now it’s around $125 per hour. |
Re: HELP - Job Offer in US
Originally Posted by steveq
(Post 12650831)
I thinks its around $160(wet) per hour here
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