Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
Apr 28th 2016, 4:40 am
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
A .223 is extreme?
In Colorado it would not be legal to use against anything bigger than a rabbit.
In Colorado it would not be legal to use against anything bigger than a rabbit.
Apr 28th 2016, 4:50 am
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
Home defencee is a reason for many to keep a weapon or weapons around the house. Living in a low crime affluent area doesn't guarantee round the clock freedom from harm. Gang members from such places as San Bernardino and L.A have been known to hit residences along the Foothill communities. The proximity to freeways also allows for a fast escape
We've been burgled twice. In the UK. First was a door broken down while I was at work and some (Argos) jewellery stolen. Second was while DH was in bed asleep (during the day - he works night shift) and the burglar took his rucksack from the kitchen. The laptop was left alone, I've a feeling that as soon as the robber realised DH was in, he scarpered PDQ!
A girl at work once said that if she was burgled, she'd have to move. I didn't feel that way. As long as they didn't hurt my pets (No1 priority) nor wreck the place, I could get over it. TVs etc can be replaced, though I admit that I'd be upset if they took the laptop because of all the photos on it. It's things like photos that are important to me rather than valuable in monetary terms. And our laptop is old, TVs are only 24 and 28 inches, not 3D or anything like that, we haven't got iPhones. I've always hoped thieves would consider our stuff too crap to bother with lol!
Apr 28th 2016, 7:22 am
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
No, but it did prevent us from going to a bar in Dallas recommended in our Lonely Planet. Got there just as they were wheeling out the body. It was the final straw during an evening in which it took us nearly two hours to get into the city thanks to huge tailbacks with some of the worst driving I've seen in the States followed by some drug addict half-heartedly trying to steal money out my hand as I was putting it in the parking meter. Turned round, got back in the car and didn't stop until we reached the first motel beyond the city limits. Bit of a mistake since the place was obviously being used as a brothel. I'm not a big fan of Dallas as a result.
Apr 28th 2016, 8:40 am
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
I agree that AR-15s are extreme. I never saw the sense in owning such a weapon. The AK47 is a weapon popular enough among hard core gang members. Where they get them from is a mystery though I suspect they originally slip through the gun show loop holes
I wouldn't see any reason to limit the number of weapons a person owns. Many gun owners are collectors of modern and antique weapons and there's no harm in that and they are mentally normal with it. Numbers of weapons don't really mean much. A person who decides to go on a shooting spree only needs one weapon to do the job anyway.
Home defencee is a reason for many to keep a weapon or weapons around the house. Living in a low crime affluent area doesn't guarantee round the clock freedom from harm. Gang members from such places as San Bernardino and L.A have been known to hit residences along the Foothill communities. The proximity to freeways also allows for a fast escape
I wouldn't see any reason to limit the number of weapons a person owns. Many gun owners are collectors of modern and antique weapons and there's no harm in that and they are mentally normal with it. Numbers of weapons don't really mean much. A person who decides to go on a shooting spree only needs one weapon to do the job anyway.
Home defencee is a reason for many to keep a weapon or weapons around the house. Living in a low crime affluent area doesn't guarantee round the clock freedom from harm. Gang members from such places as San Bernardino and L.A have been known to hit residences along the Foothill communities. The proximity to freeways also allows for a fast escape
I know in Britain that home defence isn't a valid reason to own a gun. I'm inclined to think the same here, although perhaps a better option is to allow the ownership of a shotgun. If you're that worried about an intruder then a shotgun is a far more effective weapon than a pistol.
Apr 28th 2016, 9:40 am
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
I don't think collecting is a good enough reason to allow multiple gun ownership unless the weapons are deactivated or stored somewhere very safe. For the good of society we need weapons enthusiasts to make some concessions.
I know in Britain that home defence isn't a valid reason to own a gun. I'm inclined to think the same here, although perhaps a better option is to allow the ownership of a shotgun. If you're that worried about an intruder then a shotgun is a far more effective weapon than a pistol.
I know in Britain that home defence isn't a valid reason to own a gun. I'm inclined to think the same here, although perhaps a better option is to allow the ownership of a shotgun. If you're that worried about an intruder then a shotgun is a far more effective weapon than a pistol.
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Apr 28th 2016, 9:50 am
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No, but it did prevent us from going to a bar in Dallas recommended in our Lonely Planet. Got there just as they were wheeling out the body. It was the final straw during an evening in which it took us nearly two hours to get into the city thanks to huge tailbacks with some of the worst driving I've seen in the States followed by some drug addict half-heartedly trying to steal money out my hand as I was putting it in the parking meter. Turned round, got back in the car and didn't stop until we reached the first motel beyond the city limits. Bit of a mistake since the place was obviously being used as a brothel. I'm not a big fan of Dallas as a result.
Try something nicer than Dallas next time
Apr 28th 2016, 10:15 am
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
Not your lucky day obviously. I've driven all over the north and south west and across to Colorado and to eastern New Mexico, literally thousands of miles over the years. Never had a problem anywhere of any sort. I dare say there are plenty of dodgy motels which is why we always use Best Western, Four Points or Holiday Inn Express.
Try something nicer than Dallas next time
Try something nicer than Dallas next time
Apr 28th 2016, 10:25 am
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
No, but it did prevent us from going to a bar in Dallas recommended in our Lonely Planet. Got there just as they were wheeling out the body. It was the final straw during an evening in which it took us nearly two hours to get into the city thanks to huge tailbacks with some of the worst driving I've seen in the States followed by some drug addict half-heartedly trying to steal money out my hand as I was putting it in the parking meter. Turned round, got back in the car and didn't stop until we reached the first motel beyond the city limits. Bit of a mistake since the place was obviously being used as a brothel. I'm not a big fan of Dallas as a result.
My Dad nearly got arrested at gunpoint once for not understanding or accepting the assorted choice of breads for a sandwich.
It was Florida mind you and he was with my errant hobo brother.
Brother was once shot in the leg . The circumstances though are something of a mystery.
Apr 28th 2016, 11:18 am
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
Over the years we've had home invasions on a couple of occasions both by gang members from distant L.A, The houses are all detached with shrubbery and walls in between so a robber (as is what happened on one occasion) robbed a homeowner as he was getting out of his car inside his garage while the power door was still up. The streets are wide and traffic light, freeway less than a mile away and once off the surface streets it's easy to get distance very quickly from the scene of the crime.
As regards owners who possess numerous types of firearms these should always be kept in a proper gun safe with the key well hidden away. On many occasions when accidents occur it's because guns are left around for kids to get their hands on. So it's not so much a case of guns being the villains but human stupidity and carelessness instead. I would imagine that if a child were killed because of a situation like that then the parents would be held liable under the law for criminal negligence
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Apr 28th 2016, 11:22 am
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Well if Dallas wasn't safe for President Kennedy who else was it ever safe for?
Apr 28th 2016, 11:39 am
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Over here, in the US? That absolutely never happens. It's always a sad "tragic" accident and the family has already so much grief to deal with.
Apr 28th 2016, 1:19 pm
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
No, but it did prevent us from going to a bar in Dallas recommended in our Lonely Planet. Got there just as they were wheeling out the body. It was the final straw during an evening in which it took us nearly two hours to get into the city thanks to huge tailbacks with some of the worst driving I've seen in the States followed by some drug addict half-heartedly trying to steal money out my hand as I was putting it in the parking meter. Turned round, got back in the car and didn't stop until we reached the first motel beyond the city limits. Bit of a mistake since the place was obviously being used as a brothel. I'm not a big fan of Dallas as a result.
Sounds like a typical Saturday night in Dallas.
Apr 28th 2016, 5:00 pm
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
As for the gun crime in America it is no worse than what the European elite pulled off in WWI and WWII. Guess what, the Americans had the lowest casualty rates especially in WWI. For instance the Austrian Army in WWI had a casualty rate of somewhere around 90%. When you disarm the citizen you empower the Elite.
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Apr 29th 2016, 2:26 am
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In England the Queen is sovereign, in America the American people are sovereign. So how do you tell the sovereign that they are to disarm? You need to get your head around that.
As for the gun crime in America it is no worse than what the European elite pulled off in WWI and WWII. Guess what, the Americans had the lowest casualty rates especially in WWI. For instance the Austrian Army in WWI had a casualty rate of somewhere around 90%. When you disarm the citizen you empower the Elite.
As for the gun crime in America it is no worse than what the European elite pulled off in WWI and WWII. Guess what, the Americans had the lowest casualty rates especially in WWI. For instance the Austrian Army in WWI had a casualty rate of somewhere around 90%. When you disarm the citizen you empower the Elite.
That said many of their soldiers came from rural areas and had grown up with firearms and while they lacked any battle experience they certainly knew how to shoot well.
Apr 29th 2016, 2:27 am
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Re: Want to move back to the USA but my girlfriend's perspective differs than mine.
In England the Queen is sovereign, in America the American people are sovereign. So how do you tell the sovereign that they are to disarm? You need to get your head around that.
As for the gun crime in America it is no worse than what the European elite pulled off in WWI and WWII. Guess what, the Americans had the lowest casualty rates especially in WWI. For instance the Austrian Army in WWI had a casualty rate of somewhere around 90%. When you disarm the citizen you empower the Elite.
As for the gun crime in America it is no worse than what the European elite pulled off in WWI and WWII. Guess what, the Americans had the lowest casualty rates especially in WWI. For instance the Austrian Army in WWI had a casualty rate of somewhere around 90%. When you disarm the citizen you empower the Elite.
