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berto Mar 20th 2013 8:52 pm

advise please
 
Hi folks, totally new to all this... just at the very start of our proposed journey to move to Canada....
my husband holds HGV and PSV licenses, ADR, and is an ADI ( Advanced Driving Instructor ). He has over 20 years coach and lorry experience and ADI for nearly 20 years. Extensive driving experience throughout Ireland and UK.

What would be the best way to go about looking to get into Canada? We were at an overseas expo yesterday in Dublin and everyone seemed positive, but today I am more confused than ever.... I keep seeing LMO, PNP, TWP..... and my head is spinning! i am sat here at computer while hubby works, trying to make sense of the whole thing and I'm plain lost!

Not even sure of where we would look to go.....any suggestions where there is better opportunities?

We have 3 daughters aged 15, 12 and 10. I work with special kids but don't have a degree, would i be better advised going back to college, getting teaching or nursing degree and then looking to get out on my job?

This is so stressful and we have nothing achieved!

thanks for reading.

vickysteve Mar 20th 2013 9:35 pm

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Originally Posted by berto (Post 10615300)
Hi folks, totally new to all this... just at the very start of our proposed journey to move to Canada....
my husband holds HGV and PSV licenses, ADR, and is an ADI ( Advanced Driving Instructor ). He has over 20 years coach and lorry experience and ADI for nearly 20 years. Extensive driving experience throughout Ireland and UK.

What would be the best way to go about looking to get into Canada? We were at an overseas expo yesterday in Dublin and everyone seemed positive, but today I am more confused than ever.... I keep seeing LMO, PNP, TWP..... and my head is spinning! i am sat here at computer while hubby works, trying to make sense of the whole thing and I'm plain lost!

Not even sure of where we would look to go.....any suggestions where there is better opportunities?

We have 3 daughters aged 15, 12 and 10. I work with special kids but don't have a degree, would i be better advised going back to college, getting teaching or nursing degree and then looking to get out on my job?

This is so stressful and we have nothing achieved!

thanks for reading.

Hi
If you move to canada you husband could go down the LMO (Labour market opinion) as a truck driver, his ADR and ADI are not valid in Canada, he will also need to pass a Canadian class 1 test and an air brake test. The best way it to start contacting trucking companies in Canada and find out what jobs are available. Sorry I cannot help you much with your side is it I don't know much about how the teaching and nursing side of it work in Canada.

berto Mar 20th 2013 9:52 pm

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Thank you steve for your reply...it is just so difficult and different to home.....i suppose if it was like home, we won't want to go there!

jamesmc Mar 20th 2013 11:01 pm

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Dont forget you both will need to prove you can speak/read/write in English or French to obtain permanent Residency (you can do the exam in the Uk )when you get word of a job.or do it in Canada
the exam is IELTS.(look it up.).
So in a nutshell your OH gets offered a job in Canada ,he receives a LMO from the company(email or post),you pick up a temporary work Permit at Canadian airport when arriving.
Then to apply for permanent Residency(or nominated by province you have settled in) you need this exam.
sounds stressfully and it is ;) but well worth it in the end.
jimmy

jamesmc Mar 20th 2013 11:13 pm

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sorry ment to put my 2cents in about your problem..
i personally would wait until arriving in Canada before putting myself through a degree as people in the teaching/nursing occupations have to jump through hoops to get credentials accepted.
Also when coming over with a truck driver OH you will not be permitted to work until PR or Nominated by province (min 6months).MB&SK ........other provinces may have different rules.
as well no child benefit until 18months in Canada.
not trying to put you off just pointing out a few things.
jimmy

mickfly Mar 21st 2013 6:34 am

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Originally Posted by jamesmc (Post 10615522)
sorry ment to put my 2cents in about your problem..
i personally would wait until arriving in Canada before putting myself through a degree as people in the teaching/nursing occupations have to jump through hoops to get credentials accepted.
Also when coming over with a truck driver OH you will not be permitted to work until PR or Nominated by province (min 6months).MB&SK ........other provinces may have different rules.
as well no child benefit until 18months in Canada.
not trying to put you off just pointing out a few things.
jimmy

In Alberta the wife of a long haul truck driver can ask for an open work permit, but there are restrictions about working with children etc, so expect to be doing retail or similar at first.

berto Mar 21st 2013 11:21 am

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would husband be restricted to doing long haul driving intitally? What are the chances of getting coach work??? He has 20 years experience with public transport companies here in Northern Ireland.

Thank you to the people who have advised so far......this dream is quickly fading :(

vickysteve Mar 21st 2013 12:00 pm

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Originally Posted by berto (Post 10616262)
would husband be restricted to doing long haul driving intitally? What are the chances of getting coach work??? He has 20 years experience with public transport companies here in Northern Ireland.

Thank you to the people who have advised so far......this dream is quickly fading :(


Most Lmo's are issued under the term long haul truck driver, it is possible but very very hard to get a short haul job on an LMO, Pcv is very hard to get a LMO for I only know of one coach company that has offered this, I don't know if they are still taking drivers.

berto Mar 21st 2013 12:05 pm

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hi, thanks for that info. could you tell me the name of the coach company? Is there any province that would look more favourably on us than another? We really don't have much of a clue and maybe making a laughing stock of ourselves coming on here, but, if I don't ask, I'll never know!

vickysteve Mar 21st 2013 12:12 pm

Re: advise please
 

Originally Posted by berto (Post 10616363)
hi, thanks for that info. could you tell me the name of the coach company? Is there any province that would look more favourably on us than another? We really don't have much of a clue and maybe making a laughing stock of ourselves coming on here, but, if I don't ask, I'll never know!


The coach company was traxx coaches in Calgary AB. Each province has slightly different rules for LMO'S, you will have to do some research and pick a province that you want to move to. From my experience Saskatchewan and Alberta are the easiest to get into to.

berto Mar 21st 2013 12:16 pm

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I have been researching TRAXX just this morning... I am currently working on Alan's CV/resume to email to them. Is emailing CV going to get us anywhere? I 'd imagine they get 1000's of emails. Is there any better way....save from landing on the doorstep, cos we do't have that kind of money!

vickysteve Mar 21st 2013 1:00 pm

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Originally Posted by berto (Post 10616389)
I have been researching TRAXX just this morning... I am currently working on Alan's CV/resume to email to them. Is emailing CV going to get us anywhere? I 'd imagine they get 1000's of emails. Is there any better way....save from landing on the doorstep, cos we do't have that kind of money!

Email is normally the best way to do it,it seen to be how most thinks are done now, make sure you do you research and sent it to the right person or the hr department. Use your resume to lots of companies not just one, it may that a long time but stick with it and good luck.

berto Mar 21st 2013 3:03 pm

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thanks for that steve.
Well after a few hours working on his CV, I think I'm ready to forward it to TRAXX, wish us luck folks!!!

christmasoompa Mar 21st 2013 4:29 pm

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Originally Posted by berto (Post 10616389)
Is emailing CV going to get us anywhere? I 'd imagine they get 1000's of emails. Is there any better way....save from landing on the doorstep, cos we do't have that kind of money!

The general advice for Canada is to always get out there if you can, or at the very least pick up the phone. But it does seem to be slightly easier to get a trucking job via email than most other jobs. Have you read the Job Hunting section of the Wiki? Loads of useful info in there - including how it's not called a CV, make sure you refer to it as a resume!!

And I realise this is none of my business, but you say you don't have the money to go out to Canada for a holiday, have you looked in to the cost of moving? It isn't cheap unfortunately! This recent thread may be useful reading - http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=735341

HTH, good luck.

christmasoompa Mar 21st 2013 4:38 pm

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Oh, and with regard to working out there, have a read of this - http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/occupations.asp

Basically, as truck driving isn't considered a 'skilled' job, you wouldn't get the normal Spousal Open Work Permit, so you'd not be able to work unless you got a LMO/TWP in your own right, or until you got PR. Same for your eldest child, which can often be a problem when they're 16 or 17 and wanting to earn some extra money with a Saturday job or similar.

But there are pilot programs in one or two provinces that would allow you both to work, so if you do want to it's worth trying to head for one of them.

Best of luck.


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