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Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by dc koop
(Post 12158680)
Very strange. If you listen to the average Aussie the only place worth living in is Australia
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Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by robin1234
(Post 12158807)
Well I was out there with my placard at the London march on Saturday, there were tens of thousands of people there, and no one was wailing or weeping. In fact it was a joyful and positive event. Lots of children, some pretty funny home made signs, lots of dogs accompanying and enjoying! Mind you, good weather helped.
Hardly so. I can understand the concerns of the LGBT but otherwise these demonstrations to me are nothing more than a mass resentment that a female failed to win the Presidency. If we have Trump in the White House today it's because of Hillary. She was a lousy candidate, ran a lousy campaign and carried too much baggage into the campaign as well as representing a party that has tragically lost it's identity with the very people who traditionally supported it. Maybe the Democrats learned a hard lesson from this |
Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by dc koop
(Post 12159207)
What has Trump got to do with womens rights in the UK ? Are American women oppressed, suffering inequality , second class citizens in our society?
Women have learned the hard way that the only way to attain and retain their rights is to present a united front. The erosion of women's rights in one country can lead to the domino effect. I am thrilled that women worldwide realize just what a watershed moment is happening in the US. And as to your second sentence, yes, yes, and yes. |
Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by Nutmegger
(Post 12159226)
Women have learned the hard way that the only way to attain and retain their rights is to present a united front. The erosion of women's rights in one country can lead to the domino effect. I am thrilled that women worldwide realize just what a watershed moment is happening in the US. And as to your second sentence, yes, yes, and yes.
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Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by dc koop
(Post 12159207)
What has Trump got to do with womens rights in the UK ? Are American women oppressed, suffering inequality , second class citizens in our society?
Hardly so. I can understand the concerns of the LGBT but otherwise these demonstrations to me are nothing more than a mass resentment that a female failed to win the Presidency. If we have Trump in the White House today it's because of Hillary. She was a lousy candidate, ran a lousy campaign and carried too much baggage into the campaign as well as representing a party that has tragically lost it's identity with the very people who traditionally supported it. Maybe the Democrats learned a hard lesson from this
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12159229)
Ironically the first country leader to visit DC for talks with Donald Trump, this Friday, is going to be a woman. :lol:
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Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by robin1234
(Post 12159237)
Yeah whatever
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Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by dc koop
(Post 12159207)
What has Trump got to do with womens rights in the UK ? Are American women oppressed, suffering inequality , second class citizens in our society?
Hardly so. I can understand the concerns of the LGBT but otherwise these demonstrations to me are nothing more than a mass resentment that a female failed to win the Presidency. |
Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 12159246)
You do realize that these demonstrations were planned in advance of last November's elections in order to promote women's rights at the start of a new presidency, whoever that president might be?
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Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by dc koop
(Post 12159207)
What has Trump got to do with womens rights in the UK ? Are American women oppressed, suffering inequality , second class citizens in our society?
Hardly so. I can understand the concerns of the LGBT but otherwise these demonstrations to me are nothing more than a mass resentment that a female failed to win the Presidency. If we have Trump in the White House today it's because of Hillary. She was a lousy candidate, ran a lousy campaign and carried too much baggage into the campaign as well as representing a party that has tragically lost it's identity with the very people who traditionally supported it. Maybe the Democrats learned a hard lesson from this |
Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12159250)
Well it didn't turn out to be quite the coronation celebration that the organizers anticipated, did it? :rofl:
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Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 12159278)
If you think that the protests were organized as a "coronation celebration" I'm not sure where you have been living in recent years, given attacks on women's right in many states. Hence, also, the global nature of the protests.
Therefore, given the mood before the election, there can be no doubt that the organizers of the protest in DC had a specific expectation as to who was going to have been just inaugurated. Hëll, last October I had the same And it's a great pity, I hope you agree, that a protest in support of women's rights appears to have been entirely redirected as a protest against the US and President Trump. :( |
Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by dc koop
(Post 12159207)
If we have Trump in the White House today it's because of Hillary. She was a lousy candidate, ran a lousy campaign and carried too much baggage into the campaign as well as representing a party that has tragically lost it's identity with the very people who traditionally supported it. Maybe the Democrats learned a hard lesson from this |
Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12159289)
You linked the protests to the US elections, and by implication to the inauguration, and to suggest the date was a coincidence is, to say the least, implausible.
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12159289)
Therefore, given the mood before the election, there can be no doubt that the organizers of the protests in DC had a specific expectation as to who was going to have been just inaugurated. Hëll, last October I had the same [strike]expectation[strike] fear myself! :lol:
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12159289)
And it's a great pity, I hope you agree, that a protest in support of women's rights appears to have been entirely redirected as a protest against the US and President Trump.
Protest against the US? How so? |
Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 12159300)
..... But to claim that the march was planned as a ""coronation celebration" is plain silly given what has been happening in the US at state level and worldwide in general.
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Re: yep it's already started!
Originally Posted by Nutmegger
(Post 12159226)
Women have learned the hard way that the only way to attain and retain their rights is to present a united front. The erosion of women's rights in one country can lead to the domino effect. I am thrilled that women worldwide realize just what a watershed moment is happening in the US. And as to your second sentence, yes, yes, and yes.
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