Do inspectors scan green card when leaving US??
Jun 22nd 2005, 8:45 pm
#16
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Re: Do inspectors scan green card when leaving US??
Originally Posted by fkie4
thanx for your info. one more question.... what if they find out that i
lie? i have been out of country for 1 year and 9 months... so if i tell
them i have been away for 5 months, what would happen? i know they will
take away my green card and let me fly back, but do they ban me from
entering the country in the future? or even put me in jail?
lie? i have been out of country for 1 year and 9 months... so if i tell
them i have been away for 5 months, what would happen? i know they will
take away my green card and let me fly back, but do they ban me from
entering the country in the future? or even put me in jail?
Jun 22nd 2005, 10:02 pm
#17
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 79
Re: Do inspectors scan green card when leaving US??
Originally Posted by Joe Feise
careerlady wrote on 6/20/2005 11:12:
>>what is the effective date fo this law?
>>Joe Feise wrote:
>>>[email protected] wrote on 06/18/05 22:42:
>>>>I am wondering if a green card holder is leaving US, do inspector
>>>>scan
>>>>the green card? also, do they know when a green card holder
>>>>departs?
>>>While there is no inspection, the airlines scan the GC or enter the
>>>information manually
>>>and submit it electronically to the CBP. They are required by law
>>>(INA 231) to do this.
>>>So, they know when a PR departs.
>>>-Joe
>>>--
>>>I am not a lawyer.
>>>For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
>
>
> I travel abroad regularly on business and the airlines have never once
> asked to see my green card when I have departed from the US.
>
Your passport is good enough. They get all the information they need from that.
They do need to report the A# as well, though, and it may be that they already
have it in their computers.
In any case, the airlines are required by law to provide this information to the
authorities, and they do. For example, that's how the authorities know
beforehand if someone on the no-fly list is on the plane, and it allows them to
divert planes to check such people out.
As long as I can remember, there has been a requirement to give the travel
manifest to legacy INS, but before 9/11, that was a) in paper form, and b) US
citizens and LPRs weren't on that list. Now everybody's data is transmitted
electronically to CBP.
-Joe
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
>>what is the effective date fo this law?
>>Joe Feise wrote:
>>>[email protected] wrote on 06/18/05 22:42:
>>>>I am wondering if a green card holder is leaving US, do inspector
>>>>scan
>>>>the green card? also, do they know when a green card holder
>>>>departs?
>>>While there is no inspection, the airlines scan the GC or enter the
>>>information manually
>>>and submit it electronically to the CBP. They are required by law
>>>(INA 231) to do this.
>>>So, they know when a PR departs.
>>>-Joe
>>>--
>>>I am not a lawyer.
>>>For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
>
>
> I travel abroad regularly on business and the airlines have never once
> asked to see my green card when I have departed from the US.
>
Your passport is good enough. They get all the information they need from that.
They do need to report the A# as well, though, and it may be that they already
have it in their computers.
In any case, the airlines are required by law to provide this information to the
authorities, and they do. For example, that's how the authorities know
beforehand if someone on the no-fly list is on the plane, and it allows them to
divert planes to check such people out.
As long as I can remember, there has been a requirement to give the travel
manifest to legacy INS, but before 9/11, that was a) in paper form, and b) US
citizens and LPRs weren't on that list. Now everybody's data is transmitted
electronically to CBP.
-Joe
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
Jun 22nd 2005, 11:14 pm
#18
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Re: Do inspectors scan green card when leaving US??
IN THE YEAR 2525 wrote on 06/22/05 15:02:
>>Your passport is good enough. They get all the information they need
>>from that.
>>They do need to report the A# as well, though, and it may be that they
>>already
>>have it in their computers.
>>In any case, the airlines are required by law to provide this
>>information to the
>>authorities, and they do. For example, that's how the authorities know
>>beforehand if someone on the no-fly list is on the plane, and it
>>allows them to
>>divert planes to check such people out.
>>As long as I can remember, there has been a requirement to give the
>>travel
>>manifest to legacy INS, but before 9/11, that was a) in paper form,
>>and b) US
>>citizens and LPRs weren't on that list. Now everybody's data is
>>transmitted
>>electronically to CBP.
>>-Joe
>>--
>>I am not a lawyer.
>>For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
>
>
> your guessing.
>
Nope. This has been stated repeatedly in the press after such incidents. There
is also some information about it on the CBP and other government websites.
And in particular in the EU, with stricter privacy laws, there have been lots of
complaints about the US authorities having access to all traveler information,
including the number of the creditcard the ticket was purchased with...
-Joe
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
>>Your passport is good enough. They get all the information they need
>>from that.
>>They do need to report the A# as well, though, and it may be that they
>>already
>>have it in their computers.
>>In any case, the airlines are required by law to provide this
>>information to the
>>authorities, and they do. For example, that's how the authorities know
>>beforehand if someone on the no-fly list is on the plane, and it
>>allows them to
>>divert planes to check such people out.
>>As long as I can remember, there has been a requirement to give the
>>travel
>>manifest to legacy INS, but before 9/11, that was a) in paper form,
>>and b) US
>>citizens and LPRs weren't on that list. Now everybody's data is
>>transmitted
>>electronically to CBP.
>>-Joe
>>--
>>I am not a lawyer.
>>For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
>
>
> your guessing.
>
Nope. This has been stated repeatedly in the press after such incidents. There
is also some information about it on the CBP and other government websites.
And in particular in the EU, with stricter privacy laws, there have been lots of
complaints about the US authorities having access to all traveler information,
including the number of the creditcard the ticket was purchased with...
-Joe
--
I am not a lawyer.
For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
Jun 22nd 2005, 11:58 pm
#19
American Expat
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,598
Re: Do inspectors scan green card when leaving US??
Originally Posted by otoro
if they do find out you lie, you would be banned (but how many years?).
