christmasoompa

Xdcam mentioned the CRB in his first post, as well as PNC. Anyway, my point was that xdcam keeps saying how his criminal record is confidential, private, etc (i.e. 'police-national-computer, CBR and the ACPO database is strict, very strict and private, only that person can get their own information; nobody else') - but anybody can access it for a small fee.

ian-mstm

Umm... no, there isn't.

Ian

bjohn

Not quite anybody

Who can apply for a CRB Check?

CRB checks cannot be obtained by members of the public directly but are only available to organisations and only for those professions, offices, employments, work and occupations listed in the Exceptions Order to the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974.

For this reason your application will be processed either by your employer, if it is registered with the CRB, or a third party organisation, called an Umbrella Body, which is registered with the CRB.

http://www.crb.gov.uk/

christmasoompa

Those may be the official rules, but realistically anybody can get one. Most of my friends get them regularly for nannies/babysitters.

All they have to do is ask a friend with a company, or their own boss, to do it for them. Plus there are lots of websites that issue them without checking who has requested it. Easily done.

lansbury

No anyone cannot access it. You are posting total rubbish.

Who can have access and it what circumstances via CRB is strictly controlled by law.

CRB and ACPO access the PNC they do not have separate databases as your totally misleading post implies. ACPO for checks requested by the individual and CRB for checks requested by organizations and individuals both in strictly controlled circumstances.

lansbury

If you are employing people to work with children that is one of the criteria that the law allows. In fact they can request the person they intend to employ to obtain one.

xdcam

I second that. It took me ages to get information about myself; they wanted to know everything and have passport pictures etc.

christmasoompa

Charming. What a great way to politely disagree with someone!

Anyway, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I have got several CRB checks over the past couple of years for babysitters, volunteers at our local pre-school and potential employees of my company. All have been easy to obtain (I certainly haven't had to provide passport photos or the like!) and have been done online without me having to prove who I am or what I want them for.

I'm guessing that officially, it's supposed to be much harder to get them - but the reality with so many online companies doing them is that the criteria is less strict than it should be.

bjohn

Out of curiosity, did the people you sort CRB checks for give their consent?

Last time my CRB was checked whilst working for a government organisation I had to give consent in the form of a signed document. Until I signed it no CRB check could be done.

TumpMasterFlex

Well I've searched the gammit of jobs. And the only time I was asked to consent for a CRB check was with Phones 4 U. The funny thing is I disclosed it and gave my constent, thinking it was a forgone conclusion and they still called me back, and subsequently offered me a job. Eventually I got a job in trade finance at a bank so it didn't have to bother. But asides from them, I was never asked for one. I don't think firms, companies, or organizations can legally peform CRB checks without consent from the person being considered.

I would be a little concerned, but in year I won't have to disclose it anyway. The whole point of Criminal Offenders Act is an individual is protected from having to disclose and potential employers finding out about an offence past 5 years, given no other legal infractions have occured.

Guys I'm correct in my decision not to lie on the ESTA correct? Once you lie, you'll have to stick by this lie for life won't you? I mean in regards to US customs officials. And the way it looks, every year the US has increasingly complete information upon an individual.

I'm waiting for my APCO report or whatever its called, and after I recieve my last paycheck from my previous employer, sometime next month, I plan on paying my full tuition fees, a years worth. So I'm then going to send an official letter headed document from the school confirming my place and the fees paid, along with the APCO report, so they can see my situation a little more clearly.

Also, I guess if one is famous or a celeb these legal infractions don't matter? Or is just because they're so rich they can hire the best lawyers to suppress these matters? Or a bit of both?

crg

Celebs still need a waiver just like anyone else would, but part of the waiver review process factors in the interests of the US people in having the person come over. The benefits of a major concert to the economy would likely outweigh a regular person's holiday trip.

bjohn

The England football team management would be busy organising visa's.