H1B - Definition of "Emplyoment"

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Old Feb 23rd 2006, 4:30 pm
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Hey there,
Can someone help me with this question?

If I spend my own money to make a short film, and subsequently license the rights to a TV network to show it - does that constitute emplyment to BCIS?

If it makes a difference, I would lose money rather than see any income from this.

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I forgot to say!

I am currently on an H1b and want to worried about the above being "illegal emplyoment"
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Originally Posted by Chrisdc
I forgot to say!

I am currently on an H1b and want to worried about the above being "illegal emplyoment"
If it is within the remit of your H, no problem. Otherwise no.
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Hard to tell. Since you say that you would likely see a loss, it would
probably qualify as a hobby, and be legal with an H-1B.

If you did it to make money, it would certainly be employment and
illegal with an H-1B.

Chrisdc wrote:
    > Hey there,
    > Can someone help me with this question?
    >
    > If I spend my own money to make a short film, and subsequently license
    > the rights to a TV network to show it - does that constitute
    > emplyment to BCIS?
    >
    > If it makes a difference, I would lose money rather than see any income
    > from this.
    >
    > Thanks in advance!
    > Chris
    >


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Thankyou for the response Kevin,

It seems to be a grey area - the BCIS definition of employment is apparently very broad - anything which renders me a "benefit".

My fear is getting a 1099 for income even though I will have a record of spending a lot more than I earn. If I do AOS or any GC processing the 1099 may be noticed (on my tax return) and lead to complications...

or maybe it won't?

Is there mention of hobbies in immigration legislation?
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Chrisdc wrote:
    > Hard to tell. Since you say that you would likely see a loss, it would
    > probably qualify as a hobby, and be legal with an H-1B.
    >
    > If you did it to make money, it would certainly be employment and
    > illegal with an H-1B.
    >
    > Chrisdc wrote:
    >>>> Hey there,
    >>>> Can someone help me with this question?
    >>>> If I spend my own money to make a short film, and subsequently
    >>>> license
    >>>> the rights to a TV network to show it - does that constitute
    >>>> emplyment to BCIS?
    >>>> If it makes a difference, I would lose money rather than see any
    >>>> income
    >>>> from this.
    >>>> Thanks in advance!
    >>>> Chris

    > Thankyou for the response Kevin,

    > It seems to be a grey area - the BCIS definition of employment is
    > apparently very broad - anything which renders me a "benefit".

Not quite. Investment activity would clearly be permissible. What counts
is how much time you invest in the activity, and *then* whether it was
done with a money-making intent.

    > My fear is getting a 1099 for income even though I will have a record of
    > spending a lot more than I earn. If I do AOS or any GC processing the
    > 1099 may be noticed (on my tax return) and lead to complications...

    > or maybe it won't?

USCIS would usually rely on your own statements anyway. It is of course
entirely possible that they do ask you. That's not in itself a problem
as long as you have a good reason and can back it up. It is of course
possible that this would go on to appeal, and then into the court system.

Personally, I think the risk is low as long as you keep documentation
that it really is a hobby.

1099s for hobbies are quite common. Think of a hobby photographer, for
instance.

    > Is there mention of hobbies in immigration legislation?

I don't think it's explicitly mentioned. It would probably show up
mostly by its absence.

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