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dustyhoward Apr 3rd 2013 12:12 am

Re: Loblaw
 
Where in England do you earn$2400 a week?

dustyhoward Apr 3rd 2013 12:13 am

Re: Loblaw
 
You get all of that working for loblaws?

dustyhoward Apr 3rd 2013 12:16 am

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You get family life too unlike in England Scotland or wales and for those of you who moan about the rentals here its on par with the uk minus council tax car tax you don't pay and the price of petrol is almost half price and that's just for starters

dustyhoward Apr 3rd 2013 12:18 am

Re: Loblaw
 
It's repeated for meq

flat to the mat Apr 3rd 2013 2:38 am

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Why can't you just use on post for your tirade DH ?? It make the reading that much more comprehensible .
If I were a newbie again I'd consider 650 in the bank per week alright , it's only for a short time until you can move on to better jobs , and there isn't a shortage of work here . So for a better lifestyle plus ,endless further opportunities and little stress it must be worth a shot .
Has anyone ever earnt the quoted $2400 in a week , assume that's gross , if so what was involved ? Don't get too excited over $144 extra for working a stat holiday , got $275 and I was at home on days off :D

mickfly Apr 3rd 2013 5:42 am

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by dustyhoward (Post 10637359)
Where in England do you earn$2400 a week?

CDN 2,400 a week? That's CDN 124,800 a year!

Can you give us an example of how this money will be made up (or scan a wage slip for us to look at), thanks.

I'm sure there will be some families willing to pack up and move over for those promised earnings

meritor Apr 3rd 2013 9:04 am

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by northboy (Post 10637124)
so $72000 less 28% tax $51840 less rent ($18000) $33840 divide by 52 = $650 still not a lot when you look at it, i make more than that here ,, divide that by 1.50 = £344:rofl:

Northboy why have you taken the rent off the net take home pay???

Your figure's are still wrong,deduction's are nearer to +30%,Mine last year ran at 33%,The exchange rate at the moment is around $1.63 6years ago it was around $2.10,As the exchange rate does not come into it so why are you working this out??.

THE GB POUND DOES NOT EXSIST IN CANADA,IN CASE YOU HAD NOT NOTICED THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CURRENCY.

russjp Apr 3rd 2013 12:33 pm

Re: Loblaw
 
I think the point being made Northboy is that you are making the fatal mistake of converting everything in GBP. The Canadian dollar goes a lot further than the pound and you get a lot more for your money. Until you stop converting it back into GBP you will never truly get a grip on the value of moving and working here. If its any consolation, we do the same when food shopping at Walmart. It's very easy to walk round converting everything over and thinking 'wow, that's really expensive' but it's all relative when you think for example a loaf of bread here is about $3 or £2 a loaf BUT if you're making $2000-$2500 bi weekly it's at least double what you'd make back home so the costs become relative to earnings - STOP CONVERTING THE CURRENCY - trust me it makes all the difference :-)

russjp Apr 3rd 2013 12:35 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by mickfly (Post 10637559)
CDN 2,400 a week? That's CDN 124,800 a year!

Can you give us an example of how this money will be made up (or scan a wage slip for us to look at), thanks.

I'm sure there will be some families willing to pack up and move over for those promised earnings

We don't get issued with paper wageslips apparently now, all electronic mate

mickfly Apr 3rd 2013 3:35 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by russjp (Post 10637998)
We don't get issued with paper wageslips apparently now, all electronic mate

My point is that DH is saying you can earn CDN 2,400 A WEEK! People will be seeing Loony signs and packing their bags to come over now, but I don't believe the figure, so as DH is ignoring me, does anyone have proof of those CDN 100,000 plus earning?

northboy Apr 3rd 2013 5:01 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by tattoo99 (Post 10637153)
But you sit in endless traffic jams (M6-M1)
45 min break a day plus extra if you drive more than
The nine
No decent truckstops (most closed down )
Sorry pal but that's what I want to get away from Your welcome to it !
:thumbup:

cant fault mate really. :thumbsup:this place is shit just cant afford to do the dream at the minute ,,i wish you the very best :fingerscrossed: tattoo

northboy Apr 3rd 2013 5:49 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by mickfly (Post 10637559)
CDN 2,400 a week? That's CDN 124,800 a year!

Can you give us an example of how this money will be made up (or scan a wage slip for us to look at), thanks.

I'm sure there will be some families willing to pack up and move over for those promised earnings

:thumbsup: and i would be over there on the next plane if that was the weekly income . but as things stand ,just not a choice at the minute may be one day when me 3 kids naff off lol and i can live a peaceful life and chill lol ohh a joke:D

northboy Apr 3rd 2013 6:18 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by meritor (Post 10637732)
Northboy why have you taken the rent off the net take home pay???

Your figure's are still wrong,deduction's are nearer to +30%,Mine last year ran at 33%,The exchange rate at the moment is around $1.63 6years ago it was around $2.10,As the exchange rate does not come into it so why are you working this out??.

THE GB POUND DOES NOT EXSIST IN CANADA,IN CASE YOU HAD NOT NOTICED THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CURRENCY.

if thats the case.if any one wanted to pack up and go back to UK god knows why:unsure:, surely your little nest egg would be at the UK exchange rate :unsure: ???? but i get where you are coming from with the CDN ,YES you may get more for the dollar over there. the rent is taken off after your tax is taken off your top line , which is your yearly wage. give or take a few hundred dollars giving the tax at 28%/33% tax rate .unless you don't pay rent but if you do it must come out of your wagers at some point. hence

garvs11 Apr 3rd 2013 7:53 pm

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$2400 PER WEEK IM Packing Already where do i sign,maybe i would have to see a payslip and what is involved to get this sum before i jump ship again.
$9,600 per 4 weeks that is AWESOME.

dustyhoward Apr 3rd 2013 8:23 pm

Re: Loblaw
 
I'm not ignoring anyone I just don't get carried away on here
If you do Winnipeg and back 5 days a week it's 2400 a week I can't show you a wage slip because I don't do Winnipeg it doesn't suit me unlike lots on here I'm not here in Canada just to make money I take home 2400 a fortnight and that's fine for me
But if you work for loblaw pulling pykes to winnipeg 5 days a week 2400 you earn a week

dustyhoward Apr 3rd 2013 8:26 pm

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So if you want to work for loblaw that's what you can earn
It's not black magic or lottery numbers
You work 13 hours a day but you earn 2400 a week

dustyhoward Apr 3rd 2013 8:28 pm

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I have done Winnipeg so I know how much it is so for the first time it seems loblaw will pay you what they say
You get paid extra for refuelling and various other things not I repeat NOT just mileage

northboy Apr 3rd 2013 9:52 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by dustyhoward (Post 10638841)
I'm not ignoring anyone I just don't get carried away on here
If you do Winnipeg and back 5 days a week it's 2400 a week I can't show you a wage slip because I don't do Winnipeg it doesn't suit me unlike lots on here I'm not here in Canada just to make money I take home 2400 a fortnight and that's fine for me
But if you work for loblaw pulling pykes to winnipeg 5 days a week 2400 you earn a week

:eek::eek::eek: that's some mileage 5730 km a week over 5 days drive a man to drink that ,,:confused: thats like doing London to Glasgow and back 5 days a week or nights // either way soon get p/off with that i say

dustyhoward Apr 3rd 2013 11:08 pm

Re: Loblaw
 
Looks like you really don't want to be in Canada do you northboy

russjp Apr 4th 2013 12:28 am

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by northboy (Post 10639014)
:eek::eek::eek: that's some mileage 5730 km a week over 5 days drive a man to drink that ,,:confused: thats like doing London to Glasgow and back 5 days a week or nights // either way soon get p/off with that i say

You`re not actually driving into Winnipeg every night but swapping pikes over before you reach that point but as DH says you can make this sort of money at Loblaws due to the way the wage is structured.

Chicken lights and chrome Apr 4th 2013 3:04 am

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Originally Posted by northboy (Post 10639014)
:eek::eek::eek: that's some mileage 5730 km a week over 5 days drive a man to drink that ,,:confused: thats like doing London to Glasgow and back 5 days a week or nights // either way soon get p/off with that i say

OMG I'm going to agree with Crusty here:eek:

Regina - Winnipeg - Regina is a piece of piss, it may seem a lot, but there is nothing in the way, only four sets of lights between the two and if they're green you run through at 80km/h, you can time it so they are green as they have warning lights that tell you if they're about to change. A 13hr day is about right if you include the changeover at Winnipeg.

Wouldn't fancy doing it every day, but four on four off would be fine and you could always do a run on one of your rest days, or do six on two off every other week, still have decent home time and if Crusty's wage claims are true, you'd be making a nice living:thumbup:

You will work longer hours in Canada, no doubt about that, but a 16hr day here is half as tiring as a 15hr day in the UK. Even so, you won't get the easy life, you have to work at it, but at least you can do that, there's no WTD or other bullshit dictating when you can work, as long as your log book is good, you can graft, not only can you do it, you'll be expected too, but then maybe that's why the Canadian Economy is better shape than the European Economy:eek:

The cost of living here is comparitive to the UK in some respects, groceries for example, but in others it's much cheaper, houses and cars are cheaper and they're likely to be your biggest outlay, so the standard of living is higher.

Renting does seem very dear there though, when I first arrived here in 08 a two bedroom apartment was $650pm, but that wasn't in Regina, or SK at all, so I don't know if it's expensive there as the oil money is starting to push up prices, or whether it's always been that way.

heydon1983 Apr 4th 2013 4:07 am

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by Chicken lights and chrome (Post 10639364)
OMG I'm going to agree with Crusty here:eek:

Regina - Winnipeg - Regina is a piece of piss, it may seem a lot, but there is nothing in the way, only four sets of lights between the two and if they're green you run through at 80km/h, you can time it so they are green as they have warning lights that tell you if they're about to change. A 13hr day is about right if you include the changeover at Winnipeg.

Wouldn't fancy doing it every day, but four on four off would be fine and you could always do a run on one of your rest days, or do six on two off every other week, still have decent home time and if Crusty's wage claims are true, you'd be making a nice living:thumbup:

You will work longer hours in Canada, no doubt about that, but a 16hr day here is half as tiring as a 15hr day in the UK. Even so, you won't get the easy life, you have to work at it, but at least you can do that, there's no WTD or other bullshit dictating when you can work, as long as your log book is good, you can graft, not only can you do it, you'll be expected too, but then maybe that's why the Canadian Economy is better shape than the European Economy:eek:

The cost of living here is comparitive to the UK in some respects, groceries for example, but in others it's much cheaper, houses and cars are cheaper and they're likely to be your biggest outlay, so the standard of living is higher.

Renting does seem very dear there though, when I first arrived here in 08 a two bedroom apartment was $650pm, but that wasn't in Regina, or SK at all, so I don't know if it's expensive there as the oil money is starting to push up prices, or whether it's always been that way.

That's a good wage maybe I should pack my oil field job in and go and drive for loblaws :eek:

northboy Apr 4th 2013 7:24 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by dustyhoward (Post 10639138)
Looks like you really don't want to be in Canada do you northboy

hell yer dusty but kicking on 50 doing the theory tests and driving test . driving on the other side of the road don,t bother me did it for years while on hols in the USA and them hours. setting up new home and the PR thing ,think am a little long in the tooth now well may be ,just could i live on the wage with four other family members. r:confused:

flat to the mat Apr 5th 2013 12:25 am

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How can you legally do a Regina Winnipeg switch in 13 or 14 hours running PIKEYS ?
Hang on a moment this might be a repeat post :eek: 15 mins pre trip , then the mandatory tire stops en route ,into the Peg to your change over must be at least 61/2 hours from the GTH , refuel the truck is another 15 mins ,split your PIKEYS and hook your next set, which can be all done in another 15 mins :rofl: , and another 61/2 drive at least back to the GTH ,before refueling again for the next guy , then splitting the trailers and parking the truck ?
Absolutely impossible to to that run within the 14 hour rule ,legally, if anyone begs to differ then then I'd sure like to see the evidence , without considering the weather into the equation ?

russjp Apr 5th 2013 3:02 am

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by flat to the mat (Post 10641179)
How can you legally do a Regina Winnipeg switch in 13 or 14 hours running PIKEYS ?
Hang on a moment this might be a repeat post :eek: 15 mins pre trip , then the mandatory tire stops en route ,into the Peg to your change over must be at least 61/2 hours from the GTH , refuel the truck is another 15 mins ,split your PIKEYS and hook your next set, which can be all done in another 15 mins :rofl: , and another 61/2 drive at least back to the GTH ,before refueling again for the next guy , then splitting the trailers and parking the truck ?
Absolutely impossible to to that run within the 14 hour rule ,legally, if anyone begs to differ then then I'd sure like to see the evidence , without considering the weather into the equation ?

Pikes don't go all the way to Winnipeg mate, switches are done at headingley from what I'm told but not got on the road yet, test next week :-)

northboy Apr 5th 2013 7:52 am

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by russjp (Post 10641317)
Pikes don't go all the way to Winnipeg mate, switches are done at headingley from what I'm told but not got on the road yet, test next week :-)

And thats when you will know if the runs are OTT :confused:russjp .it all seams very long nights when you read up . and if you look at the Google maps . its still under 6 hours each way with and your checks unhitching wheel checks.long long nights . 13 hours min over the shift patterns 4 on 4 off /6 on 2 off .can break the best of men.

Chicken lights and chrome Apr 5th 2013 8:26 am

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by flat to the mat (Post 10641179)
How can you legally do a Regina Winnipeg switch in 13 or 14 hours running PIKEYS ?
Hang on a moment this might be a repeat post :eek: 15 mins pre trip , then the mandatory tire stops en route ,into the Peg to your change over must be at least 61/2 hours from the GTH , refuel the truck is another 15 mins ,split your PIKEYS and hook your next set, which can be all done in another 15 mins :rofl: , and another 61/2 drive at least back to the GTH ,before refueling again for the next guy , then splitting the trailers and parking the truck ?
Absolutely impossible to to that run within the 14 hour rule ,legally, if anyone begs to differ then then I'd sure like to see the evidence , without considering the weather into the equation ?

You'd need a sharp pencil:eek: I wouldn't think it would be possible with an e log though, I can do it as I can run 110km/h through SK and the bit of MB with a 110 limit, I don't have to stop for checks either, forgot all about those rules, not much leeway in that run at all with a pike, probably why all the other companies running them out Winnipeg change over 50kms or so before Regina:eek:

mickfly Apr 5th 2013 3:42 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by Chicken lights and chrome (Post 10641538)
You'd need a sharp pencil:eek: I wouldn't think it would be possible with an e log though, I can do it as I can run 110km/h through SK and the bit of MB with a 110 limit, I don't have to stop for checks either, forgot all about those rules, not much leeway in that run at all with a pike, probably why all the other companies running them out Winnipeg change over 50kms or so before Regina:eek:

Still can't see CDN$ 2,400 per week as promised by DH, no clarification of all the other payments besides mileage. Come on DH you were offering help to people, so what are the actual numbers which make up the CDN$ 124,000 PA?

Chicken lights and chrome Apr 5th 2013 4:56 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by mickfly (Post 10642113)
Still can't see CDN$ 2,400 per week as promised by DH, no clarification of all the other payments besides mileage. Come on DH you were offering help to people, so what are the actual numbers which make up the CDN$ 124,000 PA?

No doubt there are extras added on to the mileage pay, just a shame that they're all top secret:frown:

It took 40 odd pages to get a sensible reply on here and that came from Russ who had just arrived, so I wouldn't hold my breath Mick:rofl:

dustyhoward Apr 5th 2013 5:47 pm

Re: Loblaw
 
Well turkey bulb good to see you agree and as for what's involved fat to the mat it's not what you say

northboy Apr 5th 2013 6:20 pm

Re: Loblaw
 
wonder just how many guys have gone over to lob laws on the this pay structure .and what they are earning for the type of work they are doing. etc etc.;) only to be fill full of. ,, doing over 5000 miles a week to make a good wage sends a shiver up my back. must just sleep for 48 hours when your off ?

flat to the mat Apr 5th 2013 6:34 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by dustyhoward (Post 10642352)
Well turkey bulb good to see you agree and as for what's involved fat to the mat it's not what you say

Well then what is involved DH ? :yawn:

mickfly Apr 5th 2013 9:44 pm

Re: Loblaw
 
I'll try again with DH...

Come on DH you were offering help to people, so what are the actual numbers which make up the CDN$ 124,000 PA?

flat to the mat Apr 5th 2013 11:58 pm

Re: Loblaw
 
I am sorry but it's so appropriate that it goes right over :rofl: Had to be said sooner or later :whatchutalkingabout

alandoug Apr 6th 2013 12:43 am

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Originally Posted by flat to the mat (Post 10642406)
Well then what is involved DH ? :yawn:

$124,000 pa on a TWP. Ho hum, the only way I'll be convinced is to see an actual payslip. Or could it be a mistake has been made in that a bi-weekly pay has been made into a weekly one?

russjp Apr 6th 2013 11:32 am

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by northboy (Post 10641510)
And thats when you will know if the runs are OTT :confused:russjp .it all seams very long nights when you read up . and if you look at the Google maps . its still under 6 hours each way with and your checks unhitching wheel checks.long long nights . 13 hours min over the shift patterns 4 on 4 off /6 on 2 off .can break the best of men.

Won't affect us mate cos we will be doing Calgary and Edmonton runs which are 2 day runs anyway so we won't have the need to get anywhere and back in the same shift and I'll be working mon - fri on nights with a short run on the Friday night IF I want it, I can just work 4 shifts if I wish to.

russjp Apr 6th 2013 12:15 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by Chicken lights and chrome (Post 10642254)
No doubt there are extras added on to the mileage pay, just a shame that they're all top secret:frown:

It took 40 odd pages to get a sensible reply on here and that came from Russ who had just arrived, so I wouldn't hold my breath Mick:rofl:

Activity based pay is an hourly rate which increases with length of service which for newbies has been well documented on here, so to give you an example, we are paid 35 mins for a pre trip and 35 mins for a post trip on pikes, if you are doing a changeover then you will be paid twice for this work as you will need a new pre trip and post trip check dut to dragging different trailers so that alone is 2hrs 20 mins of pay per shift ON TOP of any mileage based pay. Other activities paid for are hooks and drops, set payment for deliveries with overtime if you run over the allotted time, waiting time is paid hourly, fuelling tractors and trailers and even paid a seperate payment for filling the DEF tank.

As far as i`m aware there is no other job operating in the same way as this certainly in this province and it is certainly an impressive operation. I`m not gonna come on here and `rose tint` the job for anyone, if you`re frightened of hard work then don`t bother applying. As professional drivers we all know that some of us can be professional whiners too and some people at Loblaws are undoubtedly no different but the one thing i PERSONALLY have not witnessed is anyone complaining about the money they are making.

mickfly Apr 6th 2013 4:34 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by russjp (Post 10643346)
Activity based pay is an hourly rate which increases with length of service which for newbies has been well documented on here, so to give you an example, we are paid 35 mins for a pre trip and 35 mins for a post trip on pikes, if you are doing a changeover then you will be paid twice for this work as you will need a new pre trip and post trip check dut to dragging different trailers so that alone is 2hrs 20 mins of pay per shift ON TOP of any mileage based pay. Other activities paid for are hooks and drops, set payment for deliveries with overtime if you run over the allotted time, waiting time is paid hourly, fuelling tractors and trailers and even paid a seperate payment for filling the DEF tank.

As far as i`m aware there is no other job operating in the same way as this certainly in this province and it is certainly an impressive operation. I`m not gonna come on here and `rose tint` the job for anyone, if you`re frightened of hard work then don`t bother applying. As professional drivers we all know that some of us can be professional whiners too and some people at Loblaws are undoubtedly no different but the one thing i PERSONALLY have not witnessed is anyone complaining about the money they are making.

So, have you seen proof that CDN $124,000 PA is being earned, or even attainable? DH says he's on 2,400 fortnightly but could earn the same weekly.

northboy Apr 6th 2013 7:56 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by russjp (Post 10643346)
Activity based pay is an hourly rate which increases with length of service which for newbies has been well documented on here, so to give you an example, we are paid 35 mins for a pre trip and 35 mins for a post trip on pikes, if you are doing a changeover then you will be paid twice for this work as you will need a new pre trip and post trip check dut to dragging different trailers so that alone is 2hrs 20 mins of pay per shift ON TOP of any mileage based pay. Other activities paid for are hooks and drops, set payment for deliveries with overtime if you run over the allotted time, waiting time is paid hourly, fuelling tractors and trailers and even paid a seperate payment for filling the DEF tank.

As far as i`m aware there is no other job operating in the same way as this certainly in this province and it is certainly an impressive operation. I`m not gonna come on here and `rose tint` the job for anyone, if you`re frightened of hard work then don`t bother applying. As professional drivers we all know that some of us can be professional whiners too and some people at Loblaws are undoubtedly no different but the one thing i PERSONALLY have not witnessed is anyone complaining about the money they are making.

:eek: AT last some one who.s going to say how it is without the rose tinted specs. may get wagers details two. just hope they are not been nice as you are a rookie. as they do have by your nuts for a few years until P/R comes threw.keep the info coming russ .people need to know facts instead of pretty pictures :thumbsup:

flat to the mat Apr 6th 2013 8:31 pm

Re: Loblaw
 

Originally Posted by russjp (Post 10643346)
Activity based pay is an hourly rate which increases with length of service which for newbies has been well documented on here, so to give you an example, we are paid 35 mins for a pre trip and 35 mins for a post trip on pikes, if you are doing a changeover then you will be paid twice for this work as you will need a new pre trip and post trip check dut to dragging different trailers so that alone is 2hrs 20 mins of pay per shift ON TOP of any mileage based pay. Other activities paid for are hooks and drops, set payment for deliveries with overtime if you run over the allotted time, waiting time is paid hourly, fuelling tractors and trailers and even paid a seperate payment for filling the DEF tank.

As far as i`m aware there is no other job operating in the same way as this certainly in this province and it is certainly an impressive operation. I`m not gonna come on here and `rose tint` the job for anyone, if you`re frightened of hard work then don`t bother applying. As professional drivers we all know that some of us can be professional whiners too and some people at Loblaws are undoubtedly no different but the one thing i PERSONALLY have not witnessed is anyone complaining about the money they are making.

We have a similar system Russ . $50 per day to cover inspections and paperwork , paid hub mileage , paid fueling , paid loading and unloading , paid for turning up at a delivery site , border crossings etc . Any other delays for example getting repairs to the equipment are paid hourly . Oh and paid holidays to boot which is quite rare over here .


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