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Turts05 Jun 18th 2015 8:08 am

looking to emigrate from the UK
 
Hi all.
I am a cat CE driver here in the UK aged 37, licence had for 9 years.
my family and I would love to permanently move out to Canada, ideally Ontario due to friends being there already, although after looking a bit deeper in to it i see Ontario don't offer the Perm residency for truck driving.
Is this likely to change do we think ?
Or is another province better choice ?
Cheers

neilg14 Jun 18th 2015 1:31 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 
Who knows if PR will change in ON, things change out here at the flip of a coin. There is a lack of LMIA's at the minute and as has been said on other threads a downturn in the oil industry, so plenty of Canadian drivers to go round.
If you're desperate to get out here, take a job wherever you can, then move where you want after PR.

christmasoompa Jun 18th 2015 6:11 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 

Originally Posted by neilg14 (Post 11679086)
Who knows if PR will change in ON, things change out here at the flip of a coin.

They do, but I'm not sure this would be among any changes. ON just doesn't need to attract 'unskilled' workers, unlike other provinces.

In my 8 years of working in immigration and being a mod on this forum it's never been possible to get PR as a trucker in Ontario and I can't see that changing anytime soon tbh.

neilg14 Jun 18th 2015 8:56 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 
So, Turts05, it looks like you'd be better off finding another Province but as I said previously LMIA's are thin on the ground at the minute, just have to keep your eyes open.
Have a look on Kijiji, jobbank.ca & indeedjobs.ca and also truckstopnews.co.uk although I haven't seen any Canadian companies advertising in there since about July last year.
Keep looking on here, occasionally someone will post if they've seen or heard about any LMIA's available.

Turts05 Jun 18th 2015 9:45 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 
Cheers for the comments guys,
Looks like it could be a long tricky road in then, I'll keep looking though with fingers crossed, in hindsight should have applied a few years back when we first thought about it now the LMIA is a pricey option for the employers .
Would you guys recommend an agency to work for me and help find an opening or better to do all my own groundwork ?
TIA

Kiowan Jun 19th 2015 6:00 am

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 
Do not use an agent whatever you do, they will just rob you of thousands and will not really help you find a job, they specifically state they wont do that in their contract, you only have to google the agents names to find out how little they do.

I remember back in 2007 when I first looked into it all Ontario wouldn't issue visas from truck drivers i'm sure but since then they will, just no PNP scheme for us. Also back then BC wouldn't do either but now they have a truck driver PNP so there is a chance it'll change.

The thing you have to consider is that they want to encourage more spread out immigration rather than everyone just going straight to Vancouver and Toronto which is why the provinces all have their own PNPs are want you to stay there. It's the same with NZ, you get extra points for going outside of Auckland. So if you want to go to one of the two main cities in Canada you can expect a harder time doing so.

Turts05 Jun 19th 2015 7:43 am

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 
Thanks Kiowan.
Looks like Manitoba like Ontario don't offer perm either .

neilg14 Jun 19th 2015 12:41 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 
Mantoba do.

localhero73 Jun 19th 2015 6:10 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 
hi guys just reading through some of the post whats the LMIA PNP short for?
I'm looking at working in Canada I've got 16 yrs class 1 experience of many different types i.e car transporters, steel etc I'm not looking to emigrate as of yet, a working holiday approx 1 yr at a time to see how things go, is this a better option rather than applying for residency? thanks

christmasoompa Jun 19th 2015 9:38 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 

Originally Posted by Turts05 (Post 11679764)
Thanks Kiowan.
Looks like Manitoba like Ontario don't offer perm either .

Manitoba definitely do, under their PNP. It's one of the two most popular provinces for truckers as you've got the best chance of PR there (SK and MB). You need to have worked in MB for at least 6 months before you can apply and be on a valid work permit, but that's how a lot on here have got PR.


Originally Posted by localhero73 (Post 11680083)
hi guys just reading through some of the post whats the LMIA PNP short for?
I'm looking at working in Canada I've got 16 yrs class 1 experience of many different types i.e car transporters, steel etc I'm not looking to emigrate as of yet, a working holiday approx 1 yr at a time to see how things go, is this a better option rather than applying for residency? thanks

LMIA - Labour Market Impact Assessment. Basically an assessment by the Canadian government that your employer has to apply for (at a cost of $1000 to them), to prove that they can't find an Canadian willing or able to do the job and so need to hire a foreign worker.

PNP - Provincial Nominee Program.

Both of these terms are listed in the Wiki article about Canadian immigration abbreviations, you can find it from the main Canada section of the forum if you follow the 'Newbies please read me' link on there.

It doesn't sound to me as though you'd qualify for a working holiday visa if you've got 16 years of experience, as they're only for people aged 30 or under? So you could go over on a LMIA/TWP if you can find an employer prepared to sponsor you (as said above, very rare these days), you don't have to apply for PR once there if you don't want to but that's up to you.

If you have any further visa related questions, then the immi section of the Canada forum is the best place to ask them.

HTH, good luck.

christmasoompa Jun 19th 2015 9:42 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 

Originally Posted by Kiowan (Post 11679641)
Also back then BC wouldn't do either but now they have a truck driver PNP so there is a chance it'll change.

BC has accepted truckers since 2008 under their PNP.

HTH.

localhero73 Jun 19th 2015 11:11 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 11680163)
Manitoba definitely do, under their PNP. It's one of the two most popular provinces for truckers as you've got the best chance of PR there (SK and MB). You need to have worked in MB for at least 6 months before you can apply and be on a valid work permit, but that's how a lot on here have got PR.



LMIA - Labour Market Impact Assessment. Basically an assessment by the Canadian government that your employer has to apply for (at a cost of $1000 to them), to prove that they can't find an Canadian willing or able to do the job and so need to hire a foreign worker.

PNP - Provincial Nominee Program.

Both of these terms are listed in the Wiki article about Canadian immigration abbreviations, you can find it from the main Canada section of the forum if you follow the 'Newbies please read me' link on there.

It doesn't sound to me as though you'd qualify for a working holiday visa if you've got 16 years of experience, as they're only for people aged 30 or under? So you could go over on a LMIA/TWP if you can find an employer prepared to sponsor you (as said above, very rare these days), you don't have to apply for PR once there if you don't want to but that's up to you.

If you have any further visa related questions, then the immi section of the Canada forum is the best place to ask them.

HTH, good luck.

thanks!

Turts05 Jun 20th 2015 6:03 am

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 
Manitoba looks like we could fit In There I cant seem to find confirmation that truck drivers could potentially get in though found other careers any links for this info ,?
Thanks

jamesmc Jun 20th 2015 12:47 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 
Mb is where a lot of us received PR without any problems......in MB the Pr application is in your hands and not at your employers whims like other provinces.

Kiowan Jun 20th 2015 1:02 pm

Re: looking to emigrate from the UK
 
Manitoba PNP definitely accepts truck drivers, i'm in the middle of the process at the moment.


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