HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at the proofs
Mar 2nd 2006, 4:15 pm
#16
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at the proofs
Originally Posted by Newton
My family just applied for visitor's visa at the Surabaya consulate,
Indonesia. This is to attend our upcoming wedding. I am a US permanent
resident and he is a US citizen. We are actually already married at the
courthouse, but chose to delay the church ceremony until we can have
our families around.
Only my mother was granted visa, my siblings were rejected in what
equal to 3 minutes interview for each. No question except "How are you"
was asked, and the officer refused to check the papers they brought to
proof ties with the home country. He didn't even ask the reason of the
visit. My brother said, can you look at our papers? The officer said,
not necessary. My mother was granted visa after asked only one
question: what is the reason of her visit - no papers were checked.
They brought a lot of papers, our financial info and employment, letter
of invitation,
our contract with our wedding vendor, their house certificate, proof of
job, my sis brought proof that her baby and husband stay at home and
that she has a house, anything we could think of, really, but the
officer refused to look at the docs.
When I called, the consulate said that the officer felt that he could
make the decision without looking at the paper.
My brother had to fly for the interview, this is so unfair. I am
willing to reapply, but it looks useless compiling the proofs anyway.
Please someone advise, I am so sad and angry. Thanks.
Indonesia. This is to attend our upcoming wedding. I am a US permanent
resident and he is a US citizen. We are actually already married at the
courthouse, but chose to delay the church ceremony until we can have
our families around.
Only my mother was granted visa, my siblings were rejected in what
equal to 3 minutes interview for each. No question except "How are you"
was asked, and the officer refused to check the papers they brought to
proof ties with the home country. He didn't even ask the reason of the
visit. My brother said, can you look at our papers? The officer said,
not necessary. My mother was granted visa after asked only one
question: what is the reason of her visit - no papers were checked.
They brought a lot of papers, our financial info and employment, letter
of invitation,
our contract with our wedding vendor, their house certificate, proof of
job, my sis brought proof that her baby and husband stay at home and
that she has a house, anything we could think of, really, but the
officer refused to look at the docs.
When I called, the consulate said that the officer felt that he could
make the decision without looking at the paper.
My brother had to fly for the interview, this is so unfair. I am
willing to reapply, but it looks useless compiling the proofs anyway.
Please someone advise, I am so sad and angry. Thanks.
Mar 2nd 2006, 5:05 pm
#17
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at t
Originally Posted by ian-mstm
I have to chuckle at this because most Americans don't even speak "good English". 
Ian
Ian
By 'most Americans' do you mean only those south of the Canadian border?
Mar 2nd 2006, 5:06 pm
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at the proofs
I am tickled to answer this question. All my family members are Roman
Catholic or Protestant, and the baptismal certificates were in the pile
of papers the officer refused to see.
Oh, and the future is not bleak for everybody, and it is a personal
choice whether you want to build the business there or not. If you are
an exporter as my sister's family is, you earn USD and pay your living
expenses in Rupiah. Her rate of saving is a lot higher than people with
kids in the top 1% earning in the US. We are from a well to do family.
My question is why the consulate asked people to travel for interview,
asked them to bring the papers, advertised such a holy customer service
statement, and then openly didn't provide the service.
Catholic or Protestant, and the baptismal certificates were in the pile
of papers the officer refused to see.
Oh, and the future is not bleak for everybody, and it is a personal
choice whether you want to build the business there or not. If you are
an exporter as my sister's family is, you earn USD and pay your living
expenses in Rupiah. Her rate of saving is a lot higher than people with
kids in the top 1% earning in the US. We are from a well to do family.
My question is why the consulate asked people to travel for interview,
asked them to bring the papers, advertised such a holy customer service
statement, and then openly didn't provide the service.
Mar 2nd 2006, 5:22 pm
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at t
Originally Posted by Elvira
By 'most Americans' do you mean only those south of the Canadian border?
Getting back to the subject, all they can do is try again, but bearing in mind you have had the official wedding already, if you want your family to be present at a subsequent blessing because they did not make the wedding, then the obvious locale to have it is where they are.
Mar 2nd 2006, 7:17 pm
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at t
Originally Posted by Newton
My question is why the consulate asked people to travel for interview,
asked them to bring the papers, advertised such a holy customer service
statement, and then openly didn't provide the service.
asked them to bring the papers, advertised such a holy customer service
statement, and then openly didn't provide the service.
They do not ask people to travel for interview, they applied, they were not invited
They are not customers, perhaps that colours you perception, they are applicants.
They did provide the 'service', they were interviewed.
Mar 3rd 2006, 12:25 am
#21
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at t
Originally Posted by Newton
I am tickled to answer this question. All my family members are Roman
Catholic or Protestant, and the baptismal certificates were in the pile
of papers the officer refused to see.
Oh, and the future is not bleak for everybody, and it is a personal
choice whether you want to build the business there or not. If you are
an exporter as my sister's family is, you earn USD and pay your living
expenses in Rupiah. Her rate of saving is a lot higher than people with
kids in the top 1% earning in the US. We are from a well to do family.
Catholic or Protestant, and the baptismal certificates were in the pile
of papers the officer refused to see.
Oh, and the future is not bleak for everybody, and it is a personal
choice whether you want to build the business there or not. If you are
an exporter as my sister's family is, you earn USD and pay your living
expenses in Rupiah. Her rate of saving is a lot higher than people with
kids in the top 1% earning in the US. We are from a well to do family.
One reason why only your Mother was successful in getting a Visitor Visa is that by denying your siblings visas, is that the Consular Official may think your Mother is more likely to return to her home country because the majority of her offspring are still in Indonesia.
My question is why the consulate asked people to travel for interview,
asked them to bring the papers, advertised such a holy customer service
statement, and then openly didn't provide the service.
asked them to bring the papers, advertised such a holy customer service
statement, and then openly didn't provide the service.
Mar 3rd 2006, 12:28 am
#22
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at t
Originally Posted by NC Penguin
What question? Why do you mention your family's faith? Do you think this would be an advantage in getting approved for visitor visas?
One reason why only your Mother was successful in getting a Visitor Visa is that by denying your siblings visas, is that the Consular Official may think your Mother is more likely to return to her home country because the majority of her offspring are still in Indonesia.
Applicants at US Embassies around the world complain about the service provided. You're not alone. Maybe your siblings were impolite to the Consular Officer (or it was perceived that way).
One reason why only your Mother was successful in getting a Visitor Visa is that by denying your siblings visas, is that the Consular Official may think your Mother is more likely to return to her home country because the majority of her offspring are still in Indonesia.
Applicants at US Embassies around the world complain about the service provided. You're not alone. Maybe your siblings were impolite to the Consular Officer (or it was perceived that way).
I brought up the religious aspect, but not to differentiate between individuals. I mentioned that the screening process in a Islamic nation may be more strict.
Mar 4th 2006, 1:48 pm
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at the proofs
Sounds like they would be good candidates for a humanitarian parole.
You should give a shot at it :
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/h...role/index.htm
Good luck !!!
You should give a shot at it :
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/h...role/index.htm
Good luck !!!
Mar 4th 2006, 3:30 pm
#24
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at the proofs
Originally Posted by [email protected]
Sounds like they would be good candidates for a humanitarian parole.
You should give a shot at it :
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/h...role/index.htm
Good luck !!!
You should give a shot at it :
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/h...role/index.htm
Good luck !!!
Mar 4th 2006, 3:35 pm
#25
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at the proofs
Originally Posted by [email protected]
Sounds like they would be good candidates for a humanitarian parole.
You should give a shot at it :
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/h...role/index.htm
Good luck !!!
You should give a shot at it :
http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/h...role/index.htm
Good luck !!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060303/...vietnam_orphan
Mar 5th 2006, 2:55 pm
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at the proofs
It's said to say, but this kid didn't have enough ties with his home
country. The OP probably has more ties.
"crg14624" <member20421@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
> > Sounds like they would be good candidates for a humanitarian parole.
> > You should give a shot at it :
> > http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/h...role/index.htm
> >
> > Good luck !!!
> This kid didn't get a parole and his trip is more important:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060303/...vietnam_orphan
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
country. The OP probably has more ties.
"crg14624" <member20421@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
> > Sounds like they would be good candidates for a humanitarian parole.
> > You should give a shot at it :
> > http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/h...role/index.htm
> >
> > Good luck !!!
> This kid didn't get a parole and his trip is more important:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060303/...vietnam_orphan
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Mar 5th 2006, 3:15 pm
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at the proofs
Originally Posted by Olivier Wagner
It's said to say, but this kid didn't have enough ties with his home
country. The OP probably has more ties.
"crg14624" <member20421@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
> > Sounds like they would be good candidates for a humanitarian parole.
> > You should give a shot at it :
> > http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/h...role/index.htm
> >
> > Good luck !!!
> This kid didn't get a parole and his trip is more important:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060303/...vietnam_orphan
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
country. The OP probably has more ties.
"crg14624" <member20421@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
> > Sounds like they would be good candidates for a humanitarian parole.
> > You should give a shot at it :
> > http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/h...role/index.htm
> >
> > Good luck !!!
> This kid didn't get a parole and his trip is more important:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060303/...vietnam_orphan
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
ICE gave the specific reason for the denial. It was because the application "appears designed to circumvent or shortcut normal immigrant visa processing requirements."
The OP's application would be designed to circumvent or shortcut normal nonimmigrant visa processing requirements.
Mar 5th 2006, 9:59 pm
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at the proofs
I didn't come as visitor. They invited me from my past post in the UK,
I came with a job.
I came with a job.
Mar 7th 2006, 2:49 pm
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at the proofs
Can you come up with an example that couldn't be interpreted as
"appearing to be designed to circumvent or shortcut normal immigrant
visa processing requirements"?
Is there any type of travel for which no visa category exists? (I mean
the B category covers quite a large range of travel purposes)
"appearing to be designed to circumvent or shortcut normal immigrant
visa processing requirements"?
Is there any type of travel for which no visa category exists? (I mean
the B category covers quite a large range of travel purposes)
Mar 7th 2006, 6:13 pm
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Re: HELP: family's visitor visa application was denied - officer refused to look at t
Originally Posted by [email protected]
Can you come up with an example that couldn't be interpreted as
"appearing to be designed to circumvent or shortcut normal immigrant
visa processing requirements"?
Is there any type of travel for which no visa category exists? (I mean
the B category covers quite a large range of travel purposes)
"appearing to be designed to circumvent or shortcut normal immigrant
visa processing requirements"?
Is there any type of travel for which no visa category exists? (I mean
the B category covers quite a large range of travel purposes)
2. Entering Without Inspection.