scrubbedexpat099

Just take the one she has.

daniel.thomas10

thats the one that was lost when we threw out the passport and had cancelled

Britsimon

Right choice.

Can I suggest you head over to this site and plan your trip. Anything that will occupy you really - but this would be interesting to you...

http://www.mousesavers.com/walt-disn...orld-vacation/

daniel.thomas10

will have a look at that thank you

MarylandNed

Yes, I should have said "probably can't" rather than "can't" (in terms of being able to make the planned trip soon after a B2 denial). I know quite a few people who have had B1/B2 denials. Every one of them was told to wait 6 months before trying again and all of them had issues with obtaining an ESTA. I've heard on here that some people did not have issues but it would be interesting to know what the percentages are. I think it's quite risky to apply for B2 if you qualify for VWP/ESTA (assuming it will suffice for your trip). I would go the VWP/ESTA route first.

daniel.thomas10

Yes, she passed the ESTA, but has never been denied a visa... but I'm saying we should take the advice we have had on here and travel using the ESTA. She's worried that because she had a visa they will be expecting to see a visa at boarder control and turn her away. She thinks we should still apply for the B2

ScousePete

I'm not sure if one passport will be enough for your wife. Is there any way she would qualify for Irish citizenship? That way she would have two passports to show the officer upon entry. Double her chances of entry.





I'm just kidding

hungryhorace

Oh. My. God.

Just stop, for the love of all things holy. PLEASE. You have had countless amounts of advice from people here ALL telling you the correct course of action. Tell your wife what we've told you. She is not an expert, far from it, and needs to listen to those wiser than her.

daniel.thomas10

I know, cheers. We are going to go on the ESTA.
You guys seem to know what your talking about.
And I have not got a clue if I'm honest.
Just out of intrest why does the VWP questionnaire on the us website tell you to get a visa if you have ever been arrested and the ESTA website only if that arrest involves a Cimt surly that will cause problems. If I had seen the ESTA website years ago it would have saved all this.

Also what does the ESTA system check against??? It's can't just be a tick box or it would not have come back pending... Will someone have manually checked my wife's ESTA application

Noorah101

Because the two websites are maintained by totally different entities, and the embassy tends to "play it safe" by saying "ever been arrested", even though that hurts the applicant in the long run.

No way of knowing, sorry. Only someone who actually works in that area would be able to share that knowledge.

Rene

hungryhorace

Lay people won't be aware of what a CIMT is, let alone be able to judge whether there crime falls into the category. Even expert immigration attorneys are split on whether certain crimes fall into CIMT categories or not.

Hence the US Embassy in the UK goes for a blanket 'any and all arrests' approach as it's the easier way for them to manage requests. It's a totally false line, and one which they themselves must know is false, but there is good reasoning behind it.

daniel.thomas10

talk about making life difficult.... Last time I take anything off the embassy website.

When we travel on the ESTA and let's say my wife gets pulled in... And did need a visa. Would they just send her home or is it up to there discretion if she can stay or not?

hungryhorace

They have complete discretion. Can I attempt to put your mind at risk? In all probability, your wife is going to be absolutely fine. They will ask her why she's here, she replies 'Disneyworld', you'll be asked how long you're staying for, STAMP, done.

IF, they do query the prior use of a B1/B2 visa, then simply be honest and state that you believe you needed a visa to travel due to a prior DUI however upon taking advice you were informed that a DUI was not a CIMT and hence were allowed to use the VWP.

daniel.thomas10

That's put my mind at a lot of ease thank you.

MarylandNed

Here's another suggestion that might put your wife at ease - fly to the US from Ireland e.g. Shannon or Dublin. They have US pre-clearance there i.e. you clear US customs and immigration in the Shannon or Dublin airport before you board the plane. When you land in the US, it's like you just landed on a US domestic flight. You just walk off the plane and exit the airport or get on a connecting flight.