Form 156 Question #15 (LONG)
Feb 18th 2001, 7:06 pm
#1
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On the consular form 156, on question #15 is asks:
"Have you ever applied for a US non-immigrant visa? Yes or no." "Have you ever applied for
a US immigrant visa? Yes or no."
My question is, is this is the first time we have applied for the K-1. Am I supposed to
mark "YES" because this is my "applying for a non-immigrant visa" Or, mark "NO" because I
have never applied for one prior to this petition? The K-1, as I understand it correctly,
is actually a non-immigrant visa, but at what point does it become an immigrant visa?
Ever? Or never?
By the way, if any of you are wondering why I am filling out these dumb consulate forms
for my fiance, I just realized 2 days ago, my fiance is AWFUL at filling in forms. He
already totally screwed up his OF 230 I (completely written in his own native language).
He also told me he messed up his I-94 THREE times on his plane ride to visit me last
summer. There must be a more convienient way to do this. Does anyone else have this
problem as well??? I am pretty good at forms myself, except for the parts that seem a bit
vague. Well, I took it upon myself to use his scanned forms to paste his info into a JPG
file and upload back to him to fill in. Is there an easier way? I really don't want to
wait for him to mail me everything, and then my wasting money to mail it back Global
Express. And NO, I cannot use all downloaded forms.
All of his forms are Frankfurt
specific versions of the original INS forms. I would be willing to create fillable
versions for anyone going through Frankfurt if someone could show us how to do that later.
--
Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
"Have you ever applied for a US non-immigrant visa? Yes or no." "Have you ever applied for
a US immigrant visa? Yes or no."
My question is, is this is the first time we have applied for the K-1. Am I supposed to
mark "YES" because this is my "applying for a non-immigrant visa" Or, mark "NO" because I
have never applied for one prior to this petition? The K-1, as I understand it correctly,
is actually a non-immigrant visa, but at what point does it become an immigrant visa?
Ever? Or never?
By the way, if any of you are wondering why I am filling out these dumb consulate forms
for my fiance, I just realized 2 days ago, my fiance is AWFUL at filling in forms. He
already totally screwed up his OF 230 I (completely written in his own native language).
He also told me he messed up his I-94 THREE times on his plane ride to visit me last
summer. There must be a more convienient way to do this. Does anyone else have this
problem as well??? I am pretty good at forms myself, except for the parts that seem a bit
vague. Well, I took it upon myself to use his scanned forms to paste his info into a JPG
file and upload back to him to fill in. Is there an easier way? I really don't want to
wait for him to mail me everything, and then my wasting money to mail it back Global
Express. And NO, I cannot use all downloaded forms.
All of his forms are Frankfurtspecific versions of the original INS forms. I would be willing to create fillable
versions for anyone going through Frankfurt if someone could show us how to do that later.
--
Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
Feb 18th 2001, 9:25 pm
#2
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Go to Jonathan's Help site for K-1. He has a filled-out sample form in pdf format. Ask
your fiancee to copy all the relevant stuff. I think the form filler is called John Smith
or something like that. If you have not read the faq yet, go to www.k1faq.com When you
have trouble with questions on the form, stand in front of a mirror, look yourself in the
eye and repeat the question in a conversational style and see what the reflection answers.
Then write down the answer on the form.
> On the consular form 156, on question #15 is asks:
>
> "Have you ever applied for a US non-immigrant visa? Yes or no." "Have you ever applied
> for a US immigrant visa? Yes or no."
>
> My question is, is this is the first time we have applied for the K-1. Am
I
> supposed to mark "YES" because this is my "applying for a non-immigrant visa" Or, mark
> "NO" because I have never applied for one prior to this petition? The K-1, as I
> understand it correctly, is actually a
non-immigrant
> visa, but at what point does it become an immigrant visa? Ever? Or never?
>
> By the way, if any of you are wondering why I am filling out these dumb consulate forms
> for my fiance, I just realized 2 days ago, my fiance is AWFUL at filling in forms. He
> already totally screwed up his OF 230 I (completely written in his own native language).
> He also told me he messed up his I-94 THREE times on his plane ride to visit me last
> summer. There must be a more convienient way to do this. Does anyone else have this
> problem as well??? I am pretty good at forms myself, except for the parts that seem a
> bit vague. Well, I took it upon myself to use his scanned
forms
> to paste his info into a JPG file and upload back to him to fill in. Is there an easier
> way? I really don't want to wait for him to mail me everything, and then my wasting
> money to mail it back Global Express. And NO, I cannot use all downloaded forms. All
> of his forms are Frankfurt specific versions of the original INS forms. I would be
> willing to create fillable versions for anyone going through Frankfurt if someone could
> show us how to do that later.
>
> --
> Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
>
> We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
>
> Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
your fiancee to copy all the relevant stuff. I think the form filler is called John Smith
or something like that. If you have not read the faq yet, go to www.k1faq.com When you
have trouble with questions on the form, stand in front of a mirror, look yourself in the
eye and repeat the question in a conversational style and see what the reflection answers.
Then write down the answer on the form.
> On the consular form 156, on question #15 is asks:
>
> "Have you ever applied for a US non-immigrant visa? Yes or no." "Have you ever applied
> for a US immigrant visa? Yes or no."
>
> My question is, is this is the first time we have applied for the K-1. Am
I
> supposed to mark "YES" because this is my "applying for a non-immigrant visa" Or, mark
> "NO" because I have never applied for one prior to this petition? The K-1, as I
> understand it correctly, is actually a
non-immigrant
> visa, but at what point does it become an immigrant visa? Ever? Or never?
>
> By the way, if any of you are wondering why I am filling out these dumb consulate forms
> for my fiance, I just realized 2 days ago, my fiance is AWFUL at filling in forms. He
> already totally screwed up his OF 230 I (completely written in his own native language).
> He also told me he messed up his I-94 THREE times on his plane ride to visit me last
> summer. There must be a more convienient way to do this. Does anyone else have this
> problem as well??? I am pretty good at forms myself, except for the parts that seem a
> bit vague. Well, I took it upon myself to use his scanned
forms
> to paste his info into a JPG file and upload back to him to fill in. Is there an easier
> way? I really don't want to wait for him to mail me everything, and then my wasting
> money to mail it back Global Express. And NO, I cannot use all downloaded forms.
All> of his forms are Frankfurt specific versions of the original INS forms. I would be
> willing to create fillable versions for anyone going through Frankfurt if someone could
> show us how to do that later.
>
> --
> Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
>
> We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
>
> Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
Feb 18th 2001, 9:59 pm
#3
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WOW...that was an updated page I never saw until now. Thanks again. I see it all there
(sample forms)
--
Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> Go to Jonathan's Help site for K-1. He has a filled-out sample form in
pdf
> format. Ask your fiancee to copy all the relevant stuff. I think the
form
> filler is called John Smith or something like that. If you have not read the faq yet, go
> to www.k1faq.com When you have trouble with questions on the form, stand in front of a
> mirror, look yourself in the eye and repeat the question in a
conversational
> style and see what the reflection answers. Then write down the answer on the form.
>
> > On the consular form 156, on question #15 is asks:
> >
> > "Have you ever applied for a US non-immigrant visa? Yes or no." "Have you ever applied
> > for a US immigrant visa? Yes or no."
> >
> > My question is, is this is the first time we have applied for the K-1.
Am
> I
> > supposed to mark "YES" because this is my "applying for a non-immigrant visa" Or, mark
> > "NO" because I have never applied for one prior to this petition? The K-1, as I
> > understand it correctly, is actually a
> non-immigrant
> > visa, but at what point does it become an immigrant visa? Ever? Or
never?
> >
> > By the way, if any of you are wondering why I am filling out these dumb consulate
> > forms for my fiance, I just realized 2 days ago, my fiance is AWFUL at filling in
> > forms. He already totally screwed up his OF 230 I (completely written in his own
> > native language). He also told me he
messed
> > up his I-94 THREE times on his plane ride to visit me last summer. There must be a
> > more convienient way to do this. Does anyone else have this problem as well??? I am
> > pretty good at forms myself, except for the
parts
> > that seem a bit vague. Well, I took it upon myself to use his scanned
> forms
> > to paste his info into a JPG file and upload back to him to fill in. Is there an
> > easier way? I really don't want to wait for him to mail me everything, and then my
> > wasting money to mail it back Global Express.
And
> > NO, I cannot use all downloaded forms. All of his forms are Frankfurt specific
> > versions of the original INS forms. I would be willing to
create
> > fillable versions for anyone going through Frankfurt if someone could
show
> > us how to do that later.
> >
> > --
> > Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
> >
> > We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
> >
> > Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> >
(sample forms)
--
Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> Go to Jonathan's Help site for K-1. He has a filled-out sample form in
> format. Ask your fiancee to copy all the relevant stuff. I think the
form
> filler is called John Smith or something like that. If you have not read the faq yet, go
> to www.k1faq.com When you have trouble with questions on the form, stand in front of a
> mirror, look yourself in the eye and repeat the question in a
conversational
> style and see what the reflection answers. Then write down the answer on the form.
>
> > On the consular form 156, on question #15 is asks:
> >
> > "Have you ever applied for a US non-immigrant visa? Yes or no." "Have you ever applied
> > for a US immigrant visa? Yes or no."
> >
> > My question is, is this is the first time we have applied for the K-1.
Am
> I
> > supposed to mark "YES" because this is my "applying for a non-immigrant visa" Or, mark
> > "NO" because I have never applied for one prior to this petition? The K-1, as I
> > understand it correctly, is actually a
> non-immigrant
> > visa, but at what point does it become an immigrant visa? Ever? Or
never?
> >
> > By the way, if any of you are wondering why I am filling out these dumb consulate
> > forms for my fiance, I just realized 2 days ago, my fiance is AWFUL at filling in
> > forms. He already totally screwed up his OF 230 I (completely written in his own
> > native language). He also told me he
messed
> > up his I-94 THREE times on his plane ride to visit me last summer. There must be a
> > more convienient way to do this. Does anyone else have this problem as well??? I am
> > pretty good at forms myself, except for the
parts
> > that seem a bit vague. Well, I took it upon myself to use his scanned
> forms
> > to paste his info into a JPG file and upload back to him to fill in. Is there an
> > easier way? I really don't want to wait for him to mail me everything, and then my
> > wasting money to mail it back Global Express.
And
> > NO, I cannot use all downloaded forms.
All of his forms are Frankfurt specific> > versions of the original INS forms. I would be willing to
create
> > fillable versions for anyone going through Frankfurt if someone could
show
> > us how to do that later.
> >
> > --
> > Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
> >
> > We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
> >
> > Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> >
Feb 18th 2001, 10:12 pm
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Exactly what Moses said when he got those filled stone tablets with the "10 suggestions".
> WOW...that was an updated page I never saw until now. Thanks again. I see
it
> all there (sample forms)
> WOW...that was an updated page I never saw until now. Thanks again. I see
it
> all there (sample forms)
Feb 18th 2001, 10:15 pm
#5
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Okay okay...enough picking on me. 
We're having a big struggle getting these things
filled in correctly. My man is a little thick-headed.
--
Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> Exactly what Moses said when he got those filled stone tablets with the
"10
> suggestions".
> > WOW...that was an updated page I never saw until now. Thanks again. I
see
> it
> > all there (sample forms)
>
>
We're having a big struggle getting these thingsfilled in correctly.
My man is a little thick-headed.--
Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> Exactly what Moses said when he got those filled stone tablets with the
"10
> suggestions".
> > WOW...that was an updated page I never saw until now. Thanks again. I
see
> it
> > all there (sample forms)
>
>
Feb 18th 2001, 10:38 pm
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Hi, It wasn't meant for you. You please carry on with your task ahead. Nobody can (or
needs to) explain why they do what they do for/with their alien fiancees and spouses. I
meant the descriptive subject line for Jonathan ( retired, BTW) who may want to know how
his efforts are paying off. My analogy elevated him high enough that {if he actually reads
and believes it} he could have a nose bleed. Onigiri
> Okay okay...enough picking on me. We're having a big struggle getting these things
> filled in correctly. My man is a little thick-headed.
>
> --
> Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
>
> We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
>
> Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> > Exactly what Moses said when he got those filled stone tablets with the
> "10
> > suggestions".
> > > WOW...that was an updated page I never saw until now. Thanks again. I
> see
> > it
> > > all there (sample forms)
> >
> >
> >
>
needs to) explain why they do what they do for/with their alien fiancees and spouses. I
meant the descriptive subject line for Jonathan ( retired, BTW) who may want to know how
his efforts are paying off. My analogy elevated him high enough that {if he actually reads
and believes it} he could have a nose bleed. Onigiri
> Okay okay...enough picking on me.
We're having a big struggle getting these things> filled in correctly.
My man is a little thick-headed.>
> --
> Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
>
> We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
>
> Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> > Exactly what Moses said when he got those filled stone tablets with the
> "10
> > suggestions".
> > > WOW...that was an updated page I never saw until now. Thanks again. I
> see
> > it
> > > all there (sample forms)
> >
> >
> >
>
Feb 18th 2001, 11:11 pm
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Two things:
1. Answer the questions as though for previous visas, not including the current K1.
2. I think they fill out less forms in general in some countries in Europe, including
Austria. Reinhard's amazed at all the paperwork involved in daily life here. I filled
out all the forms for both of us for the K1 - I had more practice and my handwriting
is better.
Betastar
1. Answer the questions as though for previous visas, not including the current K1.
2. I think they fill out less forms in general in some countries in Europe, including
Austria. Reinhard's amazed at all the paperwork involved in daily life here. I filled
out all the forms for both of us for the K1 - I had more practice and my handwriting
is better.
Betastar
Feb 19th 2001, 12:19 am
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Its bad enough as it is..he has everything there now. I told him to print Jonathan's
filled forms and write his excatly the same except to fit our case. I only hope Frankfurt
likes printed forms because their are a bit different in the German version, and he keeps
messing up the originals.
--
Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
>
> Two things:
>
> 1. Answer the questions as though for previous visas, not including the current K1.
>
> 2. I think they fill out less forms in general in some countries in Europe, including
> Austria. Reinhard's amazed at all the paperwork involved in daily life here. I filled
> out all the forms for both of us for the K1 - I had more practice and my handwriting
> is better.
>
>
> Betastar
filled forms and write his excatly the same except to fit our case. I only hope Frankfurt
likes printed forms because their are a bit different in the German version, and he keeps
messing up the originals.
--
Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
>
> Two things:
>
> 1. Answer the questions as though for previous visas, not including the current K1.
>
> 2. I think they fill out less forms in general in some countries in Europe, including
> Austria. Reinhard's amazed at all the paperwork involved in daily life here. I filled
> out all the forms for both of us for the K1 - I had more practice and my handwriting
> is better.
>
>
> Betastar
Feb 21st 2001, 1:02 pm
#9
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Could you hand me a tissue for this nose bleed?
--
Jonathan (Pretending what Onigiri said made sense...) _/ _/ _/ _/ K-1 Fiance Visa
Immigration through to Adjustment of Status http://clik.to/getk1 K-1 & Adjustment of
Status Links Page http://clik.to/K1andAOSLinks Newsgroup FAQ http://www.k1faq.com Arnaldo
and Alvena's Fiance Visa Page http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/ Immigration and
Naturalization Service http://www.ins.usdoj.gov {I am not a lawyer and this is not legal
advice. For reliable advice, please consult with a professional immigration attorney.}
> Hi, It wasn't meant for you. You please carry on with your task ahead.
Nobody
> can (or needs to) explain why they do what they do for/with their alien fiancees and
> spouses. I meant the descriptive subject line for Jonathan ( retired, BTW) who may want
> to know how his efforts are paying off. My analogy elevated him high enough that {if he
> actually reads and believes it} he could have a nose bleed. Onigiri
>
> > Okay okay...enough picking on me. We're having a big struggle getting these things
> > filled in correctly. My man is a little thick-headed.
> >
> > --
> > Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
> >
> > We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
> >
> > Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> > > Exactly what Moses said when he got those filled stone tablets with
the
> > "10
> > > suggestions".
> > > > WOW...that was an updated page I never saw until now. Thanks again.
I
> > see
> > > it
> > > > all there (sample forms)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
--
Jonathan (Pretending what Onigiri said made sense...) _/ _/ _/ _/ K-1 Fiance Visa
Immigration through to Adjustment of Status http://clik.to/getk1 K-1 & Adjustment of
Status Links Page http://clik.to/K1andAOSLinks Newsgroup FAQ http://www.k1faq.com Arnaldo
and Alvena's Fiance Visa Page http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/ Immigration and
Naturalization Service http://www.ins.usdoj.gov {I am not a lawyer and this is not legal
advice. For reliable advice, please consult with a professional immigration attorney.}
> Hi, It wasn't meant for you. You please carry on with your task ahead.
Nobody
> can (or needs to) explain why they do what they do for/with their alien fiancees and
> spouses. I meant the descriptive subject line for Jonathan ( retired, BTW) who may want
> to know how his efforts are paying off. My analogy elevated him high enough that {if he
> actually reads and believes it} he could have a nose bleed. Onigiri
>
> > Okay okay...enough picking on me.
We're having a big struggle getting these things> > filled in correctly.
My man is a little thick-headed.> >
> > --
> > Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
> >
> > We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
> >
> > Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> > > Exactly what Moses said when he got those filled stone tablets with
the
> > "10
> > > suggestions".
> > > > WOW...that was an updated page I never saw until now. Thanks again.
I
> > see
> > > it
> > > > all there (sample forms)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
Feb 21st 2001, 1:05 pm
#10
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The Packet #3 & #4 forms on my site are for information and practice only. I do not
recommend using forms different from those sent by the consulate. The good news is that
they will likely send him all the forms again since you got the original ones by FAXing an
approval notice. Most likely they will send out Packet #3 as soon as they get the original
approval from INS.
--
Jonathan _/ _/ _/ _/ K-1 Fiance Visa Immigration through to Adjustment of Status
http://clik.to/getk1 K-1 & Adjustment of Status Links Page http://clik.to/K1andAOSLinks
Newsgroup FAQ http://www.k1faq.com Arnaldo and Alvena's Fiance Visa Page
http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/ Immigration and Naturalization Service
http://www.ins.usdoj.gov {I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable
advice, please consult with a professional immigration attorney.}
> Its bad enough as it is..he has everything there now. I told him to print Jonathan's
> filled forms and write his excatly the same except to fit our case. I only hope
> Frankfurt likes printed forms because their are a bit different in the German version,
> and he keeps messing up the originals.
>
> --
> Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
>
> We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
>
> Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> >
> > Two things:
> >
> > 1. Answer the questions as though for previous visas, not including the current K1.
> >
> > 2. I think they fill out less forms in general in some countries in Europe, including
> > Austria. Reinhard's amazed at all the paperwork involved in daily life here. I
> > filled out all the forms for both of us for the K1 - I had more practice and my
> > handwriting is better.
> >
> >
> > Betastar
>
recommend using forms different from those sent by the consulate. The good news is that
they will likely send him all the forms again since you got the original ones by FAXing an
approval notice. Most likely they will send out Packet #3 as soon as they get the original
approval from INS.
--
Jonathan _/ _/ _/ _/ K-1 Fiance Visa Immigration through to Adjustment of Status
http://clik.to/getk1 K-1 & Adjustment of Status Links Page http://clik.to/K1andAOSLinks
Newsgroup FAQ http://www.k1faq.com Arnaldo and Alvena's Fiance Visa Page
http://www2.apex.net/users/thehydes/ Immigration and Naturalization Service
http://www.ins.usdoj.gov {I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. For reliable
advice, please consult with a professional immigration attorney.}
> Its bad enough as it is..he has everything there now. I told him to print Jonathan's
> filled forms and write his excatly the same except to fit our case. I only hope
> Frankfurt likes printed forms because their are a bit different in the German version,
> and he keeps messing up the originals.
>
> --
> Angie - Ft Lauderdale, Florida, USA Sascha - Wuppertal, North Rhine Westfalia, Germany
>
> We are going through the K-1 Fiance Visa process.
>
> Our Current K-1 Timeline: http://members.nbci.com/charmeuse000/
> >
> > Two things:
> >
> > 1. Answer the questions as though for previous visas, not including the current K1.
> >
> > 2. I think they fill out less forms in general in some countries in Europe, including
> > Austria. Reinhard's amazed at all the paperwork involved in daily life here. I
> > filled out all the forms for both of us for the K1 - I had more practice and my
> > handwriting is better.
> >
> >
> > Betastar
>
