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Originally Posted by ironporer
I think that is what the anti-Castro Cubans in Miami think, and hope, but I really wonder if in Cuba there is not a very ingrained sense of socialisim now after almost 50 years, under a system that arguably worked better than any other Socialist state- and certainly bettered the lives of the common man over what they had before.

I envision a combination of the two systems evolving...and hopefully now the Cuban people will have both good Medical care AND food...

My Cuban work mates hate the bastard. Almost all cubans apparently hate the life in Cuba - dont listen to any propoganda - they really, really think it sucks. Most of them would happily become a true democracy without a second thought. But they love Cuba after all it is their home country and wouldnt want to be a US state..
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Originally Posted by dan_alford
That is true. You could have a whole new hunting season, Chav season.If it happens, could I borrow a gun, preferably an assault rifle?
I may have one I can lend you....you can pay for the ammo though.
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I may have one I can lend you....you can pay for the ammo though.
Lend .......... I prefer the word hire ..........
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With the news that Fidel Castro is ill ...

If he pops his clogs ..will his brother Raul be able to keep it all together ???

Or will it become a capitalist vacation center with massive investment from the US ????

Or even the 51st State ...
Isn't Raul the chief of the secret police?

I think he'll keep it together but more forcefully than Castro.
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Yes I though it was good. Was it Samuel L. in a kilt that did it for you ?
actually its the sight of robs arse when he got shot in the butt cheek that did it for me lmao
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Originally Posted by ironporer
I think that is what the anti-Castro Cubans in Miami think, and hope, but I really wonder if in Cuba there is not a very ingrained sense of socialisim now after almost 50 years, under a system that arguably worked better than any other Socialist state- and certainly bettered the lives of the common man over what they had before.

I envision a combination of the two systems evolving...and hopefully now the Cuban people will have both good Medical care AND food...

I read somewhere that Cuba has one of the best public healthcare systems in the world and that a black baby born in the USA is more likely to die than in Cuba.

If America does go in and take over it'll just be like Russia was after the fall of communism, still loads of poverty but now with a big McDonalds in the middle of Havana.
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I read somewhere that Cuba has one of the best public healthcare systems in the world and that a black baby born in the USA is more likely to die than in Cuba.

If America does go in and take over it'll just be like Russia was after the fall of communism, still loads of poverty but now with a big McDonalds in the middle of Havana.
That seems the likely scenario. Great if Cuba could have true democracy without a puppet government.
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I read somewhere that Cuba has one of the best public healthcare systems in the world and that a black baby born in the USA is more likely to die than in Cuba. .
Yes!! their infant mortality rate is tops
But six out of ten preganacies in Cuba are aborted. As confirmed by the Cuban Government's own numbers. Not only that, but abortions are paid for by the state, encouraged even... got to keep those figures up ...
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Yes!! their infant mortality rate is tops
But six out of ten preganacies in Cuba are aborted. As confirmed by the Cuban Government's own numbers. Not only that, but abortions are paid for by the state, encouraged even... got to keep those figures up ...
As opposed to Europe's 5/10......
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As opposed to Europe's 5/10......
Not just that, but 25% of a womens periods throughout her lifetime are actually mini-miscarriages, ie, the result of a fertilized egg being thrown out of the body. (So says my brother the nurse but I wouldn't trust him with my pet cat let alone anything medical )
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I read somewhere that Cuba has one of the best public healthcare systems in the world and that a black baby born in the USA is more likely to die than in Cuba.
Ask a real live genuine Cuban what they feel about it. not what a theorising acedemic thinks.
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Ask a real live genuine Cuban what they feel about it. not what a theorising acedemic thinks.
Wouldn't that mean travelling to Cuba? Don't think you get an entirely balanced view of it talking only to Cuban-Americans who've swam across....
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Wouldn't that mean travelling to Cuba? Don't think you get an entirely balanced view of it talking only to Cuban-Americans who've swam across....
I went to Cuba in '03; we were allowed to ask regular Cubans what they thought of Fidel Castro. The tour guide said "I like him, he's OK", then changed the subject; no one else would answer us.... !

EDIT: Come to think of it, I probably got a few of them shot.
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As opposed to Europe's 5/10......
Thanks I was wondering that
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I went to Cuba in '03; we were allowed to ask regular Cubans what they thought of Fidel Castro. The tour guide said "I like him, he's OK", then changed the subject; no one else would answer us.... !

EDIT: Come to think of it, I probably got a few of them shot.
I hope not! I naively hope they don't pull that shit with their own citizens anymore, maybe I've just watched the motorcycle diaries one too many times but I quite like old Fidel. One last tiny country standing up to the US onslaught of globalisation. Shame about the human rights records like, but its not like the US is innocent and pure as the driven snow either.
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