I didn't notice a cloud DVR with Youtube TV, whereas Playstation Vue has that. I am still trying to work out if I need to buy a DVR as I can't see another way to record PBS programming. But any streaming service I use will have to include cloud DVR. Which is why I didn't continue with DirecTV, even though it will be the cheapest for us as we have AT&T phones.

A lot of the PBS shows are available on the PBS app or PBS channel.

Yeah - there are a lot, but not all - I am still going through the shows I recorded when I had DISH and working out what ones are missing from the PBS channel. I also need to see if I get them elsewhere, such as Amazon.

So I double checked YoutubeTV - that does have cloud DVR, I just scrolled past it too quickly.

Another question - anyone used PlayON?

Yes, I have a lifetime sub to PlayOn. I have everything except the cloud DVR, which is available on wither a subscription basis or at 20 cents per recording.

PlayOn is my go-to media server for torrented shows and is getting used less and less as more content becomes available, like EastEnders - a regularly downloaded show until I got Britbox and was able to support the program legally with a subscription!

Just about all my streaming is done through my Fire TVs and Roku. but PlayOn does give me some DVR functionality.

Great - thanks for the information. I think I would use it for the likes of Netflix if a show is disappearing. Although one thing that I am still not sure about with this whole streaming lark is how to avoid the adverts. We are trialing Playstation Vue right now, so hopefully if we record to the cloud, we can skip the adverts. But when we tried just watching a streaming program, we couldn't skip.

I don't know if any of you wonderful folks know the answer to this: why is it that I can see on Wikipedia or IMDB that a show has screened 10 episodes on TNT and if I still had DISH, I would have seen those 10 episodes and probably recorded them. But on ROKU there are only 5 episodes? no sign of the latest 5 either on demand or on TNT via Playstation Vue or directly as a streaming channel on the Roku? WHY?