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Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
(Post 11709320)
Statistical data tells us that the gun makes you less safe. This is true whether or not you are aware of it or are willing to acknowledge it.
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Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11709335)
In this case?
Hardly seems worth it, when all he needed to do was tell the guy to **** off and call the fuzz if he didn't. |
Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by kimilseung
(Post 11709327)
Feeling safer is not the same as actually being safer.
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Re: Time for another gun thread
Three key questions.
1. Does the recreational benefit of guns out way the risk? Life is a risk, so probably. 2. Do guns make you safer. All the stats seem to indicate no. 3. Is your property worth more than a criminals life? No for me, though others opinions will differ. |
Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by audio
(Post 11709343)
If I feel safer, I will be happier at least and maybe my heart will keep pumping a bit longer, particularly with my 45 at hand.
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Re: Time for another gun thread
Yes to all 3.
Next question. |
Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 11709324)
There has to be some kind of happy medium with respect to private gun ownership though, something that allows the sport shooter to go make holes in paper, or the hunter to bag himself some venison but doesn't allow crazies to perforate someone because they can't handle a simple altercation ...
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Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by kimilseung
(Post 11709344)
Three key questions.
1. Does the recreational benefit of guns out way the risk? Life is a risk, so probably. 2. Do guns make you safer. All the stats seem to indicate no. 3. Is your property worth more than a criminals life? No for me, though others opinions will differ. Failing that, there's a risk in everything. I could break a leg playing football, but I don't let it stop me. 2. No, they don't. Irrespective of what reason they are bought for, the gun itself isn't going to do anything to make you safer. It's how you keep and operate it that will determine how safe you are. 3. Hard to answer this one as life only has subjective value. One thing though, property aside, I value my life over a criminal's, so I'm damn sure not going to risk being put away for killing someone unless I was sure beyond reasonable doubt that my own life, or that of someone close to me, was in danger. If not, run like **** wins every time. |
Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 11709347)
Yes to all 3.
Next question. |
Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
(Post 11709349)
If it was up to me, I would allow rifles and restrict handguns. Handguns are too easy to conceal and too convenient to use.
People really should be keeping shotguns for 'home defense' anyway. The low velocity rounds make the risk of collateral damage from stray bullets go away, but they have excellent stopping power, if that's your ultimate goal. |
Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by kimilseung
(Post 11709354)
The next question is to ask you to cite credible references for a 'yes' to #2. That question is not answered by an opinion.
It is up to you want you want to do or think, only becomes an issue when you want to force your opinions on other people. |
Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 11709341)
I'd say the gun didn't do Mr. Doyle any favours at all in this case. Fair enough, he shut up the bloke that was running his mouth, but he'll do some hard time for it in the end.
Hardly seems worth it, when all he needed to do was tell the guy to **** off and call the fuzz if he didn't. |
Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
(Post 11709362)
It's Florida, stand my ground laws will probably mean he doesn't do any time. Getting out of your car to initiate a confrontation is usually seen as making you the aggressor regardless of what the other motorist has done.
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Re: Time for another gun thread
Originally Posted by sir_eccles
(Post 11709362)
It's Florida, stand my ground laws will probably mean he doesn't do any time. Getting out of your car to initiate a confrontation is usually seen as making you the aggressor regardless of what the other motorist has done.
It appears there was a witness who said they saw Gonzalez back off before he was shot, so maybe that affects it. |
Re: Time for another gun thread
His issue would be holding wife and child, can not see much justification for that and a much easier charge to make stick.
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