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Old Jan 14th 2008, 9:16 am
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Originally Posted by Boiler
I thought we were in the EU, what makes you think they are illegal?
I have a friend(s) who are in the police, they stop transits vans going from Sheffied/Rotherham to Spalding daliy carrying illegal workers. Most are waiting for their claim for asylum to be granted and some have been served with deportation notice, but never went home.

Sure they will be a good percentage from E.U countries that are allowed to work.

Stuart, do you just broadly class any foreigner working in the UK as an "illegal" or do you have some evidence to back up your claim that these factory and farm workers are working illegally in the UK, rather than just being Europeans working legally?
Do i have any evidence?
Is this forum a court of law now?
Why am i supposed to provide this evidence when the Home Office has trouble proving the amount of illegal workers in this part of the country?
I say what i see. Not what a UK goverment statistic quotes.
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Old Jan 14th 2008, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by ian-mstm
You live in the "styx" - from Greek mythology, the boundry between earth and the underworld. Colloquially speaking, away from civilization. No charge.

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Originally Posted by Stuart
I say what i see. Not what a UK goverment statistic quotes.
It's good to know that illegal workers in the UK are now clearly marked. When you see these "illegals", do they have "illegal" tattooed on their foreheads, or are they just wearing "Illegal Worker" sweatshirts?

Is see that you're yet another hypocrite who wants to emigrate to another country because there are too many immigrants in the UK. What makes you 10x worse is that you actually worked as an illegal immigrant in the US, because somehow you think you're better than the "foreign" illegals.

And now you want to go back to the US legally on the diversity lottery. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms - yet another unskilled immigrant - just what the US needs.
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Old Jan 14th 2008, 3:38 pm
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It's good to know that illegal workers in the UK are now clearly marked. When you see these "illegals", do they have "illegal" tattooed on their foreheads, or are they just wearing "Illegal Worker" sweatshirts?

Is see that you're yet another hypocrite who wants to emigrate to another country because there are too many immigrants in the UK. What makes you 10x worse is that you actually worked as an illegal immigrant in the US, because somehow you think you're better than the "foreign" illegals.

And now you want to go back to the US legally on the diversity lottery. I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms - yet another unskilled immigrant - just what the US needs.
Unskilled?
I have 18 years exp in my industry. The reason we opted for the lottey is that they do not give visa's to hairdressers. Even at my level. I have worked for nearly and with all the top people in the business. I have had my work published in all the top magazines for the last ten year. I am still unskilled?
I also have a CCNA from Cisco and am on my way to being a CCNP.
I would come to the USA a network engineer. Yet another visa i would not get. This is the only way i can get to work in the USA. We have spent over £8500 on visa applications and specialist lawyers. Most of which ripped us off.
Yeah, i am so f**king dumb and Unskilled.


I am better than the workers that come to the UK without a visa. Yes. I will not argue there. They are bringing down are education and health service.
Go tell my wifes grandfather a war vetern he can not have his heart sorted out the waiting lists are too long, because they are too busy treating illegal immigrants. (the doctors words not mine, before you jump all over me) Tell my sister who live 100 metre from her school, her daughter can not go there as the school is full of children of illegal immigrants. (the school words, not mine)

The reason i had to work as a illegal was because i was working as a session stylist for photo shoots, and collections. I had no choice. I took very little pay, often none. As most of the time we used our saving money. After talking to a specialist in U.S immigration and civilization, he told us we would not qualify for a visa and also i could not get California hairdressing licence. We then spoke with the goverment department and they told us to leave the USA and return once we had got a visa sorted out.

Those who come from the E.U to work here to get a better life are helped by people like me and our company as we employ three people from Poland, and would employ more if we had the space.
Labeling me as a hater of none UK residents is so far from the truth. But yet you never took time to find that out.
I never knew someone could be so narrow mined, and condemnatory. Thanks for proving me wrong. I will bring that up at out next local KKK meeting. (ironey, i might add. Just in case)
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Originally Posted by ian-mstm
You live in the "styx" - from Greek mythology, the boundry between earth and the underworld. Colloquially speaking, away from civilization. No charge.

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Originally Posted by Stuart
Unskilled?
I have 18 years exp in my industry. The reason we opted for the lottey is that they do not give visa's to hairdressers. Even at my level. I have worked for nearly and with all the top people in the business. I have had my work published in all the top magazines for the last ten year. I am still unskilled?
I also have a CCNA from Cisco and am on my way to being a CCNP.
I would come to the USA a network engineer. Yet another visa i would not get. This is the only way i can get to work in the USA. We have spent over £8500 on visa applications and specialist lawyers. Most of which ripped us off.
Yeah, i am so f**king dumb and Unskilled.


I am better than the workers that come to the UK without a visa. Yes. I will not argue there. They are bringing down are education and health service.
Go tell my wifes grandfather a war vetern he can not have his heart sorted out the waiting lists are too long, because they are too busy treating illegal immigrants. (the doctors words not mine, before you jump all over me) Tell my sister who live 100 metre from her school, her daughter can not go there as the school is full of children of illegal immigrants. (the school words, not mine)

The reason i had to work as a illegal was because i was working as a session stylist for photo shoots, and collections. I had no choice. I took very little pay, often none. As most of the time we used our saving money. After talking to a specialist in U.S immigration and civilization, he told us we would not qualify for a visa and also i could not get California hairdressing licence. We then spoke with the goverment department and they told us to leave the USA and return once we had got a visa sorted out.

Those who come from the E.U to work here to get a better life are helped by people like me and our company as we employ three people from Poland, and would employ more if we had the space.
Labeling me as a hater of none UK residents is so far from the truth. But yet you never took time to find that out.
I never knew someone could be so narrow mined, and condemnatory. Thanks for proving me wrong. I will bring that up at out next local KKK meeting. (ironey, i might add. Just in case)
Well, apparently you are very impressed with your skills. Apparently our government is not, since they won't give you a visa based upon them. Sounds unskilled by the standards to me.

Dumb... well I dunno. I guess I wouldn't consult you if I was picking a lawyer.

You are "better" than the workers in the UK without a visa? Don't make me laugh - you did the exact same thing here in the US. You had no choice? Don't REALLY make me laugh - you always have a choice - simply don't do it. Oh wait, you couldn't get what you wanted that way.
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Originally Posted by Stuart
They are bringing down are education and health service.
I guess "they" really are bringing down education. Apparently, you don't know the difference between "are" and "our". No charge!


The reason i had to work as a illegal was because i was working as a session stylist for photo shoots, and collections. I had no choice.
Of course you had a choice. You could have stayed where you were... but no... you thought you'd do to us what they did to you!

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Originally Posted by Stuart
Unskilled?
I have 18 years exp in my industry. The reason we opted for the lottey is that they do not give visa's to hairdressers. Even at my level. I have worked for nearly and with all the top people in the business. I have had my work published in all the top magazines for the last ten year. I am still unskilled?
I also have a CCNA from Cisco and am on my way to being a CCNP.
I would come to the USA a network engineer. Yet another visa i would not get. This is the only way i can get to work in the USA. We have spent over £8500 on visa applications and specialist lawyers. Most of which ripped us off.
Yeah, i am so f**king dumb and Unskilled.


I am better than the workers that come to the UK without a visa. Yes. I will not argue there. They are bringing down are education and health service.
Go tell my wifes grandfather a war vetern he can not have his heart sorted out the waiting lists are too long, because they are too busy treating illegal immigrants. (the doctors words not mine, before you jump all over me) Tell my sister who live 100 metre from her school, her daughter can not go there as the school is full of children of illegal immigrants. (the school words, not mine)

The reason i had to work as a illegal was because i was working as a session stylist for photo shoots, and collections. I had no choice. I took very little pay, often none. As most of the time we used our saving money. After talking to a specialist in U.S immigration and civilization, he told us we would not qualify for a visa and also i could not get California hairdressing licence. We then spoke with the goverment department and they told us to leave the USA and return once we had got a visa sorted out.

Those who come from the E.U to work here to get a better life are helped by people like me and our company as we employ three people from Poland, and would employ more if we had the space.
Labeling me as a hater of none UK residents is so far from the truth. But yet you never took time to find that out.
I never knew someone could be so narrow mined, and condemnatory. Thanks for proving me wrong. I will bring that up at out next local KKK meeting. (ironey, i might add. Just in case)
Citizens of the UK don't qualify for the diversity lottery unless they're from Northern Ireland. Are you from there?
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Old Jan 15th 2008, 2:30 am
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Originally Posted by exexpat
Citizens of the UK don't qualify for the diversity lottery unless they're from Northern Ireland. Are you from there?
Wrong!

Here you go -- I've underlined it for you. I qualified for the diversity visa -- and indeed came to the States on it. I was both a native and citizen of the UK (not born in NI BTW). So your statement is plainly wrong.

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Wrong!
depends where they were born
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depends where they were born
Certainly does. And where their spouse (opposite sex, of course!) was born, and even sometimes their parents.
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Originally Posted by fatbrit
Wrong!
Afraid not. I've got a source...let's see yours.

For DV-2008, natives of the following countries[1] are not eligible to apply because they sent a total of more than 50,000 immigrants to the United States over the period of the previous five years:

BRAZIL, CANADA, CHINA (mainland-born), COLOMBIA, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, EL SALVADOR, HAITI, INDIA, JAMAICA, MEXICO, PAKISTAN, PHILIPPINES, PERU, POLAND, RUSSIA, SOUTH KOREA, UNITED KINGDOM (except Northern Ireland) and its dependent territories, and VIETNAM. Persons born in Hong Kong SAR, Macau SAR and Taiwan are eligible.
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Originally Posted by exexpat
Afraid not. I've got a source...let's see yours.



http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2006/72835.htm

Read it carefully. You are still wrong.
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Afraid not. I've got a source...let's see yours.



http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2006/72835.htm
NATIVES............ being the keyword here...

Citizenship doesn't come into it.
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Citizens of the UK don't qualify for the diversity lottery unless they're from Northern Ireland. Are you from there?
England, was originally included in the lottery.
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