employment based green card
Apr 22nd 2003, 4:32 am
#1
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employment based green card
So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card in
the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I dont
want to leave it all for the end.
So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in the
US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a masters
part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting some
programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances? Please ask
me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
Thanks,
--CS
the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I dont
want to leave it all for the end.
So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in the
US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a masters
part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting some
programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances? Please ask
me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
Thanks,
--CS
Apr 22nd 2003, 1:53 pm
#2
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Re: employment based green card
5 years left on your H1B may seem like a lot of time, but with respect to
obtaining an employment-based GC, it's not that much time because the
process takes so long. How long depends on your location but typically it
takes 2-3 years and if you get laid off during the process you have to start
over (there are exceptions). Furthermore, a new labor certification process
called "PERM" may replace the current process as early as this fall, and if
that happens it may reduce your chances of being granted a GC (although it
promises to make the process lightning-fast). The bottomline is that if you
want the GC, you should consult a lawyer ASAP to get the process started.
Whether you bought a house or not does not have any bearing on your
employment-based GC. What matters is whether you can make a persuasive case
that the company could not find a suitable American worker for your
position, the legitimacy and stability of the company you are working for,
and your professional qualifications -- which is based on your education,
experience, and skills.
The first thing to do is to ask your company if they would sponsor you --
that entails providing time, information and money towards the application
process (some people make a deal with the company to pay for the application
process with their own money). If the company is willing, then find a good
immigration lawyer (ask around or check www.AILA.org for a referral) and
have a consultation with the lawyer to assess your situation and to begin
the application process.
--
John
[email protected] (remove the pachyderm)
"CS" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card in
> the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I dont
> want to leave it all for the end.
> So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in the
> US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a masters
> part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting some
> programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
> house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances? Please
ask
> me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
> Thanks,
> --CS
obtaining an employment-based GC, it's not that much time because the
process takes so long. How long depends on your location but typically it
takes 2-3 years and if you get laid off during the process you have to start
over (there are exceptions). Furthermore, a new labor certification process
called "PERM" may replace the current process as early as this fall, and if
that happens it may reduce your chances of being granted a GC (although it
promises to make the process lightning-fast). The bottomline is that if you
want the GC, you should consult a lawyer ASAP to get the process started.
Whether you bought a house or not does not have any bearing on your
employment-based GC. What matters is whether you can make a persuasive case
that the company could not find a suitable American worker for your
position, the legitimacy and stability of the company you are working for,
and your professional qualifications -- which is based on your education,
experience, and skills.
The first thing to do is to ask your company if they would sponsor you --
that entails providing time, information and money towards the application
process (some people make a deal with the company to pay for the application
process with their own money). If the company is willing, then find a good
immigration lawyer (ask around or check www.AILA.org for a referral) and
have a consultation with the lawyer to assess your situation and to begin
the application process.
--
John
[email protected] (remove the pachyderm)
"CS" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card in
> the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I dont
> want to leave it all for the end.
> So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in the
> US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a masters
> part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting some
> programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
> house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances? Please
ask
> me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
> Thanks,
> --CS
Apr 22nd 2003, 2:34 pm
#3
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Re: employment based green card
In these market conditions, it is difficult for a number of companies to
convince the Dept of Labor that some skills are just not available locally,
and that they have to sponsor an alien for that job on a permanent basis. It
is not impossible, it is just difficult. You could find out certain areas of
technology where there is a shortage of skilled labor, and get a certificate
in those areas (Linux? .NET? just throwing in some thoughts), and use that
as a convincing case. Not that you have to work in those areas all the time,
just getting certified is enough to show that you have the skills that are
in short supply. Using Java/J2EE etc. is useless, skills in these areas are
swarming the unemployment office. You need to work out a niche area. Once
you get past Labor certification, rest of it is not very difficult.
With regards to time, I don't think 5 years is "plenty" of time, given the
current state of BCIS and its progress over the last few months. You have a
decent amount of time, and if you push things fast enough, you could build a
buffer to accomodate any unexpected delays, in addition to "expected"
delays, that is! ;-)
Also, there will always be some paperwork that you have to get from your
home-country, and those things can take up a long time and kill all the
margin you have.
just my 2 cents,
- R
convince the Dept of Labor that some skills are just not available locally,
and that they have to sponsor an alien for that job on a permanent basis. It
is not impossible, it is just difficult. You could find out certain areas of
technology where there is a shortage of skilled labor, and get a certificate
in those areas (Linux? .NET? just throwing in some thoughts), and use that
as a convincing case. Not that you have to work in those areas all the time,
just getting certified is enough to show that you have the skills that are
in short supply. Using Java/J2EE etc. is useless, skills in these areas are
swarming the unemployment office. You need to work out a niche area. Once
you get past Labor certification, rest of it is not very difficult.
With regards to time, I don't think 5 years is "plenty" of time, given the
current state of BCIS and its progress over the last few months. You have a
decent amount of time, and if you push things fast enough, you could build a
buffer to accomodate any unexpected delays, in addition to "expected"
delays, that is! ;-)
Also, there will always be some paperwork that you have to get from your
home-country, and those things can take up a long time and kill all the
margin you have.
just my 2 cents,
- R
Apr 22nd 2003, 3:12 pm
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Re: employment based green card
thanks for the advice.
Just as a quick note I am .NET developer (used to be java), with almost one
year of pure .NET experience (C#) and I am probably going to be getting some
sort of .NET certification within the next few months, do you think that
will make an strong case? I do know that in my area if you ask for a .NET
developer with more than six months of real world experience you get my
resume, one of my coworkers and probably my brothers and thats it! there
really isnt many more .NET developers here with actual experience.
"Rex Lustrous" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In these market conditions, it is difficult for a number of companies to
> convince the Dept of Labor that some skills are just not available
locally,
> and that they have to sponsor an alien for that job on a permanent basis.
It
> is not impossible, it is just difficult. You could find out certain areas
of
> technology where there is a shortage of skilled labor, and get a
certificate
> in those areas (Linux? .NET? just throwing in some thoughts), and use that
> as a convincing case. Not that you have to work in those areas all the
time,
> just getting certified is enough to show that you have the skills that are
> in short supply. Using Java/J2EE etc. is useless, skills in these areas
are
> swarming the unemployment office. You need to work out a niche area. Once
> you get past Labor certification, rest of it is not very difficult.
> With regards to time, I don't think 5 years is "plenty" of time, given the
> current state of BCIS and its progress over the last few months. You have
a
> decent amount of time, and if you push things fast enough, you could build
a
> buffer to accomodate any unexpected delays, in addition to "expected"
> delays, that is! ;-)
> Also, there will always be some paperwork that you have to get from your
> home-country, and those things can take up a long time and kill all the
> margin you have.
> just my 2 cents,
> - R
Just as a quick note I am .NET developer (used to be java), with almost one
year of pure .NET experience (C#) and I am probably going to be getting some
sort of .NET certification within the next few months, do you think that
will make an strong case? I do know that in my area if you ask for a .NET
developer with more than six months of real world experience you get my
resume, one of my coworkers and probably my brothers and thats it! there
really isnt many more .NET developers here with actual experience.
"Rex Lustrous" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In these market conditions, it is difficult for a number of companies to
> convince the Dept of Labor that some skills are just not available
locally,
> and that they have to sponsor an alien for that job on a permanent basis.
It
> is not impossible, it is just difficult. You could find out certain areas
of
> technology where there is a shortage of skilled labor, and get a
certificate
> in those areas (Linux? .NET? just throwing in some thoughts), and use that
> as a convincing case. Not that you have to work in those areas all the
time,
> just getting certified is enough to show that you have the skills that are
> in short supply. Using Java/J2EE etc. is useless, skills in these areas
are
> swarming the unemployment office. You need to work out a niche area. Once
> you get past Labor certification, rest of it is not very difficult.
> With regards to time, I don't think 5 years is "plenty" of time, given the
> current state of BCIS and its progress over the last few months. You have
a
> decent amount of time, and if you push things fast enough, you could build
a
> buffer to accomodate any unexpected delays, in addition to "expected"
> delays, that is! ;-)
> Also, there will always be some paperwork that you have to get from your
> home-country, and those things can take up a long time and kill all the
> margin you have.
> just my 2 cents,
> - R
Apr 22nd 2003, 3:13 pm
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Re: employment based green card
Thanks for the advice.
I wonder if it will be better to wait for PERM to be in place, I dont want
my application getting stuck on a processed tts being fadded out.
"John" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 5 years left on your H1B may seem like a lot of time, but with respect to
> obtaining an employment-based GC, it's not that much time because the
> process takes so long. How long depends on your location but typically it
> takes 2-3 years and if you get laid off during the process you have to
start
> over (there are exceptions). Furthermore, a new labor certification
process
> called "PERM" may replace the current process as early as this fall, and
if
> that happens it may reduce your chances of being granted a GC (although it
> promises to make the process lightning-fast). The bottomline is that if
you
> want the GC, you should consult a lawyer ASAP to get the process started.
> Whether you bought a house or not does not have any bearing on your
> employment-based GC. What matters is whether you can make a persuasive
case
> that the company could not find a suitable American worker for your
> position, the legitimacy and stability of the company you are working for,
> and your professional qualifications -- which is based on your education,
> experience, and skills.
> The first thing to do is to ask your company if they would sponsor you --
> that entails providing time, information and money towards the application
> process (some people make a deal with the company to pay for the
application
> process with their own money). If the company is willing, then find a
good
> immigration lawyer (ask around or check www.AILA.org for a referral) and
> have a consultation with the lawyer to assess your situation and to begin
> the application process.
> --
> John
> [email protected] (remove the pachyderm)
> "CS" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card
in
> > the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I
dont
> > want to leave it all for the end.
> > So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in
the
> > US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a masters
> > part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting
some
> > programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
> > house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances? Please
> ask
> > me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --CS
I wonder if it will be better to wait for PERM to be in place, I dont want
my application getting stuck on a processed tts being fadded out.
"John" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 5 years left on your H1B may seem like a lot of time, but with respect to
> obtaining an employment-based GC, it's not that much time because the
> process takes so long. How long depends on your location but typically it
> takes 2-3 years and if you get laid off during the process you have to
start
> over (there are exceptions). Furthermore, a new labor certification
process
> called "PERM" may replace the current process as early as this fall, and
if
> that happens it may reduce your chances of being granted a GC (although it
> promises to make the process lightning-fast). The bottomline is that if
you
> want the GC, you should consult a lawyer ASAP to get the process started.
> Whether you bought a house or not does not have any bearing on your
> employment-based GC. What matters is whether you can make a persuasive
case
> that the company could not find a suitable American worker for your
> position, the legitimacy and stability of the company you are working for,
> and your professional qualifications -- which is based on your education,
> experience, and skills.
> The first thing to do is to ask your company if they would sponsor you --
> that entails providing time, information and money towards the application
> process (some people make a deal with the company to pay for the
application
> process with their own money). If the company is willing, then find a
good
> immigration lawyer (ask around or check www.AILA.org for a referral) and
> have a consultation with the lawyer to assess your situation and to begin
> the application process.
> --
> John
> [email protected] (remove the pachyderm)
> "CS" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card
in
> > the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I
dont
> > want to leave it all for the end.
> > So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in
the
> > US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a masters
> > part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting
some
> > programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
> > house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances? Please
> ask
> > me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --CS
Apr 22nd 2003, 4:36 pm
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Re: employment based green card
> "CS" wrote...
> I wonder if it will be better to wait for PERM to be in place...
No, because you will have the option of switching from the current method to
PERM (without losing your place in line, a.k.a. "priority date"), but once
PERM begins you have no choice but to go with PERM.
You, your company and your lawyer can decide whether it's better to go with
the slow but (supposedly) more tolerant method, or go with PERM, which is
supposed to be much more stringent (i.e., reject more applicants). That is,
if you apply early enough. If you wait until PERM is already enacted, you
don't have that choice.
Hope this helps,
-John
[email protected] (remove the pachyderm)
> I wonder if it will be better to wait for PERM to be in place...
No, because you will have the option of switching from the current method to
PERM (without losing your place in line, a.k.a. "priority date"), but once
PERM begins you have no choice but to go with PERM.
You, your company and your lawyer can decide whether it's better to go with
the slow but (supposedly) more tolerant method, or go with PERM, which is
supposed to be much more stringent (i.e., reject more applicants). That is,
if you apply early enough. If you wait until PERM is already enacted, you
don't have that choice.
Hope this helps,
-John
[email protected] (remove the pachyderm)
Apr 23rd 2003, 2:35 am
#7
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Re: employment based green card
Five years is adequate time but it certainly is not lots of time. You should
start right away. Get a good attorney and see if your company will pay some
if not all of the cost. This will support your case. Can you qualify under
the national interest waiver or extraordinary ability categories. This would
make life interesting. I am also curious to know who gives a non permanent
resident a mortgage - please let me know more about how you are going to
finance your house. I am sure other people in this group would like to share
your experience on house buying.
Good luck,
Norman
"CS" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card in
> the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I dont
> want to leave it all for the end.
> So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in the
> US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a masters
> part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting some
> programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
> house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances? Please
ask
> me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
> Thanks,
> --CS
start right away. Get a good attorney and see if your company will pay some
if not all of the cost. This will support your case. Can you qualify under
the national interest waiver or extraordinary ability categories. This would
make life interesting. I am also curious to know who gives a non permanent
resident a mortgage - please let me know more about how you are going to
finance your house. I am sure other people in this group would like to share
your experience on house buying.
Good luck,
Norman
"CS" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card in
> the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I dont
> want to leave it all for the end.
> So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in the
> US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a masters
> part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting some
> programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
> house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances? Please
ask
> me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
> Thanks,
> --CS
Apr 23rd 2003, 1:24 pm
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Re: employment based green card
I actually have no even tried to get the mortgage yet but my brother has a
mortgage and he had no problem applying for it, he is as well an H1B. A
friend did tell me I might have problems since I am not a PR but I didnt
take him seriously since my brother got it easily, I will have to ask him
how he did it.
"Norman Forde" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Five years is adequate time but it certainly is not lots of time. You
should
> start right away. Get a good attorney and see if your company will pay
some
> if not all of the cost. This will support your case. Can you qualify under
> the national interest waiver or extraordinary ability categories. This
would
> make life interesting. I am also curious to know who gives a non permanent
> resident a mortgage - please let me know more about how you are going to
> finance your house. I am sure other people in this group would like to
share
> your experience on house buying.
> Good luck,
> Norman
> "CS" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card
in
> > the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I
dont
> > want to leave it all for the end.
> > So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in
the
> > US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a masters
> > part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting
some
> > programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
> > house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances? Please
> ask
> > me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --CS
> >
> >
mortgage and he had no problem applying for it, he is as well an H1B. A
friend did tell me I might have problems since I am not a PR but I didnt
take him seriously since my brother got it easily, I will have to ask him
how he did it.
"Norman Forde" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Five years is adequate time but it certainly is not lots of time. You
should
> start right away. Get a good attorney and see if your company will pay
some
> if not all of the cost. This will support your case. Can you qualify under
> the national interest waiver or extraordinary ability categories. This
would
> make life interesting. I am also curious to know who gives a non permanent
> resident a mortgage - please let me know more about how you are going to
> finance your house. I am sure other people in this group would like to
share
> your experience on house buying.
> Good luck,
> Norman
> "CS" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card
in
> > the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I
dont
> > want to leave it all for the end.
> > So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in
the
> > US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a masters
> > part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting
some
> > programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
> > house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances? Please
> ask
> > me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --CS
> >
> >
Apr 23rd 2003, 2:32 pm
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Re: employment based green card
I just asked my brother and he said the only things they checked were his
salary and credit history, they never asked him if he was a permanent
resident or not.
"CS" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I actually have no even tried to get the mortgage yet but my brother has a
> mortgage and he had no problem applying for it, he is as well an H1B. A
> friend did tell me I might have problems since I am not a PR but I didnt
> take him seriously since my brother got it easily, I will have to ask him
> how he did it.
> "Norman Forde" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Five years is adequate time but it certainly is not lots of time. You
> should
> > start right away. Get a good attorney and see if your company will pay
> some
> > if not all of the cost. This will support your case. Can you qualify
under
> > the national interest waiver or extraordinary ability categories. This
> would
> > make life interesting. I am also curious to know who gives a non
permanent
> > resident a mortgage - please let me know more about how you are going to
> > finance your house. I am sure other people in this group would like to
> share
> > your experience on house buying.
> > Good luck,
> > Norman
> >
> >
> >
> > "CS" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card
> in
> > > the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I
> dont
> > > want to leave it all for the end.
> > > So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in
> the
> > > US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a
masters
> > > part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting
> some
> > > programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
> > > house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances?
Please
> > ask
> > > me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --CS
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
salary and credit history, they never asked him if he was a permanent
resident or not.
"CS" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I actually have no even tried to get the mortgage yet but my brother has a
> mortgage and he had no problem applying for it, he is as well an H1B. A
> friend did tell me I might have problems since I am not a PR but I didnt
> take him seriously since my brother got it easily, I will have to ask him
> how he did it.
> "Norman Forde" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Five years is adequate time but it certainly is not lots of time. You
> should
> > start right away. Get a good attorney and see if your company will pay
> some
> > if not all of the cost. This will support your case. Can you qualify
under
> > the national interest waiver or extraordinary ability categories. This
> would
> > make life interesting. I am also curious to know who gives a non
permanent
> > resident a mortgage - please let me know more about how you are going to
> > finance your house. I am sure other people in this group would like to
> share
> > your experience on house buying.
> > Good luck,
> > Norman
> >
> >
> >
> > "CS" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > So I am thinking now that maybe I should try applying for a green card
> in
> > > the next year or so, I have around 5 years left of my H1B left, but I
> dont
> > > want to leave it all for the end.
> > > So being a software developer, bachellors degree from a university in
> the
> > > US, having lived here for about 6 years now, currently getting a
masters
> > > part time, what can I do to help my chances? I know I will be getting
> some
> > > programming related certifications soon, also I might be buying a
> > > house/towne home soon as well. What hurts, what helps my chances?
Please
> > ask
> > > me whatever info I forgot to add and I shall add it.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --CS
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
Apr 23rd 2003, 9:50 pm
#10
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Re: employment based green card
>Subject: Re: employment based green card
>From: "CS" casolorz@hot[rem]mail.com
>Date: 4/23/03 10:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>I just asked my brother and he said the only things they checked were his
>salary and credit history, they never asked him if he was a permanent
>resident or not.
You don't need a green card to buy a house.
>From: "CS" casolorz@hot[rem]mail.com
>Date: 4/23/03 10:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>I just asked my brother and he said the only things they checked were his
>salary and credit history, they never asked him if he was a permanent
>resident or not.
You don't need a green card to buy a house.
