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My visitor visa in my UK Passport expires shortly and I am wondering if there would be any advantage in having the new one in my Irish Passport?

I am asking this because I recently read that the UK is considered by the DHS as being a high risk source of terrorists. Kinda strange twist to things!
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My visitor visa in my UK Passport expires shortly and I am wondering if there would be any advantage in having the new one in my Irish Passport?

I am asking this because I recently read that the UK is considered by the DHS as being a high risk source of terrorists. Kinda strange twist to things!


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I am asking this because I recently read that the UK is considered by the DHS as being a high risk source of terrorists. Kinda strange twist to things!
I think Muslim countries more so.. especially those in the axis of evil ...
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Originally Posted by spaarks
My visitor visa in my UK Passport expires shortly and I am wondering if there would be any advantage in having the new one in my Irish Passport?

I am asking this because I recently read that the UK is considered by the DHS as being a high risk source of terrorists. Kinda strange twist to things!
Any reason why you can't use the visa waiver?
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I recently read that the UK is considered by the DHS as being a high risk source of terrorists. Kinda strange twist to things!
I've read some similar things, but it's in the context of British citizens of Pakistani heritage. There was even talk about ending the VWP for this reason. But assuming your name doesn't indicate that your parents are from the Indian subcontinent, then I doubt it makes a difference whether you're seen as British or Irish.
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The Visa Waiver is too restrictive because:

I sometimes want to stay more than three months.
I often fly back on a different carrier and from a different airport.
I frequently visit Canada by car, boat or light aircraft.
I sometimes leave by boat.
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The Visa Waiver is too restrictive because:

I sometimes want to stay more than three months.
I often fly back on a different carrier and from a different airport.
I frequently visit Canada by car, boat or light aircraft.
I sometimes leave by boat.
If you have a good reason why the Visa Waiver Program you can apply for a regular tourist visa.

But the Consul will be interested in more background as to why you plan to do the above, because it's not what most visitors to the U.S. plan to do.
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If you have a good reason why the Visa Waiver Program you can apply for a regular tourist visa.

But the Consul will be interested in more background as to why you plan to do the above, because it's not what most visitors to the U.S. plan to do.
He has spread his story and questions across several threads, but IIRC he is retired. It sounds like he has been doing the above for several years. He's also had extensions twice on his B entries.

His question is, is there an advantage to a new visa application being in his UK or Irish pp. I'm interested to know, too, just out of curiosity.

My gut feeling is that it's better to keep it in the UK pp because he already has a history. But maybe that is what he's trying to ditch?
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It sounds like he has been doing the above for several years.
Yes he has, and he has never overstayed so it is perfectly legal.
He's also had extensions twice on his B entries.
Yes he has, also perfectly legal, and for rerasons which the INS accepted.

He has spread his story and questions across several threads
He has started two threads on separate subjects. He has posted replies in two other threads with the intention of being helpful.
If that is a problem please let him know and "he" will desist from contributing any further.

Thanks JJ for your constructive comments. Yes I have good reasons for my activities - I am a keen amateur sailor and flyer. My brother lives in Canada so I often visit him on my way out or on my way home. Unless the VWP rules have recently changed you have to fly back on the same carrier, and I think it does not entitle you to cross the border by private boat.
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If that is a problem please let him know and "he" will desist from contributing any further.
Sorry, didn't mean to be talking 'about' you in front of you, just catching JAJ up. As you know, sometime the complete context will make a difference in the reply.

I never questioned the legality of what you're doing/done, by the way. But the history of your visits does make a difference in every application for admission, or for a new visa.

I'm sorry you seem to have taken offense; none intended.
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Thanks. Guess I misunderstood - for a moment you sounded like an Immigration Officer!
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Default Re: B1/B2 UK or Irish Passport

Originally Posted by spaarks
My visitor visa in my UK Passport expires shortly and I am wondering if there would be any advantage in having the new one in my Irish Passport?

I am asking this because I recently read that the UK is considered by the DHS as being a high risk source of terrorists. Kinda strange twist to things!
Hi:

It will show up on the records [i.e. the computer screen] that you hold dual nationality -- my off-the-top-of-my-head reaction is why do you want to to put a further issue in your record to provoke questioning?

This is just a pure guess IMHO.
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A friend of mine was doing something similar, his B2 ran out recently and he took the view that the game was up. He has spent an awful lot of time in the US, but he had never applied for a US DL. Just as well as on one of his entries he had one Oficer spend a considerable amount of time trying to find one, if he had, he was fairly sure it would have been curtains.

And it is very different getting a B2 now than it was 10 years ago.
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