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Any timelines on receiving SSN? Advice how to get it sooner?

Old Sep 30th 2002, 10:34 pm
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Hi all,

I am back needing more advice to calm me. I posted previous that I got
my EAD, and went directly to the social security office and applied for
my card. Its been a month and still no card. I called the SSN office
here in my home town today to check and get told that my application for
a SSN has to be forwarded to the INS office for verification and
authentication that it is legit, then they forward all the paper word
back to the office here in my hometown and they then process and issue
me a card. Problem is that I have a job offer, but they cant start me
to work until I have my SSN. And the Office says there is nothing I can
do but wait.

This is so frustration, I so bad don't want to miss out on a job, as
there are not too many here to begin with, but here I sit again waiting.

Does anyone have any encouraging words or time frames on how long it
took them to get their SSN card. Or any ideas/advice on how to speed it
up in any way.

Frustrated
Jewel
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 3:30 am
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my daughter's SS card lost twice and she went to the SSN office and they
sent her another one.. Go talk to someone there..


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    > Hi all,
    > I am back needing more advice to calm me. I posted previous that I got
    > my EAD, and went directly to the social security office and applied for
    > my card. Its been a month and still no card. I called the SSN office
    > here in my home town today to check and get told that my application for
    > a SSN has to be forwarded to the INS office for verification and
    > authentication that it is legit, then they forward all the paper word
    > back to the office here in my hometown and they then process and issue
    > me a card. Problem is that I have a job offer, but they cant start me
    > to work until I have my SSN. And the Office says there is nothing I can
    > do but wait.
    > This is so frustration, I so bad don't want to miss out on a job, as
    > there are not too many here to begin with, but here I sit again waiting.
    > Does anyone have any encouraging words or time frames on how long it
    > took them to get their SSN card. Or any ideas/advice on how to speed it
    > up in any way.
    > Frustrated
    > Jewel
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 5:42 am
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It took almost 9 weeks for me to receive my SSN applying through
Boise, Idaho. Sorry I don't know how you can speed things up.
Originally I was told 4 - 6 weeks to get it.



JEB wrote in message news:...
    > Hi all,
    > I am back needing more advice to calm me. I posted previous that I got
    > my EAD, and went directly to the social security office and applied for
    > my card. Its been a month and still no card. I called the SSN office
    > here in my home town today to check and get told that my application for
    > a SSN has to be forwarded to the INS office for verification and
    > authentication that it is legit, then they forward all the paper word
    > back to the office here in my hometown and they then process and issue
    > me a card. Problem is that I have a job offer, but they cant start me
    > to work until I have my SSN. And the Office says there is nothing I can
    > do but wait.
    > This is so frustration, I so bad don't want to miss out on a job, as
    > there are not too many here to begin with, but here I sit again waiting.
    > Does anyone have any encouraging words or time frames on how long it
    > took them to get their SSN card. Or any ideas/advice on how to speed it
    > up in any way.
    > Frustrated
    > Jewel
 
Old Oct 1st 2002, 7:59 am
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> Hi all,
> I am back needing more advice to calm me. I posted previous that I got
> my EAD, and went directly to the social security office and applied for
> my card. Its been a month and still no card. I called the SSN office
here in my home town today to check and get told that my application for
> a SSN has to be forwarded to the INS office for verification and
> authentication that it is legit, then they forward all the paper word
> back to the office here in my hometown and they then process and issue
> me a card. Problem is that I have a job offer, but they cant start me
> to work until I have my SSN. And the Office says there is nothing I can
> do but wait.
> This is so frustration, I so bad don't want to miss out on a job, as
> there are not too many here to begin with, but here I sit again waiting.
> Does anyone have any encouraging words or time frames on how long it
> took them to get their SSN card. Or any ideas/advice on how to speed it
> up in any way.
> Frustrated
> Jewel
I am confused about the whole EAD/SSN situation. The stamp at the POE is a temp EAD right? Giving you the permission to work, but you still can't work until you get a SSN? Then whats the point of getting the EAD at the POE?
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Old Oct 1st 2002, 1:47 pm
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    > Does anyone have any encouraging words or time frames on how long it
    > took them to get their SSN card. Or any ideas/advice on how to speed it
    > up in any way.
    > Frustrated
    > Jewel

We actually waited until Ian got his EAD card. Then he went to the
Social Security office, filled out paperwork, showed them his passport
with the visa in it and his work auth card. He got his SSN in the
mail about 2 weeks later.

This was Baltimore City. His work auth card came about a month after
we mailed the paperwork applying for it.
 
Old Oct 2nd 2002, 6:01 am
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GentleDoe wrote:

    > my daughter's SS card lost twice and she went to the SSN office and they
    > sent her another one.. Go talk to someone there..

Hi All!

Well when was the last time your daughter got a replacement card and what was
her alien status at the time? If it was before July 1st of this year, it was
a lot faster and easier than it is now.

You can go to the Social Security office where you applied and have them query
the system and see if your status has change. If it's been over 20 working
days since you applied you could request that they call the INS office that is
verifying your status to ask what's the hold up in processing the
verification. Other than that you just have to wait it out. You can also
request that the SSA office contact you once everything is OK and the
application has been certified to issue the SSN.

The SSA office notified me today that my daughter's application was certified
and we would receive the SSN card in 7 to 10 days. We applied for her on
Sept.10th. I figure we should receive the card sometime next week.

Take care,

Mike
 
Old Oct 3rd 2002, 4:58 pm
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    > Does anyone have any encouraging words or time frames on how long it
    > took them to get their SSN card. Or any ideas/advice on how to speed it
    > up in any way.
    > Frustrated
    > Jewel

You can check the archives for our Atlanta story if you like (posted a
couple months ago), but I would suggest going to the INS in person, as
painful as that can be. There's a form they can FAX to the SS office
on the spot, if they are so inclined. This is what broke the
stalemate in our situation, and my wife had her number by phone the
next day, and the actual card within a week (actually two cards with
two different numbers, but that's another story). The whole process
took several weeks, but it didn't need to if we had known what we
could have done earlier to walk the process through.

John
 
Old Oct 3rd 2002, 5:43 pm
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Default Re: Any timelines on receiving SSN? Advice how to get it sooner?

Originally posted by Susie:


I am confused about the whole EAD/SSN situation. The stamp at the POE is a temp EAD right? Giving you the permission to work, but you still can't work until you get a SSN? Then whats the point of getting the EAD at the POE?
Susie,

The point is, in order to work, one needs both permission to work in the form of an EAD given by the INS, and registration with the SSA so that an employer can make the required contributions to the employee's medical and retirement income benefit accounts maintained by the SSA.

In very simple terms, one needs an EAD in order to perform work and a SSN in order to be paid for the performance of that work.

Regards, JEff
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Old Oct 3rd 2002, 7:54 pm
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SS#'s are not necessary at time of starting work. But depending on the size of the business the first time they need to report anything with your SS# would be on the 15th of the following month. I do not know all states but it could be as late as Jan 31, 2003 for small business'. For IRS no reporting will be done until Jan with Jan 31 deadlines. All this depends on how willing your new employer is to wait.
If a company does their own payroll it is easy to change a SS#
before goverment reporting. This is NOT illegal.
A W-7 may be filed to get a TIN#. This is not advisable unless you are illegal & wish to file tax returns. It is mainly for foreign nationals receiving U.S. nonpayroll income. http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/formspubs/index.html
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Old Oct 4th 2002, 12:16 am
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trburton wrote:

    > SS#'s are not necessary at time of starting work. But depending on the
    > size of the business the first time they need to report anything with
    > your SS# would be on the 15th of the following month. I do not know all
    > states but it could be as late as Jan 31, 2003 for small business'. For
    > IRS no reporting will be done until Jan with Jan 31 deadlines. All this
    > depends on how willing your new employer is to wait.
    > If a company does their own payroll it is easy to change a SS#
    > before goverment reporting.

Hi All!

The employer is required to provide the employee a W-2 by the end of January
after the closed of the tax year and that would need an SSN. Then the
employer would need to report the wages to SSA by the end of February or
March if filing electronically to be posted to the individual's earnings
record and that needs a correct SSN or the employer can be charged a
penalty. Employers pay federal and FICA taxes to IRS as a total payment for
all employees, not individual payments for each employee, so a SSN wouldn't
be needed for that.

The amounts reported to SSA and IRS are compared to make sure the totals
match.

http://www.ssa.gov/employer/-
recon/recon.htm#what


Q. What if one of my employees does not have an SSN?

R. Advise your employee to apply for an SSN card as soon as possible and
show it to you when it is received. It will only take a few weeks to receive
the card once SSA has received all the documents from the employee that are
necessary to process the application. On your records use the SSN exactly as
shown on the card and use this information for any W-2 you later prepare for
the employee.

http://www.ssa.gov/employer/pape-
rq&a.htm#ein



Take care,

Mike
 
Old Oct 4th 2002, 1:16 am
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To summarize what Michael Young & I are saying; If you have a job offer & still haven't received a number explain to the employer & show him proof. Most companys will understand and work with you. IRS is not as critical as State reporting in most cases (child support reporting, etc.). It takes until Oct for IRS to ? invalid SS#'s from the previous year.
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Default What about working w/SSN and w/o EAD?

Originally posted by trburton:
To summarize what Michael Young & I are saying; If you have a job offer & still haven't received a number explain to the employer & show him proof. Most companys will understand and work with you. IRS is not as critical as State reporting in most cases (child support reporting, etc.). It takes until Oct for IRS to ? invalid SS#'s from the previous year.
So here is another senario, my fiance get his SSN but won't be getting his EAD until after we are married next month. There are some places who will hire people without SSN and some without EAD, so does that mean if he gets a job offer with and has his SSN and the company agrees to pay him that he later down the road at AOS etc wouldn't run into trouble? Perhaps the employer would, correct?

Also, is the SSN checked against a database that will alert the employer that this person must have an EAD?
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Originally posted by kjdrga:


So here is another senario, my fiance get his SSN but won't be getting his EAD until after we are married next month. There are some places who will hire people without SSN and some without EAD, so does that mean if he gets a job offer with and has his SSN and the company agrees to pay him that he later down the road at AOS etc wouldn't run into trouble? Perhaps the employer would, correct?

Also, is the SSN checked against a database that will alert the employer that this person must have an EAD?
The SS card will have an INS warning message typed over the front. Just do it right and you will have no problem.
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Old Oct 4th 2002, 4:04 am
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kjdrga wrote:

    > So here is another senario, my fiance get his SSN but won't be getting
    > his EAD until after we are married next month. There are some places
    > who will hire people without SSN and some without EAD, so does that mean
    > if he gets a job offer with and has his SSN and the company agrees to
    > pay him that he later down the road at AOS etc wouldn't run into
    > trouble? Perhaps the employer would, correct?
    > Also, is the SSN checked against a database that will alert the employer
    > that this person must have an EAD?

Hi All!

Well not having the EAD is a whole lot different than not having an SSN. No
EAD he's working illegally 90 days after entering on the K-1 and I believe
INS isn't to happy when they find out you are doing that. No SSN he can
come up with it later in a reasonable amount of time. Plus the employer
will need to complete a INS form I-9 when he is hired and on that form he
needs some type of document that authorizes employment.

Yes employers can be fined for letting someone work that's not authorized to
work.

Take care,

Mike
 

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