Elf2719

Yes, thank you. My only condition is to turn up at the police station on the date that they want me too in about a month. It's a relief as I actually get married in two months so if I couldn't go on my honeymoon it would be awful. It's bad enough having this hanging over me.

Thanks again for all the help.

rmart

I have been through this process and my 100% advice to you is just travel on the visa waiver programme. No one will ever know you have been arrested.

jeffreyhy

Except that an attorney, in face-to-face discussion, can get a better understanding of the details of the situation than we are going to get here exchanging written posts.

I agree with civilservant that a consultation would be worthwhile.

Regards, JEff

lansbury

All the attorney will get is a one side account of what happened. Their advice based on that account will be worthless because the information given to them will be a distorted account of the facts. Advice based on inaccurate information is worthless no matter who gives it.

jeffreyhy

My, don't we have a low opinion of people's character today. One-sided is not necessarily distorted, and you don't think an attorney would ask to see whatever information is available from the authorities about the situation, the same as a consular officer will?

Regards, JEff

md95065

That is very bad advice.

If the OP completes an ESTA application honestly and declares that he has been arrested for a CIMT and his application is approved (which it almost certainly won't be) then and only then would it be appropriate for him to use the VWP.

customsquestion

So you lied yourself then did you?

Let me ask you a question? What do you think will happen to him in x years time when they get access to UK Police Records probably by fingerprint! Then they would know that he lied to get into the country and he would be screwed. He may even do a little american jail time. And they will get that eventually you know, one day something will happen that they don't like and they will force the issue.

Elf2719

Thank you for the advice. I am aware from reading online that a lot of people jsut go for the visa waiver and don't mention their arrest but I know that to do so would be dishonest and I really don't like being dishonest. (Quite ironic given what my arrest is for really!) I just wouldn't be comfortable doing it as I hate lying and would find the whole process stressful, not to mention I would worry it may come back to bite me in the future.

rmart

when I applied for my first visa (over 20 years ago) the officer at the embassy actually asked me why I had applied for a visa. I informed him it was on the advice of my brother as he knew my circumstances.

The Office actually said to me that I should not have bothered ! But now I am in the system I cannot change it. It was in 1989 that I receive my conviction (I was 26yrs old). I am now 50 years old and I will have to go through his process for the rest of my life.

Every visa I have had in the past was issued within a few days. This time they have changed the process and they are quoting 26 weeks !. I have been to USA on no less than 25 occasions and never so much as had a parking ticket there. It is crazy.

The last 2 visas I have had were 5 year ones. I am hoping for another 5 year one this time. I am clearly not considered any risk if they gave me a 5 year visa twice before.

Please dont get me wrong. I actually love the system. I wish the UK was like this. It is just frustrating that I had to miss a holiday in March as I had no idea they had changed the processing procedure.

mikelincs

and of course, if they decide to continue the bail for a couple of months, or charge you with anything and set a court date, you just aren't likely to be going on your honeymoon..

Elf2719

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I don't think you can really judge that, can you? (although if you do have inside knowledge and are aware of how the justice system works and know that if my bail is extended then I will not be able to travel, then please do let me know that's the case because I won't bother booking my honeymoon tonight.)

As far as I am aware, there is no reason to think that I won't be travelling on my honeymoon in October. I have not committed a crime, I am however on bail at the moment with no conditions to my bail. I expect my bail may be extended as from what I've been told, these investigations can take an awfully long time however I trust that as I have not done a single thing wrong that I will not be charged or convicted of a crime. As I said before, I don't know why if the investigations were on going, my bail conditions would become more stringent than previously and I wouldn't be able to travel but if you know otherwise do inform me. Otherwise if it is just scare mongering, I could really do without it as the past fortnight has been awful.

Thanks again for those who have offered postive advice based on experience of the US visa system and fact.

civilservant

The simplest way to find out what restrictions (if any) are placed upon you is to call the Police Station and ask to speak to the Arresting Officer, or a Sergeant if they are not on duty.

hungryhorace

Why not? Do you have any knowledge of how the UK bail system works, or are you just talking ignorant twaddle?

hungryhorace

Bail conditions are listed on your charge sheet. As the OP will (almost certainly) be on DCB (delay charge bail), the charge sheet will simply have a statement to the effect of 'bailed pending further investigations'. You are free to leave the country as you please unless otherwise stipulated on this sheet.

civilservant

Ill defer to clear experience there, I've never had any involvement with the Police