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Hi Everyone,

I am newbie to this forum and i wondered if anyone had any advice for me.

I am a british citizen and i applied to study in the US and was suppose to start in the fall semester. I received the approval from the University I-20 etc and was denied the visa to study twice under section 214b. The college has now deferred my start date for the spring semester. However, I am so worried i will be denied again this student visa. Just wanted to know if anyone had this experience and what they did to have a visa approved.
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Originally Posted by blackberri
Hi Everyone,

I am newbie to this forum and i wondered if anyone had any advice for me.

I am a british citizen and i applied to study in the US and was suppose to start in the fall semester. I received the approval from the University I-20 etc and was denied the visa to study twice under section 214b. The college has now deferred my start date for the spring semester. However, I am so worried i will be denied again this student visa. Just wanted to know if anyone had this experience and what they did to have a visa approved.
This is what the Dept of State says about the denial. (I assume you have already looked at this site. All it took me was a quite Google of 214b to find it) It appears you have to show stronger ties to your home country that would compel you to leave the US and return home. As I do not know your circumstances I do not know what you could do to improve your chances. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will be along soon to offer advice.
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thanks for that SarahG.. But i have been reading on the 214b denial and stuff.

Maybe i should have provided more information, so her goes. I am 25, married no children working for local government in a senior role, i have a council property and saving to cover my tuition. My husband will not be travelling will be staying in the UK as he has his job here. Most of my family is in the UK. I am uncertain of what to show as ties in the UK. The CO didnt ask me any questions only why i chose NY and then handed me the reject letter on the second occasion, the CO said he can see i had ties to the UK but still agreed with his colleague. So right now i am lost..... any help please.
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I would have thought having a husband and a home (even if it is rented) here would be a strong reason to return to the UK! Is your job being held open for you to return to? Someone I worked with left the UK just before I did to do a course at a school in California and I think she is doing a mini career break and will go back to her job once school is over.
Not sure what else to suggest. Best of luck!
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Moved your thread to the proper forum.
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Maybe i should have provided more information...
This info is important for the Consulate also. Having a husband and job in the UK is nice... but you need to document that you have a husband and a job in the UK. It's the documentation of all this stuff that the Consulate wants to see. It's the lack of documentation that's most likely at the root of the problem... they want paperwork - give them paperwork.

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thanks for that SarahG.. But i have been reading on the 214b denial and stuff.

Maybe i should have provided more information, so her goes. I am 25, married no children working for local government in a senior role, i have a council property and saving to cover my tuition. My husband will not be travelling will be staying in the UK as he has his job here. Most of my family is in the UK. I am uncertain of what to show as ties in the UK. The CO didnt ask me any questions only why i chose NY and then handed me the reject letter on the second occasion, the CO said he can see i had ties to the UK but still agreed with his colleague. So right now i am lost..... any help please.
It seems like it might be a good idea for you to have a professional consultation to find out what's wrong with your application.
The problem you face now is multiple attempts start to look desperate and can work against you. I'd say you need someone to review your paperwork and give you a proper individualized report about what you've presented incorrectly.
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Originally Posted by blackberri
thanks for that SarahG.. But i have been reading on the 214b denial and stuff.

Maybe i should have provided more information, so her goes. I am 25, married no children working for local government in a senior role, i have a council property and saving to cover my tuition. My husband will not be travelling will be staying in the UK as he has his job here. Most of my family is in the UK. I am uncertain of what to show as ties in the UK. The CO didnt ask me any questions only why i chose NY and then handed me the reject letter on the second occasion, the CO said he can see i had ties to the UK but still agreed with his colleague. So right now i am lost..... any help please.
Maybe I'm being picky on your wording, but...

Would the rest of your family be in the US? If so, that might be a contributing factor.
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Originally Posted by celticgrid
Maybe I'm being picky on your wording, but...

Would the rest of your family be in the US? If so, that might be a contributing factor.
The reading between the lines.

Bearing in mind the US is a very expensive place for education, what is it that attracts you to that particular course, did you convey this?
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Originally Posted by meauxna
It seems like it might be a good idea for you to have a professional consultation to find out what's wrong with your application.
The problem you face now is multiple attempts start to look desperate and can work against you. I'd say you need someone to review your paperwork and give you a proper individualized report about what you've presented incorrectly.
Isn't the main problem the fact she is going without her Husband?. Why is no one suggesting that is problem, I am not passing judgement I am just asking a question doesn't her travelling over alone smack off immigrant intent?
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Isn't the main problem the fact she is going without her Husband?. Why is no one suggesting that is problem, I am not passing judgement I am just asking a question doesn't her travelling over alone smack off immigrant intent?
No, normally the opposite.
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Isn't the main problem the fact she is going without her Husband?. Why is no one suggesting that is problem, I am not passing judgement I am just asking a question doesn't her travelling over alone smack off immigrant intent?
No. The fact that she has a husband to return home to says a lot for her NOT wanting to stay in the USA.

If they were both attempting to go to the USA together, it might look like they both want to stay there.

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No, normally the opposite.
Ok fair enough.
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Bearing in mind the US is a very expensive place for education, ?
Could this be the problem? Most potential students do not have very strong ties, but a possible sub-optimal perception may be that the OP would have to bail out of school and work to cover her bills.
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Could this be the problem? Most potential students do not have very strong ties, but a possible sub-optimal perception may be that the OP would have to bail out of school and work to cover her bills.
Could be, but the fact that the OP got an I-20 in the first place indicates that they must have satisfied the school that they had sufficient funds to cover their expenses. Of course the CO has to be satisfied as well, but in many cases they seem to take the fact that the I-20 was issued by the school in the first place as being sufficient. A friend of mine is over here on an F-1 visa right now and he was lucky enough to have one of those "30 second" interviews at which essentially no questions were asked - they certainly didn't ask anything about his finances (although he had, of course, already provided that information to the school).

So, I think that is is really hard to know what went wrong for the OP. Perhaps, as has already been suggested, if an experience immigration attorney were to review the documentation that the OP submitted they might be able to see some potential problem areas - or perhaps not ...
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