Today I am a real American
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Re: Today I am a real American
If anyone subscribes to the theory that they scour new citizen records to fill juries, well it has been about two years since my oath ceremony.
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Last summons that I had, the defence lawyer guy was asking the jury pool, "how can you tell if someone is guilty". I just said, body language. I got off. It's not hard to spot the shuffling feet, the shifty, sideways looks after you have brought up a couple of kids. They weren't bad kids, but you know when they are lying. You might get off if you have a baby or young child at home to take care of.
The first summons I had, just after I got citizenship, they didn't need a lot of us, so let us go. The next one I couldn't get out of. It was a trial that lasted 2 weeks. All those were in different states than where we are now, so I'm expecting I'll get another summons as I'm on the voting list.
The first summons I had, just after I got citizenship, they didn't need a lot of us, so let us go. The next one I couldn't get out of. It was a trial that lasted 2 weeks. All those were in different states than where we are now, so I'm expecting I'll get another summons as I'm on the voting list.
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Last time I went for a 2-day summons (a few months ago in NJ), I was in the first group called into a court room. The judge asked everyone who was going to claim hardship to raise their hand and then said we could go. Got sent home 30 minutes later and was told not to come back for the 2nd day.
That was my 2nd experience. The first trip (just over 3 years to the day) the Judge had us fill out a questionairre to determine if we would be biased and if you answered 'Yes' to any of the questions they called you up to the bench to explain and give the lawyers an opportunity to kick you out (before the normal selection process when the lawyers question you and/or excuse people based on their looks). I did answer yes, but when I got up to the bench and they asked "Does that mean you can't be impartial?" I caved and said no. Ended up serving on a jury for a few days.
The point of my stories are: you won't serve on a jury unless you really want to. It's an interesting experience, but you'll likely lose all faith in the system if you do. I would never want to be at the mercy of people like those I served with.
That was my 2nd experience. The first trip (just over 3 years to the day) the Judge had us fill out a questionairre to determine if we would be biased and if you answered 'Yes' to any of the questions they called you up to the bench to explain and give the lawyers an opportunity to kick you out (before the normal selection process when the lawyers question you and/or excuse people based on their looks). I did answer yes, but when I got up to the bench and they asked "Does that mean you can't be impartial?" I caved and said no. Ended up serving on a jury for a few days.
The point of my stories are: you won't serve on a jury unless you really want to. It's an interesting experience, but you'll likely lose all faith in the system if you do. I would never want to be at the mercy of people like those I served with.
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I've been on a voting register somewhere in the world since the late 70s and have never been called up anywhere...ok, a few of those years I was in Singapore and not eligible, and the first few years here, I was on a green card, so not eligible (I assume), but I took the oath quite a few years back (or "had the lobotomy" as an American friend says who says yanks don't have a sense of humour) and I still haven't been called up. I'd actually quite like to do it.....see how things work, get away from the kids for a few days....
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No, here they look at driving license records. I've been jury-called twice in the past two years. I don't really mind; work pays me for the day and I usually catch up on some reading while waiting to be empaneled. I'm enough of an amateur law geek to like voir dire, too. The chances you will be chosen for a jury, let alone a docket lasting longer than a single day, are minuscule.
Unlike sangreal, I quite liked the people I was empaneled with last time. They took the case (a murder case) and their role in the jury quite seriously; they asked good, intelligent questions about the law and about how to be a good juror. One woman even burst into tears as she explained why she thought she could not be a fair juror (she was ashamed of herself but understood the process had to be a just one). I would like to have the finally selected jury on a case in which I was involved. I wasn't selected because they filled 12 slots before they got to my juror number (I was number 35 in line, I think).
Unlike sangreal, I quite liked the people I was empaneled with last time. They took the case (a murder case) and their role in the jury quite seriously; they asked good, intelligent questions about the law and about how to be a good juror. One woman even burst into tears as she explained why she thought she could not be a fair juror (she was ashamed of herself but understood the process had to be a just one). I would like to have the finally selected jury on a case in which I was involved. I wasn't selected because they filled 12 slots before they got to my juror number (I was number 35 in line, I think).
Last edited by Speedwell; Nov 2nd 2013 at 6:52 pm.
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I'm actually surprised they don't somehow pull your credit history to select jury candidates .... seems they do so for just about everything else overhere.
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In California, the get candidates names from the DMV, voter registration applications, property titles, and just about anywhere else.
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I'm actually surprised they don't somehow pull your credit history to select jury candidates .... seems they do so for just about everything else overhere.