Time for another gun thread
#32
I'd say the gun didn't do Mr. Doyle any favours at all in this case. Fair enough, he shut up the bloke that was running his mouth, but he'll do some hard time for it in the end.
Hardly seems worth it, when all he needed to do was tell the guy to **** off and call the fuzz if he didn't.
Hardly seems worth it, when all he needed to do was tell the guy to **** off and call the fuzz if he didn't.
#34










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Three key questions.
1. Does the recreational benefit of guns out way the risk?
Life is a risk, so probably.
2. Do guns make you safer.
All the stats seem to indicate no.
3. Is your property worth more than a criminals life?
No for me, though others opinions will differ.
1. Does the recreational benefit of guns out way the risk?
Life is a risk, so probably.
2. Do guns make you safer.
All the stats seem to indicate no.
3. Is your property worth more than a criminals life?
No for me, though others opinions will differ.
#36
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Yes to all 3.
Next question.
Next question.
#37
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There has to be some kind of happy medium with respect to private gun ownership though, something that allows the sport shooter to go make holes in paper, or the hunter to bag himself some venison but doesn't allow crazies to perforate someone because they can't handle a simple altercation ...
#38
Three key questions.
1. Does the recreational benefit of guns out way the risk?
Life is a risk, so probably.
2. Do guns make you safer.
All the stats seem to indicate no.
3. Is your property worth more than a criminals life?
No for me, though others opinions will differ.
1. Does the recreational benefit of guns out way the risk?
Life is a risk, so probably.
2. Do guns make you safer.
All the stats seem to indicate no.
3. Is your property worth more than a criminals life?
No for me, though others opinions will differ.
Failing that, there's a risk in everything. I could break a leg playing football, but I don't let it stop me.
2. No, they don't. Irrespective of what reason they are bought for, the gun itself isn't going to do anything to make you safer. It's how you keep and operate it that will determine how safe you are.
3. Hard to answer this one as life only has subjective value. One thing though, property aside, I value my life over a criminal's, so I'm damn sure not going to risk being put away for killing someone unless I was sure beyond reasonable doubt that my own life, or that of someone close to me, was in danger. If not, run like **** wins every time.
#40
People really should be keeping shotguns for 'home defense' anyway. The low velocity rounds make the risk of collateral damage from stray bullets go away, but they have excellent stopping power, if that's your ultimate goal.
#41
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It is up to you want you want to do or think, only becomes an issue when you want to force your opinions on other people.
#42
I'd say the gun didn't do Mr. Doyle any favours at all in this case. Fair enough, he shut up the bloke that was running his mouth, but he'll do some hard time for it in the end.
Hardly seems worth it, when all he needed to do was tell the guy to **** off and call the fuzz if he didn't.
Hardly seems worth it, when all he needed to do was tell the guy to **** off and call the fuzz if he didn't.
#44
It appears there was a witness who said they saw Gonzalez back off before he was shot, so maybe that affects it.
#45
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His issue would be holding wife and child, can not see much justification for that and a much easier charge to make stick.



