carcajou

This is completely untrue. Please mind your hysteria.

Pulaski

That's another good point - don't approach within arms length, or a short lunge, of a police officer at an "incident".

moi

If the person does not want to press charges in England or the other person leaves the house, they will not be dragged out of the home. Cops in Australia and the UK are trained much more dealing with issues on sociology/socialistic dealing level. In America, they are trained to deal with the worst possible scenario and act from there. We all know that the cops come across so much aggressively in the US, than say UK, Australia, Canada etc. As the Australian PM said, "this would never have happened here." Which is the overall point of seeing this situation from people living outside of America.

moi

Which part are you talking about?

Pollyana

And yes, sadly ii sounds like she reacted as we would here in Australia - hear an argument/disturbance, call the police, when they turn up you go out and speak to them to tell them the background to why you called. Admittedly there are areas here where you would probably not go out to them, but as a general rule the cops would expect for a call like that to interact with the caller.

Tragic end for her, and there but for sheer luck go a lot of other tourists and new US residents I would imagine. Its a big shift of thinking to change a lifetime's way of reacting to the police.

albanks2542

Because most of the cops in america are poorly trained cowards who they think they are on tv

albanks2542

The NYPD are the worst. Remember Dale Cregan in manchester. Greater manchester police have done nothing to the man whose home cregan invaded and called the cops to so he could kill them with his grenades. The NYPD after 2 those cops got killed in 2014 have terrorised the person who give the gunman directions to the site of shooting. They have pulled him over every day, robbed his money saying it is going to the officers families etc etc. They have been trying to force an american to leave a place he has a legal right to live in

Pulaski

No, they are not.

dc koop

Come off it. Cops in this country daily face far more dangerous situations than in the UK. In fact there's absolutely no comparison.

Your British policeman's idea of a dangerous situation is to respond to a call from someone in a block of council flats reporting that the neighbours next door are having a fight and he's threatening her with a table knife.

Come to think of it while acknowledging the response time and efficiency of the British police when a terrorist attack occurs it would be far better if all police were armed and able to deal with the situation far quicker than the vital moments between call in time and actual response time when the terrorist manages to kill a few more people

dc koop

As I said before there are very isolated incidents when this kind of thing happens. How many times in a 24 hour period do you think that police all over this country have to respond to a crime situation and deal with according to the law of the land?

What do you think the police woman in New York was doing when a man came up to her and shot her in the head? Just sitting in her patrol car.

md95065

Probably because she wasn't brought up in the US and did not have all of the necessary survival instincts drummed into her from early childhood.

I'm sure that there isn't a single black woman in Minneapolis who would have been stupid enough to go out of her house late at night in the knowledge that cops were either already there or about to arrive ...

lansbury

Interestingly no one has mentioned what to me, and I suspect most who have worn the uniform and been in those situations, is the most telling aspect of the incident. The officer who fired was sitting in the passenger seat and fired across his colleague. A highly risky move, against any protocol I have ever read and suggestive that whatever prompted him to do so he thought represented a higher risk to himself and his colleague.

I don't know if he was justified or not, if he panicked or not, but I suspect both he and the deceased are victims of the current state of ambushing police which is becoming a too common practice in this country.

Awesome Welles

My daughter is a sheriffs deputy in a high crime area of the city we live in. She is also a tactical firearms specialist, has worked as a detective in their sex crimes unit, is a field training officer and is in their honor guard. I have talked to her at length about this horrible incident.

The cops in this case in all probability did not switch off their body cams - they just hadn't switched them on at that point. Policy on when cameras should be active varies by agency, but they are not running constantly. My daughter switches hers on whenever she has ANY kind of interaction with the public.

Apparently what happened and is totally unforgivable is that the cop who opened fire, shot through the car, i.e. across his partner, at someone who may have merely startled him. His trigger discipline must have been awful too, suggestive of a knee-jerk, rather than a considered response.

What may have occurred here was that the unfortunate woman suddenly and unexpectedly appeared in the close proximity of a police cruiser, occupied by at least one skittish and undisciplined officer. I think it's quite clear that the cop who opened fire is culpable.

That said, the vast majority of cops are dedicated, responsible professionals, who do difficult and sometimes very dangerous work. I know this because I raised one and know lots more of them.

Wintersong

The only thing that's out of the ordinary about this particular police shooting is the level of outrage.

Anybody out there still wondering why #BLM is a thing?

ian-mstm

Some cops may be cowards and others may be poorly trained... but "most of the cops" are neither poorly trained nor cowards. Your penchant for superlative and definitive statements is completely idiotic and without merit... much like you!

Ian