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PaulandNic May 22nd 2008 8:26 pm

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Well, where do I start.

Nic is still in a cast after breaking her ankle. She's casual so it's been 3 weeks since any money came in from her ... feeling the pinch for once! ... :rolleyes: ... and another 3 weeks to go! ... :(

I'm still looking for alternative work, but not having much joy to be honest. I have a few leads, but leads that will prob be more suited to my dog!

Now a PR at last I'm gonna get my arms sorted out. I broke them both in 2003 and they've not grafted (welded together) and altho they've given me jip for years, with a PR case to be decided I've been too scared to have them sorted out here, but as I say now is the time! I'm off to have them x-rayed on Monday and know the news will be bad, they'll NEED to be grafted so it'll be time off work. Time I no doubt won't be able to afford! ... but GOTTA be done if my 'next mission' is gonna be overcomed! ... :unsure:

Next mission?

Well, I'm currently goin nowhere here being unskilled so it's looking like joining the army is my / our best bet. I can do the equivalent of a 4 year apprenticeship in 2 years in the army. We'll get all kinds of benefits inc free healthcare & dentistry, and will gain citizenship after 3 months of joining, which isn't to be sniffed at!

My tie in will be 6 years, but once qualified (Electrician) I'll be on £55k which again, isn't to be sniffed at!

Locations?

Well I have to do 8 weeks on my own in NSW. They tell you NOT to move your family there as you're basically not allowed away from camp. After that, we all move to Victoria for 12 months, followed by 12 - 18 months back in NSW. Once qualified I can opt to be posted back in QLD, either Brissie or Townsville!

My daughter has made her life here on the Goldie and has already said she doesn't want to come. She's gonna obtain her real estate licence soon and is basically sorted. Got a long time boyfriend and only a matter of time before she leaves home anyway!

The boy has left school and working part time for Hungry Jacks, basically goin nowhere so he'll follow suite and do an apprenticeship in the army by the looks of things.

I've got friends and family telling me this seems sooooo extreme, but at the end of the day we're just struggling and there isn't many options for us. The TV will tell you that QLD is crying out for trades, and how they're offering incentives to get mature apprentices and all the rest, but when you actually start looking for a decent (Sparkie or Plumber) apprenticeship, well, they're just NOT out there! I've spent a good 2 weeks phoning, emailing, and all the rest all kinds of apprenticeship centre's, electrical contractors, and everyone who advertises on SEEK and basically no one is interested! ... so what can I do!!

It's annoying as Nic will become permanent once she returns to work, and is sorted! ... but me! ... still clutching at straws and only last week I was sudgesting I go back to blighty again and drive a cab for 2 - 3 months. Nic REALLY doesn't want this, and if the truth be known I don't either! ... but I'm just soooo fed up with scrimping and scraping to get by ... I didn't come here for this!!!

Sooooo, my current mission is to get my arms sorted out so I can do 15 press ups. This is part of the fitness test to get into the army, the rest I know I can pass. Currently I cannot do one as my right arm is basically 50% strong, and down to the bone damage, but hopefully once they're both sorted, and a bit of physio etc I'll be right!

Anyway, that's the current state of play.

Please wish me luck!

mo33 May 22nd 2008 8:32 pm

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Good luck!:thumbsup:

GinaUK May 22nd 2008 8:38 pm

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Good luck!

Don't know why other people say this is extreme. Sounds to me like an excellent plan to get your future secured. (I trust with this kind of apprenticeship you won't get sent off overseas.)

Hope it works out with your arms and that it won't take too long.

Take care.

Gina

Wendy May 22nd 2008 8:39 pm

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No one can accuse you of taking the easy way out can they? :D

Good luck Paul, I know that you will be just fine whatever you decide to do. Karma winging it's way to you :)

nightnurse2 May 22nd 2008 8:54 pm

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Best of luck Paul with everything (and there was certainly a lot going on in that post)
If that's what you want and you have your family behind you, then go for it :)

Bix May 22nd 2008 9:01 pm

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Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 6383528)
Please wish me luck!

Okay then - good luck :thumbup:

Fleaflyfloflum May 22nd 2008 9:02 pm

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Best of luck to you. Wont be easy but if it leads you in the right direction so be it.

moneypenny20 May 22nd 2008 9:12 pm

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God forbid you find an easy way to do things ;) You know what I think already but for the record I think in your circumstances it's a good plan. The pros far outweigh the cons from what I can tell. Going back again to the UK for more work is not the long term solution and whilst it's a lifeline, it caused you all so much stress last time I honestly don't think it's worthwhile.

Anyway you get the arms sorted and that's another major thing ticked off of the list.

No one said life was easy, you're just proving it at the mo. Oh and I want my laptop back. Are you in this weekend?

Stitch May 22nd 2008 9:13 pm

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Hi guys,

All the very best in the next part of the journey. Gotta do what you gotta do!

Cheers

Ginny

ub40fan May 22nd 2008 10:35 pm

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Hi Paul

Well, what can I say, except you have got to be a bit of an inspriation for people. You and Nic don't take the easy way out of anything do you?

I wish you all the luck in the world mate, you deserve it. And when you get in the Army you can apply for citizenship after 3 months! Bonus or what?

You have inspired me to do a complete change in career - if you can then why not - not the Army though, I did that 25 years ago (just about recovered now :eek: - just kidding ). I am going to apply for a job with Customs.

Have a great weekend

Shirley x

Machiavelli May 22nd 2008 10:44 pm

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Oh My!

There is no easy road for you is there?

I wish you all the best, if anyone deserves to make it here, you do:D

M

seang May 22nd 2008 10:53 pm

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Paul,
Is there a chance in the 6 yrs that you could be sent overseas with the Army? Would check this out as you dont want to end up in baggers or the 'stan.(and also the wife being left behind while u overseas)

curly May 22nd 2008 10:58 pm

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Paul, I know how fed up you are with work, so as you say it's a way of sorting out the apprenticeship in super quick time, is Nic ok about the move? As you say sometimes you've just got to go for it :)

Also hope the arm business gets sorted, but it sounds a bit :ohmy: how long with it take to recuperate form the op?

(btw tried to send you some karma but gotta 'spread' :D)

Clippy May 22nd 2008 11:00 pm

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Paul! I've been looking at this thread, wondering how to reply. I just can't think what to say. Everything is always an uphill struggle for you and I just wish you could get a lucky break for once.

I hope this is the right decision for you and I hope it makes you happy, it's not going to be easy but you know that.

I wish you all the luck in the world mate, I genuinely do.

:)

steve_uk May 23rd 2008 1:24 am

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Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 6383528)
Well, where do I start.

Nic is still in a cast after breaking her ankle. She's casual so it's been 3 weeks since any money came in from her ... feeling the pinch for once! ... :rolleyes: ... and another 3 weeks to go! ... :(

I'm still looking for alternative work, but not having much joy to be honest. I have a few leads, but leads that will prob be more suited to my dog!

Now a PR at last I'm gonna get my arms sorted out. I broke them both in 2003 and they've not grafted (welded together) and altho they've given me jip for years, with a PR case to be decided I've been too scared to have them sorted out here, but as I say now is the time! I'm off to have them x-rayed on Monday and know the news will be bad, they'll NEED to be grafted so it'll be time off work. Time I no doubt won't be able to afford! ... but GOTTA be done if my 'next mission' is gonna be overcomed! ... :unsure:

Next mission?

Well, I'm currently goin nowhere here being unskilled so it's looking like joining the army is my / our best bet. I can do the equivalent of a 4 year apprenticeship in 2 years in the army. We'll get all kinds of benefits inc free healthcare & dentistry, and will gain citizenship after 3 months of joining, which isn't to be sniffed at!

My tie in will be 6 years, but once qualified (Electrician) I'll be on £55k which again, isn't to be sniffed at!

Locations?

Well I have to do 8 weeks on my own in NSW. They tell you NOT to move your family there as you're basically not allowed away from camp. After that, we all move to Victoria for 12 months, followed by 12 - 18 months back in NSW. Once qualified I can opt to be posted back in QLD, either Brissie or Townsville!

My daughter has made her life here on the Goldie and has already said she doesn't want to come. She's gonna obtain her real estate licence soon and is basically sorted. Got a long time boyfriend and only a matter of time before she leaves home anyway!

The boy has left school and working part time for Hungry Jacks, basically goin nowhere so he'll follow suite and do an apprenticeship in the army by the looks of things.

I've got friends and family telling me this seems sooooo extreme, but at the end of the day we're just struggling and there isn't many options for us. The TV will tell you that QLD is crying out for trades, and how they're offering incentives to get mature apprentices and all the rest, but when you actually start looking for a decent (Sparkie or Plumber) apprenticeship, well, they're just NOT out there! I've spent a good 2 weeks phoning, emailing, and all the rest all kinds of apprenticeship centre's, electrical contractors, and everyone who advertises on SEEK and basically no one is interested! ... so what can I do!!

It's annoying as Nic will become permanent once she returns to work, and is sorted! ... but me! ... still clutching at straws and only last week I was sudgesting I go back to blighty again and drive a cab for 2 - 3 months. Nic REALLY doesn't want this, and if the truth be known I don't either! ... but I'm just soooo fed up with scrimping and scraping to get by ... I didn't come here for this!!!

Sooooo, my current mission is to get my arms sorted out so I can do 15 press ups. This is part of the fitness test to get into the army, the rest I know I can pass. Currently I cannot do one as my right arm is basically 50% strong, and down to the bone damage, but hopefully once they're both sorted, and a bit of physio etc I'll be right!

Anyway, that's the current state of play.

Please wish me luck!

Good luck matey!

Vin 'n Bin May 23rd 2008 1:26 am

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Paul, I admire you and Nic so much :)...never say die :)
I just want to wish you and your family all the luck in the world and hope that your arms can be sorted. xxx.

ozzieeagle May 23rd 2008 1:27 am

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Good luck Paul,

Hope all goes well, and dont worry about your son being at Hungry Jacks, some great people have had humble beginnings.

Bix May 23rd 2008 1:29 am

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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 6384682)
Good luck Paul,

Hope all goes well, and dont worry about your son being at Hungry Jacks, some great people have had humble beginnings.

But they didn't eat the burgers :D

Vicky88 May 23rd 2008 3:57 am

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Good luck with your decision, I can understand your thought process.

However, is there another branch of the armed forces that has a lower likelihood of deployment - ie. Navy or Air Force. What are the chances that you would get deployed to Afghanistan or so other place none of us want to be.

Would the police force be an option? I know it is not a trade, however it would be secure employment.

Millie11 May 23rd 2008 4:09 am

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Originally Posted by seang (Post 6384047)
Paul,
Is there a chance in the 6 yrs that you could be sent overseas with the Army? Would check this out as you dont want to end up in baggers or the 'stan.(and also the wife being left behind while u overseas)

That's the risk you take with the army!

Millie11 May 23rd 2008 4:16 am

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Good luck Paul. You will be in good company in the army - there are lot's of Brits transferring from British Defence to the Australian Defence Force :)

Lettik May 23rd 2008 4:24 am

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Sounds like a plan- what are the entry requirements for the army? i.e age, visa status, etc something I could be interested in myself actually

Icarus May 23rd 2008 4:49 am

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Good Luck Dudes

egghead4 May 23rd 2008 4:50 am

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best of luck paul, with whatever you decide:thumbsup:
it seems like you have had your fair share of crap, not its gonna be someone else's turn;)
anyway, good luck
bec

jad n rich May 23rd 2008 9:10 am

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Hey paul , get your son back to do grade 12 , far more chance of any job with grade 12 , even in the trades, son did electrical apprentice, was hundreds of applicants:eek:, all the kids who got accepted had grade 12. 3 years in hes nearly finished ( will graduate early ) and is looking at 80k with all the overtime they do.

camacazi May 23rd 2008 9:51 am

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Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 6386719)
Hey paul , get your son back to do grade 12 , far more chance of any job with grade 12 , even in the trades, son did electrical apprentice, was hundreds of applicants:eek:, all the kids who got accepted had grade 12. 3 years in hes nearly finished ( will graduate early ) and is looking at 80k with all the overtime they do.

Good luck paul !!

snow-white May 23rd 2008 11:05 am

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Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 6383528)
Well, where do I start.

Nic is still in a cast after breaking her ankle. She's casual so it's been 3 weeks since any money came in from her ... feeling the pinch for once! ... :rolleyes: ... and another 3 weeks to go! ... :(

I'm still looking for alternative work, but not having much joy to be honest. I have a few leads, but leads that will prob be more suited to my dog!

Now a PR at last I'm gonna get my arms sorted out. I broke them both in 2003 and they've not grafted (welded together) and altho they've given me jip for years, with a PR case to be decided I've been too scared to have them sorted out here, but as I say now is the time! I'm off to have them x-rayed on Monday and know the news will be bad, they'll NEED to be grafted so it'll be time off work. Time I no doubt won't be able to afford! ... but GOTTA be done if my 'next mission' is gonna be overcomed! ... :unsure:

Next mission?

Well, I'm currently goin nowhere here being unskilled so it's looking like joining the army is my / our best bet. I can do the equivalent of a 4 year apprenticeship in 2 years in the army. We'll get all kinds of benefits inc free healthcare & dentistry, and will gain citizenship after 3 months of joining, which isn't to be sniffed at!

My tie in will be 6 years, but once qualified (Electrician) I'll be on £55k which again, isn't to be sniffed at!

Locations?

Well I have to do 8 weeks on my own in NSW. They tell you NOT to move your family there as you're basically not allowed away from camp. After that, we all move to Victoria for 12 months, followed by 12 - 18 months back in NSW. Once qualified I can opt to be posted back in QLD, either Brissie or Townsville!

My daughter has made her life here on the Goldie and has already said she doesn't want to come. She's gonna obtain her real estate licence soon and is basically sorted. Got a long time boyfriend and only a matter of time before she leaves home anyway!

The boy has left school and working part time for Hungry Jacks, basically goin nowhere so he'll follow suite and do an apprenticeship in the army by the looks of things.

I've got friends and family telling me this seems sooooo extreme, but at the end of the day we're just struggling and there isn't many options for us. The TV will tell you that QLD is crying out for trades, and how they're offering incentives to get mature apprentices and all the rest, but when you actually start looking for a decent (Sparkie or Plumber) apprenticeship, well, they're just NOT out there! I've spent a good 2 weeks phoning, emailing, and all the rest all kinds of apprenticeship centre's, electrical contractors, and everyone who advertises on SEEK and basically no one is interested! ... so what can I do!!

It's annoying as Nic will become permanent once she returns to work, and is sorted! ... but me! ... still clutching at straws and only last week I was sudgesting I go back to blighty again and drive a cab for 2 - 3 months. Nic REALLY doesn't want this, and if the truth be known I don't either! ... but I'm just soooo fed up with scrimping and scraping to get by ... I didn't come here for this!!!

Sooooo, my current mission is to get my arms sorted out so I can do 15 press ups. This is part of the fitness test to get into the army, the rest I know I can pass. Currently I cannot do one as my right arm is basically 50% strong, and down to the bone damage, but hopefully once they're both sorted, and a bit of physio etc I'll be right!

Anyway, that's the current state of play.

Please wish me luck!

sending lots of best wishes and good luck your way, at the end of the day theres no denying the two of you deserve it!! sending karma your way also
all the best lesley x

Amazulu May 23rd 2008 2:28 pm

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Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 6383528)
Well, where do I start.

Nic is still in a cast after breaking her ankle. She's casual so it's been 3 weeks since any money came in from her ... feeling the pinch for once! ... :rolleyes: ... and another 3 weeks to go! ... :(

I'm still looking for alternative work, but not having much joy to be honest. I have a few leads, but leads that will prob be more suited to my dog!

Now a PR at last I'm gonna get my arms sorted out. I broke them both in 2003 and they've not grafted (welded together) and altho they've given me jip for years, with a PR case to be decided I've been too scared to have them sorted out here, but as I say now is the time! I'm off to have them x-rayed on Monday and know the news will be bad, they'll NEED to be grafted so it'll be time off work. Time I no doubt won't be able to afford! ... but GOTTA be done if my 'next mission' is gonna be overcomed! ... :unsure:

Next mission?

Well, I'm currently goin nowhere here being unskilled so it's looking like joining the army is my / our best bet. I can do the equivalent of a 4 year apprenticeship in 2 years in the army. We'll get all kinds of benefits inc free healthcare & dentistry, and will gain citizenship after 3 months of joining, which isn't to be sniffed at!

My tie in will be 6 years, but once qualified (Electrician) I'll be on £55k which again, isn't to be sniffed at!

Locations?

Well I have to do 8 weeks on my own in NSW. They tell you NOT to move your family there as you're basically not allowed away from camp. After that, we all move to Victoria for 12 months, followed by 12 - 18 months back in NSW. Once qualified I can opt to be posted back in QLD, either Brissie or Townsville!

My daughter has made her life here on the Goldie and has already said she doesn't want to come. She's gonna obtain her real estate licence soon and is basically sorted. Got a long time boyfriend and only a matter of time before she leaves home anyway!

The boy has left school and working part time for Hungry Jacks, basically goin nowhere so he'll follow suite and do an apprenticeship in the army by the looks of things.

I've got friends and family telling me this seems sooooo extreme, but at the end of the day we're just struggling and there isn't many options for us. The TV will tell you that QLD is crying out for trades, and how they're offering incentives to get mature apprentices and all the rest, but when you actually start looking for a decent (Sparkie or Plumber) apprenticeship, well, they're just NOT out there! I've spent a good 2 weeks phoning, emailing, and all the rest all kinds of apprenticeship centre's, electrical contractors, and everyone who advertises on SEEK and basically no one is interested! ... so what can I do!!

It's annoying as Nic will become permanent once she returns to work, and is sorted! ... but me! ... still clutching at straws and only last week I was sudgesting I go back to blighty again and drive a cab for 2 - 3 months. Nic REALLY doesn't want this, and if the truth be known I don't either! ... but I'm just soooo fed up with scrimping and scraping to get by ... I didn't come here for this!!!

Sooooo, my current mission is to get my arms sorted out so I can do 15 press ups. This is part of the fitness test to get into the army, the rest I know I can pass. Currently I cannot do one as my right arm is basically 50% strong, and down to the bone damage, but hopefully once they're both sorted, and a bit of physio etc I'll be right!

Anyway, that's the current state of play.

Please wish me luck!

Hope your plan works out. All I can say is the army is great fun until you have to go to war.

Trust me on this, war ain't fun.

Amazulu May 23rd 2008 2:30 pm

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Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 6386719)
Hey paul , get your son back to do grade 12 , far more chance of any job with grade 12 , even in the trades, son did electrical apprentice, was hundreds of applicants:eek:, all the kids who got accepted had grade 12. 3 years in hes nearly finished ( will graduate early ) and is looking at 80k with all the overtime they do.

Also, if he finishes school he will have a better choice of trades available.
ie Avionics instead of sparky.

PaulandNic May 23rd 2008 3:05 pm

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Thanks for the wishes of luck ... :)


Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 6383725)
Going back again to the UK for more work is not the long term solution and whilst it's a lifeline, it caused you all so much stress last time I honestly don't think it's worthwhile.

Oh and I want my laptop back. Are you in this weekend?

I know I know, but it's always there isn't it! With Nic off work for last 3 weeks and another 3 to go we're back in a financial mess so the trip may still be needed ... :(

I'm looking for all kinds of work again, but as I say nothing much goin on for me really ... :(

Yes will be around this weekend.


Originally Posted by seang (Post 6384047)
Paul,
Is there a chance in the 6 yrs that you could be sent overseas with the Army? Would check this out as you dont want to end up in baggers or the 'stan.(and also the wife being left behind while u overseas)

I'm told by a friend at work who's brother has done 30 years with the army here, that they don't send you anywhere if you're over 30! I obv have to check this out 100% but if a chance then it ends there I reckon, don't fancy any of that I'm afraid!!


Originally Posted by curly (Post 6384068)
Paul, I know how fed up you are with work, so as you say it's a way of sorting out the apprenticeship in super quick time, is Nic ok about the move? As you say sometimes you've just got to go for it

Also hope the arm business gets sorted, but it sounds a bit :ohmy: how long with it take to recuperate form the op?

Yeah Nic is ok with it all and might even enlist herself ... :eek: The lady at the army helpdesk said with her skills being in Admin there's a good chance she could find work with em too.

As to the arms, god only knows. I'll need bone taken from the back of my ass apparently ... :eek: ... to be used for grafting on me arms. I can't help but feel it won't be a quick recovery, so again another reason I'll prob have to go back to blighty to earn monies to get us thru!


Originally Posted by Clippy (Post 6384081)
Paul! I've been looking at this thread, wondering how to reply. I just can't think what to say. Everything is always an uphill struggle for you and I just wish you could get a lucky break for once.

Isn't it just!

I'm still not in the right frame of mind at the mo to be honest, but I have to wonder is it all REALLY worth it! I REALLY don't wanna be one of the whatever percent is it that fail here and go back, but can only bang my head on the wall for so long!

Yeah I'm searching for that 'lucky break' but searching isn't finding!! ... :(


Originally Posted by Vicky88 (Post 6385367)
However, is there another branch of the armed forces that has a lower likelihood of deployment - ie. Navy or Air Force. What are the chances that you would get deployed to Afghanistan or so other place none of us want to be.

Would the police force be an option? I know it is not a trade, however it would be secure employment.

Well as I say I'm told over 30's won't get sent anywhere, but it is only what I'm told. It's gotta come from some kind of authority or it's with a pinch of salt as we speak.

I don't think the police would take me, but couldn't do that job to be honest.


Originally Posted by Lettik (Post 6385533)
Sounds like a plan- what are the entry requirements for the army? i.e age, visa status, etc something I could be interested in myself actually

age 17 - 50 something, need to be a PR or citizen, and have grade 10 or equivilent. Fit and healty too! ... :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 6386719)
Hey paul , get your son back to do grade 12 , far more chance of any job with grade 12 , even in the trades, son did electrical apprentice, was hundreds of applicants:eek:, all the kids who got accepted had grade 12. 3 years in hes nearly finished ( will graduate early ) and is looking at 80k with all the overtime they do.

I keep telling him this, but at the same time can't force him. Both the kids have left school without a qualification, yet both were doing VERY well in the UK and scheduled to get good grades!!

The Aussie school system is crap if you ask me, but another story. They'll do ok tho, they're not silly believe it or not.


Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 6387399)
Hope your plan works out. All I can say is the army is great fun until you have to go to war.

Trust me on this, war ain't fun.

Yeah no war for me. If a chance then as I say that's another plan that falls on it's face! ... :(

Amazulu May 23rd 2008 3:11 pm

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Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 6387454)
Yeah no war for me. If a chance then as I say that's another plan that falls on it's face! ... :(

Trouble with this is that if the army say that you're going, you're going and there is nothing you can do about - apart from deserting, which would probably mean going to jail. The problem with joining the army is that it's not a 'normal' career as such. You will be a soldier first - everything else comes second - and soldiers fight wars.

PaulandNic May 23rd 2008 3:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 6387459)
Trouble with this is that if the army say that you're going, you're going and there is nothing you can do about - apart from deserting, which would probably mean going to jail. The problem with joining the army is that it's not a 'normal' career as such. You will be a soldier first - everything else comes second - and soldiers fight wars.

Yeah this is why I NEED to get it clarified. If a real chance then it aint gonna happen, and back to sq1 ... :unsure:

I'm gonna call the helpdesk now, but am wondering if they'll tell me 'whatever' to get me to enlist! ... :rolleyes:

PaulandNic May 23rd 2008 8:41 pm

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Well it turns out this line about over 30's not going anywhere is a load of ole tutt! ... :rolleyes:

Also the chances of getting posted back at Brisbane will be asking as LOADS of people want to be posted there! Darwin is looking more likely! ... :eek:

Still, even with that said it's still looking fav as I'm goin nowhere as we speak, so will get me arms sorted out and go from there.

mr luvpants May 23rd 2008 9:13 pm

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Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 6383528)
Well, I'm currently goin nowhere here being unskilled so it's looking like joining the army is my / our best bet. I can do the equivalent of a 4 year apprenticeship in 2 years in the army. We'll get all kinds of benefits inc free healthcare & dentistry, and will gain citizenship after 3 months of joining, which isn't to be sniffed at!

My tie in will be 6 years, but once qualified (Electrician) I'll be on £55k which again, isn't to be sniffed at!

Just being nosey but how old are you?

PaulandNic May 23rd 2008 9:24 pm

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Originally Posted by mr luvpants (Post 6388115)
Just being nosey but how old are you?

Just short of 38

Clippy May 24th 2008 9:21 am

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Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 6388033)
Well it turns out this line about over 30's not going anywhere is a load of ole tutt! ... :rolleyes:

Also the chances of getting posted back at Brisbane will be asking as LOADS of people want to be posted there! Darwin is looking more likely! ... :eek:

Still, even with that said it's still looking fav as I'm goin nowhere as we speak, so will get me arms sorted out and go from there.

Darwin! :unsure:

Vicky88 May 25th 2008 3:46 am

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Actually Darwin is not the end of the world, far worse places you could be sent.

I thought it was a load of tosh that you would not be deployed overseas after 30 as I know people it has happened to. Whatabout the Navy or Air Force, if they are deployed they tend not to be as front line as Army.

Vicky88 May 25th 2008 3:48 am

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Just had another thought - if you think you could tolerate living in Darwin there is absolutely no need to join the Army.

There is plenty of work in Darwin and you will easily get something on your own. Anyone who is prepared to work can get something.

My sister lives there, husband is not skilled and it took him a good 18 months to get a permanent position, but in the meantime he was never out of work.

Brisben May 25th 2008 9:24 am

Re: Update - For the few that are interested.
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 6383528)
Well, where do I start.

Nic is still in a cast after breaking her ankle. She's casual so it's been 3 weeks since any money came in from her ... feeling the pinch for once! ... :rolleyes: ... and another 3 weeks to go! ... :(

I'm still looking for alternative work, but not having much joy to be honest. I have a few leads, but leads that will prob be more suited to my dog!

Now a PR at last I'm gonna get my arms sorted out. I broke them both in 2003 and they've not grafted (welded together) and altho they've given me jip for years, with a PR case to be decided I've been too scared to have them sorted out here, but as I say now is the time! I'm off to have them x-rayed on Monday and know the news will be bad, they'll NEED to be grafted so it'll be time off work. Time I no doubt won't be able to afford! ... but GOTTA be done if my 'next mission' is gonna be overcomed! ... :unsure:

Next mission?

Well, I'm currently goin nowhere here being unskilled so it's looking like joining the army is my / our best bet. I can do the equivalent of a 4 year apprenticeship in 2 years in the army. We'll get all kinds of benefits inc free healthcare & dentistry, and will gain citizenship after 3 months of joining, which isn't to be sniffed at!

My tie in will be 6 years, but once qualified (Electrician) I'll be on £55k which again, isn't to be sniffed at!

Locations?

Well I have to do 8 weeks on my own in NSW. They tell you NOT to move your family there as you're basically not allowed away from camp. After that, we all move to Victoria for 12 months, followed by 12 - 18 months back in NSW. Once qualified I can opt to be posted back in QLD, either Brissie or Townsville!

My daughter has made her life here on the Goldie and has already said she doesn't want to come. She's gonna obtain her real estate licence soon and is basically sorted. Got a long time boyfriend and only a matter of time before she leaves home anyway!

The boy has left school and working part time for Hungry Jacks, basically goin nowhere so he'll follow suite and do an apprenticeship in the army by the looks of things.

I've got friends and family telling me this seems sooooo extreme, but at the end of the day we're just struggling and there isn't many options for us. The TV will tell you that QLD is crying out for trades, and how they're offering incentives to get mature apprentices and all the rest, but when you actually start looking for a decent (Sparkie or Plumber) apprenticeship, well, they're just NOT out there! I've spent a good 2 weeks phoning, emailing, and all the rest all kinds of apprenticeship centre's, electrical contractors, and everyone who advertises on SEEK and basically no one is interested! ... so what can I do!!

It's annoying as Nic will become permanent once she returns to work, and is sorted! ... but me! ... still clutching at straws and only last week I was sudgesting I go back to blighty again and drive a cab for 2 - 3 months. Nic REALLY doesn't want this, and if the truth be known I don't either! ... but I'm just soooo fed up with scrimping and scraping to get by ... I didn't come here for this!!!

Sooooo, my current mission is to get my arms sorted out so I can do 15 press ups. This is part of the fitness test to get into the army, the rest I know I can pass. Currently I cannot do one as my right arm is basically 50% strong, and down to the bone damage, but hopefully once they're both sorted, and a bit of physio etc I'll be right!

Anyway, that's the current state of play.

Please wish me luck!


Good Luck Paul, If I can help, shout me !!

Brisben May 25th 2008 9:25 am

Re: Update - For the few that are interested.
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 6388133)
Just short of 38

or just short?


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