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Just looking up the place on Google Maps to reminisce. It has a fantastic grid layout. :blink:

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We had a lucky escape from Nebraska. My daughter was engaged to a Navy SEAL from Nebraska. It never came to a wedding though. I could have ended up living the existence of the undead in Lincoln. Horrible thought !

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1,896,190 people apparently....Lol

Would not be high on my list of states though.

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Am unsure where I disagreed about what you stated about Mormons in California, and the gay-marriage proposition.

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The population of Northern Ireland in an area the size of the Czech Republic. That doesn't actually seem too bad when put that way.

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I'm gently nudging you to see that California just might have more diversity of publicly stated opinion than you are trying to suggest through your normal "anecdotes".

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No, it's bigger, nearer the size of the UK than the Czech Republic.

The US has such vast untapped agricultural potential, I don't know why they want to grow everything in California and cause water problems.

But fortunately we're getting a lot of rain now.

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Yes but it's not two wrongs is it?

One is an example of a privileged and entitled group that has pushed their views on everybody else for so long that, when they find that on occasion that they are unable to get away with it, they lose their minds and claim that they're the ones being oppressed. The other is a bunch of individuals who are minding their own business and actually are being bullied and oppressed by an organized group whose function it is to insert themselves in the lives of others and control their behaviors. I'll let you work out for yourself which one is which.

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Ability to grow year round?

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Really? How do you know this? How do you measure "influence"? This is a strange statement ... one group is a political party, the other is a terrorist organization masquerading as a political party.

A quick internet search says there are significantly more avowed members of the KKK than that of the Communist Party of America. That doesn't include skinheads, the Aryan Brotherhood and white supremacist fringe groups in general. If we counted all of these groups I would say that the influence is significantly less marginal than that the Communist Party of America.

Based on my own personal observation ... the number of white supremacists who crawled out from under their rocks to support Trump were significantly higher in number than any "communists" who came out to support Bernie or even Hillary.

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Pretty much. But when I drive down the Central Valley and see signs saying "Is growing food wasting water" I can only answer that it is if you continue to grow monsoon crops and water intensive trees such as almonds in what is essentially a desert climate. Pun intended, it's nutty.

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Good post as of course I am generalizing based on my own experiences in California and what I noticed in articles describing the situation. I actually look forward to hearing anecdotes as much of the media- either right or left- seems increasingly biased these days, hence the more information one gets the better.

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While the Southern Poverty Defense League certainly not an unbiased source, they do keep close track on membership of right-wing groups, certainly their research just glancing at their website and public statements of their people, that membership in the KKK and other right wing groups far exceed that of the communist party.

The membership of the right wing groups such as the KKK does seem though very marginal overall, and from what I understand up to 25% of the membership of some of those groups are government informants.

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Spoken like a true believer.

I think both sides on the left and right are wrong when their actions and tactics go beyond civil and reasoned debate and try to force their views on others especially in suppressing free speech such as often one comes across in universities in the USA these days.

The right may wish to pass laws formulated from their own religious views that effect others, while the left from their secular point of view wishes to pass laws that infringe upon the religious views of others.

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Am I missing something here? There's no "restriction on travel".

They can still ask employees to go and if individual employees refuse, they can ask other employees.

It's clearly put in place so that nobody can be required, via their government employment, to go to a state where they may be subject to discrimination. Anybody can choose to go wherever the hell they want. What's the brouhaha?