Why do Americans like gingers?
Mar 27th 2007, 2:16 am
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
French wines exported are much higher in alcohol content than those for domestic consumption. Don't like many French wines over here, they're much better (those bought direct from vineyards so they don't go through the co-op system there) over the Pond. Alcohol content there is usually 10.5-11%, not the 13.5% we see here, which adversely affects the taste.
Mar 27th 2007, 2:26 am
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
Roland, where did you live in France? I lived in Paris, then Seine-et-Marne (chez Mickey 
) then the Aveyron followed finally by the Lot-et-Garonne.
The swill that you can get in plastic bottles for 2FF for 5 litres is pretty much that - swill. Utter shite it was. (Sorry about the FF - I was there before they adopted the Euro.)
Agree about Chenin Blanc, a wonderful grape! Shame it got driven out of the cocktail wine market by White Zinfandel and Chardonnay (how do they get the cat to sit on the bottle anyway?
).
If you want a crisp, clean white with overtones of grapefruit and lychee, then get a New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc. Nobilo do a good one. But please stay away from the Two Buck Chuck at Trader Joe's... see my 2nd paragraph.
And for those who like the fizzy stuff, a good substitute for 'real' champers is a nice sparkling Saumur.
Yes, I'm a bit of a wine snob. Give me a nice Argentinian Malbec (the only remaining "real" French grape) over an Aussie or US Merlot any day!
) then the Aveyron followed finally by the Lot-et-Garonne.The swill that you can get in plastic bottles for 2FF for 5 litres is pretty much that - swill. Utter shite it was. (Sorry about the FF - I was there before they adopted the Euro.)
Agree about Chenin Blanc, a wonderful grape! Shame it got driven out of the cocktail wine market by White Zinfandel and Chardonnay (how do they get the cat to sit on the bottle anyway?
).If you want a crisp, clean white with overtones of grapefruit and lychee, then get a New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc. Nobilo do a good one. But please stay away from the Two Buck Chuck at Trader Joe's... see my 2nd paragraph.
And for those who like the fizzy stuff, a good substitute for 'real' champers is a nice sparkling Saumur.
Yes, I'm a bit of a wine snob.
Give me a nice Argentinian Malbec (the only remaining "real" French grape) over an Aussie or US Merlot any day!
how do they get the cat to sit on the bottle anyway?
There's a type of Aussie wine called Cat's Piss on a Gooseberry Bush which was pretty nice.
Mar 27th 2007, 2:26 am
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
To tie in with another post the other day about alcohol. In NJ apparently restaurants do not need a liquor license if they only serve NJ wines.
Mar 27th 2007, 2:30 am
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Mar 27th 2007, 2:37 am
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Mar 27th 2007, 2:40 am
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
I thought that may be the case. It's been moved into TIO...just click on the title in the thread index and you will be magically transported into another world. Or visit the Take It Outside forum...you will see it in the forum's index. FYI any controversial subject ie politics should be posted in TIO.
Mar 27th 2007, 3:51 am
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
French wines exported are much higher in alcohol content than those for domestic consumption. Don't like many French wines over here, they're much better (those bought direct from vineyards so they don't go through the co-op system there) over the Pond. Alcohol content there is usually 10.5-11%, not the 13.5% we see here, which adversely affects the taste.
Whole new meaning to the term "blind drunk."
Mar 27th 2007, 4:26 am
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
Can't stand wines from that region myself. I used to live in the Buzet region and right close to Bordeaux and Cahors. Love clarets, but Buzet wines I can do without. Difficult to find a nice Cahors that's not too high in tannin. And when you find one that's high in tannin but still palatable (difficult!) then buy cases of the stuff!
Mar 27th 2007, 12:49 pm
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
I don't like chardonnay anyway - normally it's oaked to f**k. But NJ doesn't strike me as a promising wine region. After all, it's the home of the Toxic Avenger. Wifey raved about the Long Island wine, though. Mind you, she drinks tabasco straight from the bottle.
Give me a nice Semillion or Chinon Blanc. Mmmm. A few green olives. Some macademia nuts. Heaven.
Give me a nice Semillion or Chinon Blanc. Mmmm. A few green olives. Some macademia nuts. Heaven.
But unoaked chardonnay, like Pouille Fouisse.... now that I like.
I got a strange French wine called Columbelle - Ugni something grape - for $5.99, and it was lovely.
Oh and lol - you do know what WASP is right - White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. oh - and probably somewhat preppy.
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Mar 27th 2007, 12:51 pm
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
I thought that may be the case. It's been moved into TIO...just click on the title in the thread index and you will be magically transported into another world. Or visit the Take It Outside forum...you will see it in the forum's index. FYI any controversial subject ie politics should be posted in TIO.
Mar 27th 2007, 1:59 pm
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
It isn't heated
There is a really great little S.A. wine that you can find almost anywhere in the States called : Goats do Roam.
S.A. wines are absolutely fantastic
There is a really great little S.A. wine that you can find almost anywhere in the States called : Goats do Roam.
Thus was born, in 1999, what was for the South African wine scene an innovative blend using Rhône varieties such as shiraz, cinsaut, carignan and mourvèdre with a dash of local pinotage, which Back had sourced from various vineyards (his own and others) around Paarl and Malmesbury. But, despite the humour of the packaging, the content of the bottle impressed with its quality, combining rich complexity with great drinkability.
Mar 27th 2007, 3:22 pm
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
Fox Brooks do a great collection of wines for $6.
Mar 27th 2007, 10:20 pm
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
My wife and I currently drink FAR TOO MUCH wine. If it's only $4 - I see this still being a problem!
Mar 28th 2007, 12:48 am
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Re: Why do Americans like gingers?
Yay another oak hater. California Chardonnay - if I wanted to chew on bark, I'd go out in my yard and chew on a tree!
But unoaked chardonnay, like Pouille Fouisse.... now that I like.
I got a strange French wine called Columbelle - Ugni something grape - for $5.99, and it was lovely.
Oh and lol - you do know what WASP is right - White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. oh - and probably somewhat preppy.
But unoaked chardonnay, like Pouille Fouisse.... now that I like.
I got a strange French wine called Columbelle - Ugni something grape - for $5.99, and it was lovely.
Oh and lol - you do know what WASP is right - White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. oh - and probably somewhat preppy.
I love the way this thread is almost entirely a discussion of wine given the title.
