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tom169 May 20th 2019 9:13 pm

Sensational headline
 
Check out the latest US horror story - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7048611/British-marketing-manager-visiting-girlfriend-deported-life-moving-text.html

Not sure I understand the lifetime ban from the USA. I think that is pushing the story a bit too far.

SanDiegogirl May 20th 2019 9:21 pm

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Total sensationalism ..... according to the DM the guy now has PTSD because of the incident !!!

Pulaski May 20th 2019 9:22 pm

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Originally Posted by tom169 (Post 12686529)
Check out the latest US horror story …… Not sure I understand the lifetime ban from the USA. I think that is pushing the story a bit too far.

I suspect that he has been barred from using the VWP, not banned from the US. :unsure:

People really should be more careful with how they describe/ characterize their travel plans to the US by electronic communications and on social media - wasn't just last year that someone was barred from entry as a suspected terrorist for stating that they were going to "tear up the town" when visiting Las Vegas?

scrubbedexpat091 May 20th 2019 10:47 pm

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Probably should have cleared his text messages, and doubt it was the message alone that got him denied entry.

andyrebell May 20th 2019 10:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12686535)
I suspect that he has been barred from using the VWP, not banned from the US. :unsure:

People really should be more careful with how they describe/ characterize their travel plans to the US by electronic communications and on social media - wasn't just last year that someone was barred from entry as a suspected terrorist for stating that they were going to "tear up the town" when visiting Las Vegas?

Clearing text messages would look real suspect wouldn't it though. Especially if they look at the partner's phone if they are waiting at the airport.

You can be banned for life for lying about your intentions can't you not just sent home and maybe he refused to admit the truth or their version of the truth. As we discussed in the Canada forum while you guys have been helping me with this ETA thing, I know people from work who know people who have been deported and banned for ten years they got took out of the taxi line at JFK after clearing the immigration and handing in your custom form and getting the bags. They must have changed their minds or more likely let them in and then deport with a ban as opposed to refusal of entry giving a stronger legal position. Stamping in the passport says ten year ban not refusal of entry. And remember Darren Halliwell the english guy who hit his wife on the plane going to LA a couple of years back he was deported while the court case was ongoing and the judge was fuming because they can't get him back because government deported him. The can do whatever they want these guys.

Nutmegger May 21st 2019 1:36 am

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Originally Posted by andyrebell (Post 12686580)
Clearing text messages would look real suspect wouldn't it though. Especially if they look at the partner's phone if they are waiting at the airport.

You can be banned for life for lying about your intentions can't you not just sent home and maybe he refused to admit the truth or their version of the truth. As we discussed in the Canada forum while you guys have been helping me with this ETA thing, I know people from work who know people who have been deported and banned for ten years they got took out of the taxi line at JFK after clearing the immigration and handing in your custom form and getting the bags. They must have changed their minds or more likely let them in and then deport with a ban as opposed to refusal of entry giving a stronger legal position. Stamping in the passport says ten year ban not refusal of entry. And remember Darren Halliwell the english guy who hit his wife on the plane going to LA a couple of years back he was deported while the court case was ongoing and the judge was fuming because they can't get him back because government deported him. The can do whatever they want these guys.


What is suspect about clearing text messages? I never leave messages or recent phone call records hanging around on my phone.

scrubbedexpat099 May 21st 2019 2:11 am

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5 year ban for being deported.

No more VWP

Lifetime ban would be up to the Consulate if there was a Misrep involved.

Marketing Manager at his age and he gets a 3 month holiday, nice!

Dorothy May 21st 2019 5:18 am

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Originally Posted by Nutmegger (Post 12686623)



What is suspect about clearing text messages? I never leave messages or recent phone call records hanging around on my phone.

Same. I don't keep emails or text messages for very long at all. About once a month I go through my phone and clean up the crap.

civilservant May 21st 2019 10:29 am

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The text message stated 'in a months time I am moving to be with you'

Based on that, they did the right thing and denied him entry. I'm sure he was offered the chance to withdraw his application for admission, he obviously didn't do so so was refused entry.

Can't say I have much sympathy.

celticgrid May 21st 2019 11:48 am

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The heck with the main article...I want to know how I can get their exchange rate!


It currently costs $14, which is around £9 in British money.

BritInParis May 21st 2019 11:52 am

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Originally Posted by celticgrid (Post 12686817)
The heck with the main article...I want to know how I can get their exchange rate!

Time machine?

andyrebell Jun 3rd 2019 1:34 pm

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hree-days.html

Another sensational headline though I suspect she is lying about a lot of it to get money out of the daily mail. According to google it is 100 miles from Austin to gatesville texas which is the location of the female death row unit.

petitefrancaise Jun 4th 2019 1:45 am

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yeah well. Texas does lethal injection now and hasn't used the electric chair since 1964.
I'm assuming she was just sent back on either one of the 2 flights a day to London but that wouldn't make a good story.

Pulaski Jun 4th 2019 1:32 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrebell (Post 12692788)
…. Another sensational headline though I suspect she is lying about a lot of it to get money out of the daily mail. According to google it is 100 miles from Austin to gatesville texas which is the location of the female death row unit.

She didn't say she saw the female death row unit, she said she saw an electric chair, and I can imagine that a replica of old sparky would make an interesting jail house decoration. :)

andyrebell Jun 7th 2019 12:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12693228)
She didn't say she saw the female death row unit, she said she saw an electric chair, and I can imagine that a replica of old sparky would make an interesting jail house decoration. :)

Yeah but she is trying to make it sound sinister like she is trying to suggest they did it to frighten her being like we could put you in this if we wanted you limey so and so and that is not what happened.


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