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Old Sep 19th 2007 | 12:48 am
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Originally Posted by paulburt
simple question, why come on here asking for info, then in your next post tell everyone that they're all daft to be going in the first?
Not telling anyone they daft just made an observation ! thats all sorry if i upset anyone ! it wasn't meant to be taken that way............
 
Old Sep 19th 2007 | 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by Gremmie
If you are looking into Ontario read this:- and may i suggest you send an E.mail to the Ontario Trucking Assoc and ask them which if any companies do PNP + the rules and regs of the PNP in ON. I did the same for Manitoba and they were very helpful



Canada-Ontario Commit to Introduce Provincial Nominee Program
Could Help Qualified Foreign Truck Drivers Come to Ontario
(Toronto, Nov. 21, 2005) – Today, official word of a new Canada-Ontario immigration agreement was signed and includes the commitment to develop a Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) within the next 12 months. A PNP will allow the Province of Ontario to select immigrants based on skilled worker shortages. The province would identify a specific skills need, and facilitate their immigration to Ontario. According to today’s joint federal/provincial announcement, over the next twelve months, Ontario will develop a pilot PNP. As well, during this time, Canada and Ontario will develop the terms of a Temporary Foreign Worker agreement. These programs will give Ontario the opportunity to identify newcomers who will help meet its economic priorities and labour market objectives. Ontario is one of the last provinces to put in place a provincial nominee program.
Many Ontario Trucking Association members have been keen to see such an agreement consummated. Carriers in other parts of the country, including Saskatchewan and Atlantic Canada have recently been successful, for example, in bringing in a limited number of truck drivers from the British Isles. This announcement, combined with last week’s announcement that truck driving is now an apprenticeable and therefore skilled trade, could enhance the chances of truck drivers being included in the program.
Ontario’s trucking industry is facing a severe shortage of drivers. The trucking industry has one of the oldest workforces, with more that 13% of the drivers being over than 55 years old. A recent federal study indicated that Ontario needs 20,000 new truck drivers a year just to keep pace with economic growth and the retirement of these older drivers.
OTA president, David Bradley cautions that the details still need to be worked out over the next 12 months, but says there is a growing awareness of a long-term driver shortage that is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. Bradley also cautions that even if truck drivers are included in a PNP, “it is not a slam dunk process, carriers have to seek out qualified people and make certain commitments. The floodgates are not going to open.” So, he says “current drivers do not have to fear an influx of new drivers. The tight capacity that has been reflected in the market in recent years will continue going forward. A PNP would provide some potential relief for those carriers that wish to avail themselves of the opportunity.”
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at this moment in time there are no ontario companies involved in pnp for foreign drivers basically because it dosn't exist, the job is not on the skilled worker list but is on the pilot list for lesser qualified jobs meaning it dosn't qualify for pnp but you can get a wp for the two year max, your then at liberty to apply for pr and you still get the ten points for already having a job there, bit of gamble but it seem possible, obviously having family already in the province is a big help.
reading up on the net it seems that everyone involved in the job is pushing for truck driving to be put on the skilled list and included in a wider pnp which at the mo is restricted to 500 applicants a year for all trades, vocations etc, so in six months time things could be very different.
 
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Originally Posted by paulburt
at this moment in time there are no ontario companies involved in pnp for foreign drivers basically because it dosn't exist, the job is not on the skilled worker list but is on the pilot list for lesser qualified jobs meaning it dosn't qualify for pnp but you can get a wp for the two year max, your then at liberty to apply for pr and you still get the ten points for already having a job there, bit of gamble but it seem possible, obviously having family already in the province is a big help.
reading up on the net it seems that everyone involved in the job is pushing for truck driving to be put on the skilled list and included in a wider pnp which at the mo is restricted to 500 applicants a year for all trades, vocations etc, so in six months time things could be very different.
Cheers mate ! appriciate your advice, guess i'll have to keep on looking for other oppotunitys, i wish you and your family the best !
 
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well i'm not so sure, we have family there as well and basically that combined with a job is enough to more or less insure anybody would acrue the min amount of points for pr "IF" truckdriving is added to the skilled worker list? if not it dosn't qualify for the ten points, at least thats how i read it.
the recruiter at challenger is willing to look into it for me as i've made it clear i'd only be interested in imigration rather than a temp job, i'll post on here as and when i hear something.
 
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i think the pair of you should still contact the Ontario Truck Assoc and ask for "upto" date info,or look into other provinces. The need for drivers is becomming paramount,and the rules and regs for immigration seem to change almost daily.
 
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Originally Posted by paulburt
well i'm not so sure, we have family there as well and basically that combined with a job is enough to more or less insure anybody would acrue the min amount of points for pr "IF" truckdriving is added to the skilled worker list? if not it dosn't qualify for the ten points, at least thats how i read it.
the recruiter at challenger is willing to look into it for me as i've made it clear i'd only be interested in imigration rather than a temp job, i'll post on here as and when i hear something.
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are you in contact with anyone specific at challenger? did you call them on-spec?
we were quite impressed with the challenger website when perusing several ON trucking companies some weeks ago, it gives a "good" feeling about the company generally, so would be good to hear about personal experiences anyone has had with the company.
i've even seen a job in the offices that i could do whilst OH is away in his truck! lol
 
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Originally Posted by CHRISRICHES
Do you have enough points for the SW class?, as if you have a job you get 15 more points (10 for arranged employment, 5 for adaptability - so you could get a job offer, go over on a TWP, then apply for SW (they fast track applications from people who are already working in Canada
Can i just point out here that you are right by what you say however, the job offer must be listed on the NOC list of Canadian skilled occupations, and a 'long haul truck driver' is not on the NOC list (as yet). So you could not award yourself 15 points for a job offer of a truck driver as they would'nt accept it for a skilled worker visa.

Just incase you were thinking otherwise mate.
 
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Can i just point out here that you are right by what you say however, the job offer must be listed on the NOC list of Canadian skilled occupations, and a 'long haul truck driver' is not on the NOC list (as yet). So you could not award yourself 15 points for a job offer of a truck driver as they would'nt accept it for a skilled worker visa.

Just incase you were thinking otherwise mate.
Sorry forgot to say I'm looking into taking the Red Seal exam for Truck Mechanics - was thinking of going as a driver, but want to see if I can pass the exam for mech first.

I did hear of someone getting PR from driving, as it was "hidden" on the NOC list somewhere, will try and find out more details.
 
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Originally Posted by thundercat600
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are you in contact with anyone specific at challenger? did you call them on-spec?
we were quite impressed with the challenger website when perusing several ON trucking companies some weeks ago, it gives a "good" feeling about the company generally, so would be good to hear about personal experiences anyone has had with the company.
i've even seen a job in the offices that i could do whilst OH is away in his truck! lol
just sent an email with attached cv the same as i sent to about twenty companies in the province, only challenger showed any interest and sent an application back the same day for me to fill out but what you've got to bare in mind is at the mo it is a temp job for two years max and carries none of the employer conditions of pnp, no paid flights etc etc, basically they find you accomidation and feed you for the first week after that your on your own!
realistically we're looking at these jobs as something to maybe move to once we have pr if we don't like the area we've had to go to to get in via pnp which at the minute looks like being manitoba or alberta unless as mentioned they put truck driving on the skilled list in the next few months?
 
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thanks paulbert
we're not going the PNP or TWP route as i'm sponsoring my OH under the family class so, fingers crossed it all goes through ok, he'll have PR. trying to get personal-experience info about companies in ON has been quite difficult on here as most drivers are going the PNP route and therefore to AB,SK & MB.

i'd be interested to hear of any other companies to which drivers go once they've done the PNP and have PR

can i ask which other companies you contacted?
do you know of any car-transporter companies (like we get here rather than the covered-trailer stuff i've managed to find) i've seen pics of "normal" car-transporters but having difficulty finding any companies listed.

we're off to toronto in 3 weeks time for a recce so going to try calling ahead to arrange meetings when we're there
 
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thanks paulbert
we're not going the PNP or TWP route as i'm sponsoring my OH under the family class so, fingers crossed it all goes through ok, he'll have PR. trying to get personal-experience info about companies in ON has been quite difficult on here as most drivers are going the PNP route and therefore to AB,SK & MB.

i'd be interested to hear of any other companies to which drivers go once they've done the PNP and have PR

can i ask which other companies you contacted?
do you know of any car-transporter companies (like we get here rather than the covered-trailer stuff i've managed to find) i've seen pics of "normal" car-transporters but having difficulty finding any companies listed.

we're off to toronto in 3 weeks time for a recce so going to try calling ahead to arrange meetings when we're there
Take a look at the following:
www.erbgroup.com
www.laidlaw.ca
www.bisontransport.com
www.midlandtransport.com
I think most of the above have a pretty decent rep for wages/working conditions etc and I have read of quite a few drivers leaving the prairie provinces after they have got their PR to work for the above companies in either Ont or the Maritimes.
 
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if you go on the OTA website theres a carriers link, you'll find hundreds on there most with websites telling you what sort of work they do.
must admit car transporting isn't something i'd fancy in the snow but each to their own.
 
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thanks BT, i'd got them all bookmarked but always good to have a bit of recommendation, with so many trucking companies out there you just never know who the good ones are!

paulburt - off-loading cars in the snow's not my my idea of fun either but OH's done cars for the last 12 years so knows them best! have looked on the OTA and a lot of the "car-movers" seem to be moving private cars for people rather than transporting in bulk. i'm sure they must do it, there's so many car manufacturers in the area, how do they transport to dealers etc, can't all be by rail???

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