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Gazman Dec 17th 2012 6:16 pm

7511 'example titles' all okay for PNP???
 
After much faffing around I'm starting to get my head around the PNP process and was just looking at the NOC list headed '7511 Transport truck drivers'

Example Titles
bulk goods truck driver
dump truck driver
flatbed truck driver
logging truck driver
long haul truck driver
moving van driver
shunt truck driver
tow truck driver
transport driver
truck driver
truck driver, heavy truck
truck driver, tractor-trailer

Would all these titles be eligible for applying through PNP?, that can't be right can it?
Also, under 'employment requirements' I read;
    :eek:,please tell me that's not correct...:eek:

    jamesmc Dec 17th 2012 6:50 pm

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    I think(manitoba) its noc 7411c Long distance truck driver .
    only for a TWP. cant speak for other provinces.
    meaning that your journeys must be inter provincial .
    you can be trained in a accredicated school , that means you can claim 60% of cost of training back on taxes at end o yr.
    some guys do a wk or so course and some do more
    imo i paid for my own an did a 6wk course ( i could afford it )
    was 2wk driving plus class room rules regs canada /usa,
    log book regs, chains etc.
    i was road ready to go ,lol ,i had 25+ yrs driving in uk /euro..
    nb. company i was going to had uk drivers before and they only did 2wk course and had to take then of road due to rules /log book probs.
    lots of strange rules over here and if you are stopped at a scale and somethings wrong with logbook etc...no mercy shown just because you are a new start.
    jimmy.

    Gazman Dec 17th 2012 7:35 pm

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    Originally Posted by jamesmc (Post 10438231)
    I think(manitoba) its noc 7411c Long distance truck driver .
    only for a TWP. cant speak for other provinces.
    meaning that your journeys must be inter provincial .
    you can be trained in a accredicated school , that means you can claim 60% of cost of training back on taxes at end o yr.
    some guys do a wk or so course and some do more
    imo i paid for my own an did a 6wk course ( i could afford it )
    was 2wk driving plus class room rules regs canada /usa,
    log book regs, chains etc.
    i was road ready to go ,lol ,i had 25+ yrs driving in uk /euro..
    nb. company i was going to had uk drivers before and they only did 2wk course and had to take then of road due to rules /log book probs.
    lots of strange rules over here and if you are stopped at a scale and somethings wrong with logbook etc...no mercy shown just because you are a new start.
    jimmy.

    hmm, i got that list from an Ontario link so perhaps it's specific to them..
    I have just over 25 yrs too now uk/euro/ireland, but if there's a lot of new stuff to learn suppose it's best not skrimp on the lessons.
    Wonder if any companies will pay for a six week stint???:)...

    jamesmc Dec 17th 2012 8:04 pm

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    I have heard of companys paying training but its usually on the job double team for wk or two.as you need to show experience to get lmo,twp.
    As you know after 25yrs driving we have all picked up bad habits :rofl:,,my main ones were elbow on door,,hand on gearlever..

    christmasoompa Dec 17th 2012 9:19 pm

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    Originally Posted by Gazman (Post 10438289)
    hmm, i got that list from an Ontario link so perhaps it's specific to them..

    There's no trucking option under the Ontario PNP, it wouldn't be possible to get PR there from a TWP.

    Most PNP's with a semi-skilled stream for truckers are for a specific NOC code, but if you can prove you do the majority of duties under that NOC code, then it doesn't matter if your actual job title is one of the ones under the 'related' list.

    Although as jamesmc said it's usually long distance truck driver (7411) that qualifies for the PNP.

    HTH.

    Gazman Dec 18th 2012 6:30 am

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    Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 10438504)
    There's no trucking option under the Ontario PNP, it wouldn't be possible to get PR there from a TWP.

    Most PNP's with a semi-skilled stream for truckers are for a specific NOC code, but if you can prove you do the majority of duties under that NOC code, then it doesn't matter if your actual job title is one of the ones under the 'related' list.

    Although as jamesmc said it's usually long distance truck driver (7411) that qualifies for the PNP.

    HTH.

    Where did you find that information??, I went through the Wiki link to Options Ontario and didn't spot that :blink: I arrived at the list above :confused:

    jamesmc Dec 18th 2012 1:56 pm

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    as above no pnp for truckers in ontario

    Gazman Dec 18th 2012 5:00 pm

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    Originally Posted by jamesmc (Post 10439934)
    as above no pnp for truckers in ontario

    looks like I might aim for NB or NS instead then :unsure: , although I apparently have a distant relative near Oakville ON, perhaps I should call by one day and say "Hi, remember me?, lovely to see you, where's my bed?"...:D

    jamesmc Dec 18th 2012 6:21 pm

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    remember Nb & NS are know as low wage regions for truck drivers . better wi SK<MB,AB.

    Gazman Dec 18th 2012 8:38 pm

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    Originally Posted by jamesmc (Post 10440430)
    remember Nb & NS are know as low wage regions for truck drivers . better wi SK<MB,AB.

    I know I'm going around in circles now but I've just looked at Winnipeg as an alternative. Wikipedia says;

    "Winnipeg is ranked second for Canada's clearest skies year-round, sixth sunniest city year-round, and second for sunniest city in Canada in spring and winter".

    :thumbup: sounds great, but then I read...

    "Tornadoes are not uncommon in the area,...A Fujita scale F5 tornado struck Elie (just 40 km (25 mi) west of Winnipeg) in 2007; this was the strongest tornado ever recorded in Canada".

    :eek::blink::frown: somebody somewhere is sticking pins in my doll!:sneaky:

    jamesmc Dec 19th 2012 4:54 pm

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    Dont always believe what you read...Manitoba is the size o great britain plus the islands so what happens in one area you wouldnt know 50mls away.
    We were half an hr ish away when that happened (holiday /job interviews) and ya didnt know till it was on news ,,well sky was black .
    jimmy

    Gazman Dec 20th 2012 6:13 pm

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    Originally Posted by jamesmc (Post 10442239)
    Dont always believe what you read...Manitoba is the size o great britain plus the islands so what happens in one area you wouldnt know 50mls away.
    We were half an hr ish away when that happened (holiday /job interviews) and ya didnt know till it was on news ,,well sky was black .
    jimmy

    OMG!!, are you serious?, Manitoba alone the size of UK?:eek::eek:, isn't that mad! :D thanks Jimmy, you're by far the most helpful person on this community website :thumbup:...

    er, here's just another question that you could probably answer...I used to do night trunking to Bellshill a lot and there was a truck stop on the A74 Northbound just before you start dropping down towards Hamilton.
    I can't for my life remember the name of the place and it's driving me nuts trying to remember it :blink::blink::blink: ??? ......
    Gareth.

    jamesmc Dec 20th 2012 8:22 pm

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    Happendon lodge,and was there one at Blackwood.
    lol aye its a big place ..you dont say you are going 50mls for shopping(big mall)
    you end up saying 45mins etc.. hour an a half tae w/peg etc .(not 90mls).
    im told most folk in MB. live less than 150mls from USA border.
    only 1.2million in the province. and majority live in w/nnpeg
    jimmy

    Gazman Dec 20th 2012 8:40 pm

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    Originally Posted by jamesmc (Post 10444423)
    Happendon lodge,and was there one at Blackwood.
    lol aye its a big place ..you dont say you are going 50mls for shopping(big mall)
    you end up saying 45mins etc.. hour an a half tae w/peg etc .(not 90mls).
    im told most folk in MB. live less than 150mls from USA border.
    only 1.2million in the province. and majority live in w/nnpeg
    jimmy

    ...er, no I don't think it was Happendon lodge or Blackwood, it was a real grotty little place about 30mins short from Hamilton with pot holes the size of Canada :D, I think it began with a 'Q' and was just one word... I used to drop full trailers there and take an empty back for Iceland Frozen Foods...
    Never mind, It'll come to me just as I'm not thinking about it I'm sure :D

    jamesmc Dec 20th 2012 8:44 pm

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    red moss

    jamesmc Dec 20th 2012 8:46 pm

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    Originally Posted by jamesmc (Post 10444456)
    red moss

    ok i never noticed ya said q...lol

    Gazman Dec 20th 2012 9:13 pm

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    Originally Posted by jamesmc (Post 10444456)
    red moss

    ...er, wasn't he a racing driver!? :D , I'm being silly!, no it def wasn't Red Moss,...I've just done an AA route finder search from Carlisle to Hamilton and the name jumped out right away! 'Lesmahagow'. I don't know were I got the 'Q' from, perhaps there a quarry there and that confused me :thumbsup:...

    jamesmc Dec 20th 2012 9:15 pm

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    duh never went for the obvious!!

    where2now Jan 2nd 2013 1:07 pm

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    Hi Jimmy / Gazman,

    Happy New Year!

    The truckstop at Lesmahagow was called the "Star" IIRC tho I it's closed down now.

    Gazman Jan 2nd 2013 4:17 pm

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    Originally Posted by where2now (Post 10459778)
    Hi Jimmy / Gazman,

    Happy New Year!

    The truckstop at Lesmahagow was called the "Star" IIRC tho I it's closed down now.

    Oh dear! :D ...I did enjoy my trunking to Scotland though, I used to listen to some nutter called Scottie McClue on the radio :D...
    And heading home after midnight in the snow I often could see nothing other than this! :eek:,

    jamesmc Jan 2nd 2013 4:30 pm

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    AHH .practice picture for nights in Canada ...lol

    Gremmie Jan 3rd 2013 1:48 am

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    thanks Jimmy, you're by far the most helpful person on this community :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

    How the heck can you say that. I've chatting with james for 5yrs now and never under stood a word he's said..:o:o

    NB try Donnellly farms Trans http://www.donnellyfarms.com/

    Other wise come West

    jamesmc Jan 3rd 2013 2:53 pm

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    bloody southerners lol:eek::eek::eek::blink:
    aye near 5yrs ,time passes quickly.
    jimmy

    Gazman Jan 4th 2013 10:24 pm

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    Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 10460962)
    thanks Jimmy, you're by far the most helpful person on this community :rofl:
    How the heck can you say that. I've chatting with james for 5yrs now and never under stood a word he's said..:o:o
    NB try Donnellly farms Trans http://www.donnellyfarms.com/
    Other wise come West

    ::thumbsup:, yeah I know, it took me a long time to get used to the Scots' accent too, :D I remember calling at TNT in Bellshill one evening around 97/98 when the summer had been unually warm in Scotland. I asked the yard manager...

    "What do think of this nice weather we're having Tam?"...

    His reply; "It's driving me f@#!ng Crazeeey!!!, all ee neeerd ee $spfff of sprigin $rrtuurrrr eey int!!! :blink:...

    Nicest people you could meet though :thumbup:, or least they were to us Welsh nutters, we used to head from North Wales to Hamilton or Glasgow for the weekend, a right gang of us sleeping in an old Ford Transit,...and they thought they themselves were nutters until they met us! :thumbsup: fond memories!...

    Thanks for that Donnelly Farm...I like that quote "satisfying and pleasant place to work, for our employees.”...will keep an eye on that. I really want to settle near either coast, so could end up west if the right opportunity turns up...:thumbup:

    heydon1983 Jan 11th 2013 10:57 pm

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    Originally Posted by jamesmc (Post 10444456)
    red moss

    Red moss hotel that was a good truck stop overnight

    jamesmc Jan 11th 2013 11:38 pm

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    an the bar as well:amen:
    jimmy.


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