ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Thread Tools
 
Old Mar 6th 2014, 8:16 am
  #1  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 18
audi666 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Hi
I have a caution for road traffic act 1988 S 173(1)(a)
can someone please advice if i need visa or can apply for esta.

Thank you.
audi666 is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 11:18 am
  #2  
crg
American Expat
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,598
crg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Originally Posted by audi666
Hi
I have a caution for road traffic act 1988 S 173(1)(a)
can someone please advice if i need visa or can apply for esta.

Thank you.
Forgery is almost certainly a CIMT. People with a CIMT arrest must answer yes to the question.
crg is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 11:27 am
  #3  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 18
audi666 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

I didn't forge. My caution was for 'intent to misrepresent'.
Will it still be cimt?
audi666 is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 11:37 am
  #4  
crg
American Expat
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,598
crg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Originally Posted by audi666
I didn't forge. My caution was for 'intent to misrepresent'.
Will it still be cimt?
From the wording of the offense, it appears to be a CIMT.

(1)A person who, with intent to deceive—

(a)forges, alters or uses a document or other thing to which this section applies, or

(b)lends to, or allows to be used by, any other person a document or other thing to which this section applies, or

(c)makes or has in his possession any document or other thing so closely resembling a document or other thing to which this section applies as to be calculated to deceive,

is guilty of an offence.
crg is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 11:54 am
  #5  
Often not so civil...
 
civilservant's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: The Boonies, GA
Posts: 9,561
civilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Originally Posted by audi666
I didn't forge. My caution was for 'intent to misrepresent'.
Will it still be cimt?
Yes, in my opinion - a misrepresentation is an attempt at deception.
civilservant is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 12:27 pm
  #6  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 18
audi666 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Thanks.
So I have to apply for visa.
Do I have to get waivers of ineligibility?
audi666 is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 12:29 pm
  #7  
Often not so civil...
 
civilservant's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: The Boonies, GA
Posts: 9,561
civilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

In my opinion you are not elligable for the VWP no, which means that you will need a visa to travel. As to a waiver, that depends on several factors - your age at the time of the offence, what the maximum sentence for that specific offence could be etc.

You should also be aware that the US Government are currently conducting a review with regard to their policy on UK Police Cautions. Until that is complete no application for a visa which involves such a caution will be adjudicated - this has been ongoing for several months and there is, as yet, no indication on when it might be completed.
civilservant is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 12:32 pm
  #8  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 18
audi666 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

I was 23 at that time back in 2003.
So it seems I could be waiting for awhile to get a visa.
audi666 is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 5:48 pm
  #9  
crg
American Expat
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,598
crg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Can you get a caution for something that could carry more than a one year sentence? If not, then the single petty offense exception would kick in and no waiver would be required. The same doesn't apply to drug offenses.
crg is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 5:50 pm
  #10  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 18
audi666 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Thank you for very much for your advice. I have no idea what would be maximum sentence though.
audi666 is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 5:56 pm
  #11  
Often not so civil...
 
civilservant's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: The Boonies, GA
Posts: 9,561
civilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond reputecivilservant has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

You certainly can - Criminal damage, arson, sexual assault, the list goes on...

This is the whole reason for the review.
civilservant is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 5:57 pm
  #12  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 18
audi666 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

I am totally lost...
Will it be better to get advice from a lawyer. If so any recommendations please?
audi666 is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 7:58 pm
  #13  
crg
American Expat
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,598
crg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond reputecrg has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Originally Posted by civilservant
You certainly can - Criminal damage, arson, sexual assault, the list goes on...

This is the whole reason for the review.
They'd give a caution for arson or sexual assault? I'm sure the victims are thrilled...
crg is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 8:18 pm
  #14  
MODERATOR
 
Noorah101's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 58,679
Noorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond reputeNoorah101 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Originally Posted by audi666
I am totally lost...
Apply for a B-2 visa. Include a scan of your police certificate and any court documents showing resolution of the case, when you send in the online application.

Rene
Noorah101 is offline  
Old Mar 6th 2014, 8:24 pm
  #15  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 18
audi666 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: ESTA- Caution (Road traffic act)

Hi
I am waiting for my acro police certificate. Is that sufficient?
I didn't go to court so I don't have any other documents.
audi666 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.