B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

Hi guys,

I posted a thread nearly two weeks ago about my b2 visa interview, and was denied due to 'lack of ties'. I then 10 days later applied for a VWP after being told my chances are slim and with searching around on here through forums I was pretty sure my VWP would be denied because of my very recent visa denial, but then I was more than surprised to have been approved :thumbsup: YAY :D

Now whilst searching through the forums I noticed that my next obstacle is US CBP, what are my chances getting through them? And what can I do or say or take with me to gain entry into US, would a return ticket help?

Many thanks in advance

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

An onward ticket is required for VWP travel anyway. Usual advice is proof of home ties - mortgage/rent agreement, statement from employer saying you're needed back on X date, etc.

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

Hey, thanks for the reply.
I live with my parents so don't pay rent or mortgage etc however, I will definitely have an onward ticket and a letter from my employer saying I am starting work on 'x date', will that be enough?

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

It helps, but it's much harder to skip on a mortgage payment than it is to not start a job...

Double edged sword, but could try flying in via Ireland as you go through pre-clearance, so you don't have far to go if you get bounced but because of that, they do tend to be more strict about things and likely to bounce you than give you the benefit of the doubt kind of luck you might have arriving in th eUS.

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

Has it occurred to you to draw up an agreement with your parents anyway... and then you would have one! You need to think outside the box.

Ian

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

Great News! I am glad you went against the majority advice you got in your last thread to sit and wait 6months before applying for ESTA :thumbup: As you can see (with all the best intention) they all gave wrong advice.

My experience of when I got ESTA shortly after being denied was that I carried most of my docs in a ring binder but the officer I got at CBP didnt ask about my recent denial instead he told me I had chosen a good time to fly since it was super bowl weekend.

In my case I was very confident and specific about the reason why I was traveling which was to purchase a business property. I think having clear answers ready will certainly help. The officer asked more about what I was going to do more than what I did back in the UK.

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

Withe the greatest of respect, the "majority advice" to wait 6 months before trying an ESTA application was/is given with the intent of maximising the chances of success.

Sure ESTAs are approved in a shorter timeframe, such as here. But without doubt, the chances of a successful ESTA outcome do increase as more time elapses since a visa denial. Pointing that fact out does not make it "wrong advice".

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

In future, I suggest you choose your words more carefully.

Ian

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

I dont recall giving wrong advice on the last thread, so think your statement is a tad harsh and incorrect.

Congrats to OP on VWP approval though, that is good news. Good luck and fingers crossed no issues at POE

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

actually I didn't think of that, so thanks I'll do that!!


Thanks, hopefully the CBP will go easy on me :fingerscrossed: IA

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

Did you really need to hijack the OPs thread to vent your own bitterness? This comment was completely unnecessary. No one gave any incorrect advice. It was suggested that the OP would have more chance of being approved if she waited, this is still the case. She got lucky and that's great but this is most likely an exception to what would more frequently be a denial based on other posters experiences.

Summer1 - Congrats! :) As mentioned before, be prepared to answer all questions about your trip honestly but without volunteering too much extra info and you should be fine!

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

Thanks, yeah i was thinking if i over do it n try too hard they may think im annoying n send me on the next flight back :getcoat: haha

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

Summer1,

Congratulations are in order, I believe!
I would only like to add that IMHO it is fairly likely that you may well have a harder time at the POE the sooner you try to visit the US.
I believe it rather likely that the more time passes between your recent B2 visa denial and your next journey to the US, the better your chances of being "let in" at the POE.
The more "eager" to visit the US you may seem to be in the eyes of the CBP, the greater the risk of experiencing some troubles at the POE.
Again, as your recent experience proves, there are always exceptions to the general rule, but I do think that my point is a valid one in this context.
Best of luck!

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

point taken

Re: B2 Denied VWP approved (surprisingly) but now..?
 

Congrats anyway...I'm in the same position, my B1/B2 has pending for nearly two yrs and I'm thinking for applying via ESTA

Pls keep us posted if or when you decide to cross the pond and share your exp. on POE

Sajid