Do you carry your greencard?
Apr 14th 2006, 12:49 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
"maris" <member3174@british_expats.com> wrote in message
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| > OMG I wouldn't dream of carrying the original - only a photocopy!
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| > Yes, I know we're supposed to carry them, but the trouble resulting
| > from losing it or having it stolen would be just too much.
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| > Have lived here nearly five years and have never been asked for it
| > except at POE.
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| I carried my greencard with me all the time UNTIL i lost it,, my purse
| got stolen and my gc was in my wallet inside the purse, when i get the
| replacement card, im not taking it anywhere unless it is absolutely
| necessary! NO MORE! im just gonna make a copy of it or take a copy of
| the welcome to the US letter.
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Lots of guys returning at the Southern Border thought they only needed a
drivers license and having the actual I-551 is not really necessary.
Obviously these people didn't know when a green card is necessary.
Do you know what happens in such cases?
I hope you do!
news:[email protected] m...
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| > OMG I wouldn't dream of carrying the original - only a photocopy!
| >
| > Yes, I know we're supposed to carry them, but the trouble resulting
| > from losing it or having it stolen would be just too much.
| >
| > Have lived here nearly five years and have never been asked for it
| > except at POE.
|
| I carried my greencard with me all the time UNTIL i lost it,, my purse
| got stolen and my gc was in my wallet inside the purse, when i get the
| replacement card, im not taking it anywhere unless it is absolutely
| necessary! NO MORE! im just gonna make a copy of it or take a copy of
| the welcome to the US letter.
|
| --
| Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Lots of guys returning at the Southern Border thought they only needed a
drivers license and having the actual I-551 is not really necessary.
Obviously these people didn't know when a green card is necessary.
Do you know what happens in such cases?
I hope you do!
Apr 21st 2006, 6:37 am
#152
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
Originally Posted by nettlebed
While not disagreeing with you, but wishing to play Devil's advocate, I suspect that in legal proceedings a statement of "I didn't have it on me because I was taking my normal morning Forrest, but it was in my wallet in the next room" is more likely to go down well than "Nah, I never carry it because I thought it would be a pain if I lost it".
"Carry it at all times" does seem to me to mean whenever you leave the house. Whilst some have joked that this should also include places like the shower etc. I think any sensible interpretation would mean leaving the confines of your home.
From the posts, its still seems a 50:50 split between "yes I do" and "no I don't".
Has anyone changed their view/habits as a result of the discussion?
I wonder ........
Apr 21st 2006, 1:20 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
I've always carried mine with me in my purse / wallet. Only ever shown it as ID when entering the USCIS and at the airport.
Apr 21st 2006, 2:46 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
Originally Posted by Jememennie
I've always carried mine with me in my purse / wallet. Only ever shown it as ID when entering the USCIS and at the airport.
The ironic thing about the GC is that it is not a particularly useful form of ID. For example, you could not use a GC as the necessary form of ID when signing a notarized document here in Arizona since it lacks the necessary physical description requirement. When you consider how difficult it was to acquire the bloody thing compared with an accepted document (like a driving license), it's all really a little stoopid
Apr 21st 2006, 5:09 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
Originally Posted by fatbrit
The ironic thing about the GC is that it is not a particularly useful form of ID. For example, you could not use a GC as the necessary form of ID when signing a notarized document here in Arizona since it lacks the necessary physical description requirement. When you consider how difficult it was to acquire the bloody thing compared with an accepted document (like a driving license), it's all really a little stoopid
Apr 23rd 2006, 10:30 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
Originally Posted by fatbrit
The ironic thing about the GC is that it is not a particularly useful form of ID. For example, you could not use a GC as the necessary form of ID when signing a notarized document here in Arizona since it lacks the necessary physical description requirement. When you consider how difficult it was to acquire the bloody thing compared with an accepted document (like a driving license), it's all really a little stoopid
Jun 1st 2006, 4:30 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
Originally Posted by Matthew Udall
The follow up question is something I asked for clarification to make sure I was answering honestly for a client. You are a smart fellow and I’m sure you can look at the questions on the N-400 and figure out some follow up questions you might ask if you were helping someone fill it out or if you were a CIS officer.
Is this really a sincere question, or are you and Rita just having a little fun now?
Is this really a sincere question, or are you and Rita just having a little fun now?
Jun 1st 2006, 6:31 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
Originally Posted by bionomique
I've read this entire thread, and I am just wondering if when an alien requests a replacement green card to be issued (let's say that it was lost, for example) naturally, USCIS *knows* that for a time, until a new card was in the alien's hands, he or she was obviously not able to carry it with them or have it in their possession "at all times". So under those circumstances, are you suggesting that at N400 review time, they should all note that they haven't always carried it, otherwise they are clearly ineligible for Naturalisation. And if they aren't honest about having been without the GC for at lesat a short amount of time, then isn't USCIS choosing not to enforce it's own regulation. I mean, if lying on the N-400 is reason to deny, and USCIS clearly has proof on hand for some of those cases, would it not be equally wrong for the USCIS folks not to deny them?
On this basis anybody who has gone trough the CPR process is by definition subject to fine/imprisonment and not able to obtain Citizenship until at least 5 years have passed and they can show good morale behaviour.
Jun 1st 2006, 6:37 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
Originally Posted by Boiler
Horribly logical.
On this basis anybody who has gone trough the CPR process is by definition subject to fine/imprisonment and not able to obtain Citizenship until at least 5 years have passed and they can show good morale behaviour.
On this basis anybody who has gone trough the CPR process is by definition subject to fine/imprisonment and not able to obtain Citizenship until at least 5 years have passed and they can show good morale behaviour.
Jun 1st 2006, 7:02 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
Originally Posted by bionomique
I've read this entire thread, and I am just wondering if when an alien requests a replacement green card to be issued (let's say that it was lost, for example) naturally, USCIS *knows* that for a time, until a new card was in the alien's hands, he or she was obviously not able to carry it with them or have it in their possession "at all times". So under those circumstances, are you suggesting that at N400 review time, they should all note that they haven't always carried it, otherwise they are clearly ineligible for Naturalisation. And if they aren't honest about having been without the GC for at lesat a short amount of time, then isn't USCIS choosing not to enforce it's own regulation. I mean, if lying on the N-400 is reason to deny, and USCIS clearly has proof on hand for some of those cases, would it not be equally wrong for the USCIS folks not to deny them?
Jun 1st 2006, 7:04 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
Originally Posted by Folinskyinla
The violation is in the "wilful" failure.
Jun 1st 2006, 7:10 pm
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Re: Do you carry your greencard?
Originally Posted by Folinskyinla
The violation is in the "wilful" failure.
Ok. But "willful" failure to disclose, or "willful" failure to have it on your person?
