Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
Dec 8th 2007, 4:33 pm
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
An exaggerated example perhaps?
Dec 8th 2007, 10:54 pm
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/travel/...gperprints.htm
“Guilty until proven innocent” is how some people have summed up the US government’s new security demands – travellers arriving at US airports will soon be forced to give fingerprints of all 10 digits before the authorities deign to allow them into the Land of the Free.
“Guilty until proven innocent” is how some people have summed up the US government’s new security demands – travellers arriving at US airports will soon be forced to give fingerprints of all 10 digits before the authorities deign to allow them into the Land of the Free.
Its still shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted tho..........
Dec 11th 2007, 1:59 pm
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
Mildy amusing spin on the "if you have nothing to hide" argumement...
Don't know if it's still the case, but a few years ago the US starting fingerprinting people coming in from certain countries only, inc Brazil. Brazil was of course outraged. The US went with the "if you have nothing to hide" argumement and told them that's just the way it is.
So Brazil, purely coincidentally of course, started it's own fingerprinting POE requirement. But only for Americans
Everyone else could just carry on through. I had 2 American colleagues tell me how they, along with a few other USCs, were all shuffled off to a clearly thrown together back room to have fingerprints taken.
Not sure if that's still the case, but I certainly found it amusing at the time
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/...azil-usa_x.htm
Don't know if it's still the case, but a few years ago the US starting fingerprinting people coming in from certain countries only, inc Brazil. Brazil was of course outraged. The US went with the "if you have nothing to hide" argumement and told them that's just the way it is.
So Brazil, purely coincidentally of course, started it's own fingerprinting POE requirement. But only for Americans
Everyone else could just carry on through. I had 2 American colleagues tell me how they, along with a few other USCs, were all shuffled off to a clearly thrown together back room to have fingerprints taken. Not sure if that's still the case, but I certainly found it amusing at the time
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/...azil-usa_x.htm
Dec 11th 2007, 3:36 pm
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
I had gone over 50 years without having my fingerprints on any database. I do feel the loss of anonimity and privacy knowing my prints are now on file for any cop to look at. I am not a criminal and do not intend to carry out any crimes, and wish I could get my prints removed from all fingerprint databases which they may be on. However I realised before moving here that part of the process would involve having to give my prints to Immigration, so I have learned to live with it, mostly...
We are all aware of your sordid history as an international Jewel Thief.
Fisher le renard they used to call you, until you reformed and moved to Florida.
Dec 11th 2007, 3:53 pm
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/travel/...gperprints.htm
“Guilty until proven innocent” is how some people have summed up the US government’s new security demands – travellers arriving at US airports will soon be forced to give fingerprints of all 10 digits before the authorities deign to allow them into the Land of the Free.
“Guilty until proven innocent” is how some people have summed up the US government’s new security demands – travellers arriving at US airports will soon be forced to give fingerprints of all 10 digits before the authorities deign to allow them into the Land of the Free.
Dec 11th 2007, 7:36 pm
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
Tourist numbers from the UK to the USA has already nosedived. I think you are right, this will make matters worse with visitors from other countries avoiding the USA too.
Dec 14th 2007, 8:08 am
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
I know it has -- have spoken with a few visitors I've chanced upon and they have all grumbled about the "warm welcome" ICE gave them.
Dec 14th 2007, 10:51 am
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
They also increased the US Visa application to $131 from $100 
The US government says the increase will help cover the added finger printing cost.
The US government says the increase will help cover the added finger printing cost.
Dec 14th 2007, 3:47 pm
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
You know, that's what I've been thinking too. It would make a heck of a lot more sense to put passengers through scrutiny before they even leave for wherever they're going. I know I don't feel safer by all they're doing now, after arrival, but before departure would. Not that I really am concerned about my safety though, I'm still more worried about engine failure on planes than anything else though lol.
Dec 14th 2007, 3:50 pm
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/travel/...gperprints.htm
“Guilty until proven innocent” is how some people have summed up the US government’s new security demands – travellers arriving at US airports will soon be forced to give fingerprints of all 10 digits before the authorities deign to allow them into the Land of the Free.
“Guilty until proven innocent” is how some people have summed up the US government’s new security demands – travellers arriving at US airports will soon be forced to give fingerprints of all 10 digits before the authorities deign to allow them into the Land of the Free.
Dec 15th 2007, 3:24 am
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
It didn't say but it looks like only for those non citizens.
Dec 18th 2007, 5:32 pm
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
Dec 19th 2007, 12:06 am
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Re: Fingerprinting frenzy in the US
I think US immigration just wants the rest of .the world to do the real work. I was searched, along with everybody else, three times before even getting out of europe on the way here. When I arrived some half asleep looking bird in a cop uniform scanned my fingers and my eyeball and then waved me through without so much as a word. I had heard all these horror stories about - if you nicked a Mars Bar when you were ten they will know about it!!!
So, the whole world is scanning and metal detecting and stressing passengers out and once they land thats it. Maybe it is just NYC where they take it all pretty seriously. When Mrs Sod came to the UK she had a gift for my mum, a fancy cheese board and a cheese knife much bigger than the famous box cutters of 9/11. At O'Hare they looked at it and let her carry it on in hand luggage. Changing at NYC they took it away from her straight away. It's al load of old bollox if you ask me!
So, the whole world is scanning and metal detecting and stressing passengers out and once they land thats it. Maybe it is just NYC where they take it all pretty seriously. When Mrs Sod came to the UK she had a gift for my mum, a fancy cheese board and a cheese knife much bigger than the famous box cutters of 9/11. At O'Hare they looked at it and let her carry it on in hand luggage. Changing at NYC they took it away from her straight away. It's al load of old bollox if you ask me!