Denied at POE, any experience?
Jan 28th 2004, 4:52 am
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Denied at POE, any experience?
A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
stories. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
PAULS
weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
stories. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
PAULS
Jan 28th 2004, 7:10 am
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Re: Denied at POE, any experience?
"PAULS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
> Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
> friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
> stories. Thanks in advance.
I don't personally know anyone, but it's certainly possible. You'll
find plenty of examples in this newsgroup. A visa does not guarantee
entry to the USA - it just allows you to go to a Port of Entry and
ask to be admitted in the status specified on the visa. The decision
about whether or not to admit you is always made by the inspector at
the Port of Entry.
If someone has a valid visa they will normally be admitted unless
the Inspector has some reason to believe that they are abusing the
visa or likely to breach the conditions of admission. If someone
with a B-2 visa tries to re-enter immediately after leaving, they
might be questioned. If they talk about a job they are going to do
while in the country they probably won't be admitted. If they talk
about a boyfriend in the country, they are likely to be asked for
evidence that they will be leaving.
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> A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
> Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
> friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
> stories. Thanks in advance.
I don't personally know anyone, but it's certainly possible. You'll
find plenty of examples in this newsgroup. A visa does not guarantee
entry to the USA - it just allows you to go to a Port of Entry and
ask to be admitted in the status specified on the visa. The decision
about whether or not to admit you is always made by the inspector at
the Port of Entry.
If someone has a valid visa they will normally be admitted unless
the Inspector has some reason to believe that they are abusing the
visa or likely to breach the conditions of admission. If someone
with a B-2 visa tries to re-enter immediately after leaving, they
might be questioned. If they talk about a job they are going to do
while in the country they probably won't be admitted. If they talk
about a boyfriend in the country, they are likely to be asked for
evidence that they will be leaving.
Jan 28th 2004, 5:36 pm
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Re: Denied at POE, any experience?
your friend has got nothing to fear, unless she mis-represented or cheated in her application.
Jan 29th 2004, 12:19 am
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Re: Denied at POE, any experience?
My ex-clients 21 old daughter was on her way to Miami second time in her
life last October and she was turned back at the Miami airport. She comes
from Finland with no real ties to her home country + she has a boyfriend in
Florida. She had NOT done any research on entering the US when you have a
significant other in the country and when she was asked why she came to US,
she told the truth that she has a boyfriend there and that she was going to
visit him for a few months. Now they are going through the K-1 path.
JG
"PAULS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
> Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
> friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
> stories. Thanks in advance.
> Regards,
> PAULS
life last October and she was turned back at the Miami airport. She comes
from Finland with no real ties to her home country + she has a boyfriend in
Florida. She had NOT done any research on entering the US when you have a
significant other in the country and when she was asked why she came to US,
she told the truth that she has a boyfriend there and that she was going to
visit him for a few months. Now they are going through the K-1 path.
JG
"PAULS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
> Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
> friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
> stories. Thanks in advance.
> Regards,
> PAULS
Jan 29th 2004, 5:13 pm
#5
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Re: Denied at POE, any experience?
Originally posted by Pauls
A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
stories. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
PAULS
A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
stories. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
PAULS
How about giving some additional information. What country is she a citizen of? If it's a visa waiver country, why did she get an actual visa? How many times has she been to the US, how long did she stay? Did she overstay? How long ago was her last visit? What does she do in her home country? How long does she plan to stay? How much money does she have?
Jan 30th 2004, 5:40 pm
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Re: Denied at POE, any experience?
I have been denied at POE, but only stayed about 4 weeks in my home country
(The Netherlands) after I had been in the US for a year (extended stay of 6
months), had no return ticket and no job, so can only blame myself.
The interview was not plesant at all, they take your fingerprints,
pictures, I felt like a criminal.
Marjan
"PAULS" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
> Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
> friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
> stories. Thanks in advance.
> Regards,
> PAULS
(The Netherlands) after I had been in the US for a year (extended stay of 6
months), had no return ticket and no job, so can only blame myself.
The interview was not plesant at all, they take your fingerprints,
pictures, I felt like a criminal.
Marjan
"PAULS" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
> Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
> friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
> stories. Thanks in advance.
> Regards,
> PAULS
Jan 30th 2004, 5:51 pm
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Re: Denied at POE, any experience?
The onus is on the applicant who has to show strong tie (job,
house/apartment lease, etc.) to his/her native country (in your case, The
Netherlands).
As far the immigration official is concerns, every visitor is a potential
illegal immigrant unless solid proof/evidence shows otherwise.
"Mardee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have been denied at POE, but only stayed about 4 weeks in my home
country
> (The Netherlands) after I had been in the US for a year (extended stay of
6
> months), had no return ticket and no job, so can only blame myself.
> The interview was not plesant at all, they take your fingerprints,
> pictures, I felt like a criminal.
> Marjan
> "PAULS" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
> news:[email protected]...
> > A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> > weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> > denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
> > Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
> > friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> > its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
> > stories. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > PAULS
house/apartment lease, etc.) to his/her native country (in your case, The
Netherlands).
As far the immigration official is concerns, every visitor is a potential
illegal immigrant unless solid proof/evidence shows otherwise.
"Mardee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have been denied at POE, but only stayed about 4 weeks in my home
country
> (The Netherlands) after I had been in the US for a year (extended stay of
6
> months), had no return ticket and no job, so can only blame myself.
> The interview was not plesant at all, they take your fingerprints,
> pictures, I felt like a criminal.
> Marjan
> "PAULS" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
> news:[email protected]...
> > A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> > weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> > denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
> > Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
> > friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> > its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
> > stories. Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > PAULS
Jan 30th 2004, 6:58 pm
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Re: Denied at POE, any experience?
Originally posted by Mardee
I have been denied at POE, but only stayed about 4 weeks in my home country
(The Netherlands) after I had been in the US for a year (extended stay of 6
months), had no return ticket and no job, so can only blame myself.
The interview was not plesant at all, they take your fingerprints,
pictures, I felt like a criminal.
Marjan
"PAULS" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
> Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
> friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
> stories. Thanks in advance.
> Regards,
> PAULS
I have been denied at POE, but only stayed about 4 weeks in my home country
(The Netherlands) after I had been in the US for a year (extended stay of 6
months), had no return ticket and no job, so can only blame myself.
The interview was not plesant at all, they take your fingerprints,
pictures, I felt like a criminal.
Marjan
"PAULS" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> A friend who's a little bit worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> weeks time and she heard some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> denied at the POE upon arrival and sent back home to their country.
> Anybody out there who experienced this or anybody you know, your
> friend, a friend of a friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> its true and what was the reason for denial. Please share your
> stories. Thanks in advance.
> Regards,
> PAULS
I'm guessing they were able to get you out of the country on a later flight the same day. If there wasn't another flight that day, you would have spent the night which is even more unpleasant because it usually involves cuffs, searches, transportation, and detention. I'm sure they didn't consider you dangerous, or a criminal, but they had procedures to follow.
Feb 4th 2004, 9:30 am
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Re: Denied at POE, any experience?
crg14624 <member20421@british_expats.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Originally posted by Pauls
> > A friend who's a little bit
> worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> > weeks time and she heard
> some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> > denied at the POE upon
> arrival and sent back home to their country.
> > Anybody out there who
> experienced this or anybody you know, your
> > friend, a friend of a
> friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> > its true and what was
> the reason for denial. Please share your
> > stories. Thanks in advance.
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > PAULS
>
> It's definetly true. The usual
> reasons for denial are for overstaying, being an intending immigrant,
> having the wrong visa for the purpose of the trip, expired passport,
> criminal history, fraud, intent to work, or past unlawful work.
>
> How
> about giving some additional information. What country is she a citizen
> of?
----->My friend is from the Philippines.
If it's a visa waiver country, why did she get an actual visa?
------>She got a multiple 10 years B1/B2 Visa back in ,97.
How
> many times has she been to the US,
----->She's been in the U.S. 3 times '97 , 2002 & 2003
how long did she stay?
----->She only stayed less than a month for each visits.
Did she
> overstay?
-----> No
How long ago was her last visit?
----->March 2003
What does she do in her home
> country?
-----> She's working for a local I.T. company
How long does she plan to stay?
-----> about 3 weeks
How much money does she have?
-----> No idea, but definitely not more than 10,000 Dollars
Thanks,
PAULS
> Originally posted by Pauls
> > A friend who's a little bit
> worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> > weeks time and she heard
> some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> > denied at the POE upon
> arrival and sent back home to their country.
> > Anybody out there who
> experienced this or anybody you know, your
> > friend, a friend of a
> friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> > its true and what was
> the reason for denial. Please share your
> > stories. Thanks in advance.
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > PAULS
>
> It's definetly true. The usual
> reasons for denial are for overstaying, being an intending immigrant,
> having the wrong visa for the purpose of the trip, expired passport,
> criminal history, fraud, intent to work, or past unlawful work.
>
> How
> about giving some additional information. What country is she a citizen
> of?
----->My friend is from the Philippines.
If it's a visa waiver country, why did she get an actual visa?
------>She got a multiple 10 years B1/B2 Visa back in ,97.
How
> many times has she been to the US,
----->She's been in the U.S. 3 times '97 , 2002 & 2003
how long did she stay?
----->She only stayed less than a month for each visits.
Did she
> overstay?
-----> No
How long ago was her last visit?
----->March 2003
What does she do in her home
> country?
-----> She's working for a local I.T. company
How long does she plan to stay?
-----> about 3 weeks
How much money does she have?
-----> No idea, but definitely not more than 10,000 Dollars
Thanks,
PAULS
Feb 4th 2004, 4:09 pm
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Re: Denied at POE, any experience?
Originally posted by Pauls
crg14624 <member20421@british_expats.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Originally posted by Pauls
> > A friend who's a little bit
> worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> > weeks time and she heard
> some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> > denied at the POE upon
> arrival and sent back home to their country.
> > Anybody out there who
> experienced this or anybody you know, your
> > friend, a friend of a
> friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> > its true and what was
> the reason for denial. Please share your
> > stories. Thanks in advance.
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > PAULS
>
> It's definetly true. The usual
> reasons for denial are for overstaying, being an intending immigrant,
> having the wrong visa for the purpose of the trip, expired passport,
> criminal history, fraud, intent to work, or past unlawful work.
>
> How
> about giving some additional information. What country is she a citizen
> of?
----->My friend is from the Philippines.
If it's a visa waiver country, why did she get an actual visa?
------>She got a multiple 10 years B1/B2 Visa back in ,97.
How
> many times has she been to the US,
----->She's been in the U.S. 3 times '97 , 2002 & 2003
how long did she stay?
----->She only stayed less than a month for each visits.
Did she
> overstay?
-----> No
How long ago was her last visit?
----->March 2003
What does she do in her home
> country?
-----> She's working for a local I.T. company
How long does she plan to stay?
-----> about 3 weeks
How much money does she have?
-----> No idea, but definitely not more than 10,000 Dollars
Thanks,
PAULS
crg14624 <member20421@british_expats.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Originally posted by Pauls
> > A friend who's a little bit
> worried will be travelling to the US in 2
> > weeks time and she heard
> some stories about some people on B1/B2 being
> > denied at the POE upon
> arrival and sent back home to their country.
> > Anybody out there who
> experienced this or anybody you know, your
> > friend, a friend of a
> friend, etc. My friend just want to confirm if
> > its true and what was
> the reason for denial. Please share your
> > stories. Thanks in advance.
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > PAULS
>
> It's definetly true. The usual
> reasons for denial are for overstaying, being an intending immigrant,
> having the wrong visa for the purpose of the trip, expired passport,
> criminal history, fraud, intent to work, or past unlawful work.
>
> How
> about giving some additional information. What country is she a citizen
> of?
----->My friend is from the Philippines.
If it's a visa waiver country, why did she get an actual visa?
------>She got a multiple 10 years B1/B2 Visa back in ,97.
How
> many times has she been to the US,
----->She's been in the U.S. 3 times '97 , 2002 & 2003
how long did she stay?
----->She only stayed less than a month for each visits.
Did she
> overstay?
-----> No
How long ago was her last visit?
----->March 2003
What does she do in her home
> country?
-----> She's working for a local I.T. company
How long does she plan to stay?
-----> about 3 weeks
How much money does she have?
-----> No idea, but definitely not more than 10,000 Dollars
Thanks,
PAULS
She shouldn't worry about it. Her past trips don't show a pattern of visa abuse and supports the fact that she's a bonafide visitor. She should be ready to answer the "why do you have a visa" question. Also, since she's using a visa, she may be subject to fingerprinting.
If she last visited for 6 months, and her last visit ended three weeks ago, then she may have a problem.
