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Scarlett-Dallas Feb 18th 2007 4:18 pm

Raymond
 
Jeb BUSH??????

Please tell me you are feeling unwell!

MightBe Feb 18th 2007 4:30 pm

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by Scarlett-Dallas (Post 4420644)
Jeb BUSH??????
Please tell me you are feeling unwell!

I sorry to give you bad news
He just ran away from home.

Scarlett-Dallas Feb 18th 2007 4:34 pm

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by MightBe (Post 4420672)
I sorry to give you bad news
He just ran away from home.

Jeb did? About time. I hope he ran a long way!

TouristTrap Feb 19th 2007 3:13 am

Re: Raymond
 
Excuse me for butting my nose in, but what are you two going on about?

TruBrit Feb 19th 2007 3:16 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by MightBe (Post 4420672)
I sorry to give you bad news
He just ran away from home.

wish he'd take his dad with him.... jeb's dad that is :lol:

Ray Feb 19th 2007 3:19 am

Re: Raymond
 
[Its a continuation from another part of the site..
The OP is a delusional Democrat ...

TouristTrap Feb 19th 2007 3:27 am

Re: Raymond
 
Ah, I'm apolitical when it comes to the US, IMO they're both the same party - but having lived under Jeb, I doubt there is anyone in the state that will tell you that he was a bad governor - he was a fairly good one. I hope this one is even better.

Ray Feb 19th 2007 3:36 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by TouristTrap (Post 4422252)
Ah, I'm apolitical when it comes to the US, IMO they're both the same party - but having lived under Jeb, I doubt there is anyone in the state that will tell you that he was a bad governor - he was a fairly good one. I hope this one is even better.

Yup ... He made just the one error in his reign ..in my mind ...
Make a good president down the line ....

TouristTrap Feb 19th 2007 3:38 am

Re: Raymond
 
Yeah, but we should let vegetables lie.....:p

Scarlett-Dallas Feb 19th 2007 6:14 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by Ray (Post 4422225)
[Its a continuation from another part of the site..
The OP is a delusional Democrat ...

I believe that's a contradiction in terms, Ray, me old fruit. Almost as bizarre as the phrase reasonable Republican.

:p

When the next Commander-in-Chief, Barack Obama, brings in universal healthcare, I hope you'll remember to thank him--and me for voting for him!

:beer: xx

TouristTrap Feb 19th 2007 8:18 am

Re: Raymond
 
Obama? No chance pet, though who the hell knows who will get it. Edwards?

Irn-bru Feb 19th 2007 8:47 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by TouristTrap (Post 4423382)
Obama? No chance pet, though who the hell knows who will get it. Edwards?

I hope Rudy!

Rete Feb 19th 2007 8:53 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by Scarlett-Dallas (Post 4422784)
When the next Commander-in-Chief, Barack Obama, brings in universal healthcare, I hope you'll remember to thank him--and me for voting for him!

:beer: xx


Ahhh another one who dreams the dream.

Why in heaven's name would anyone want to vote into the highest office someone who is untried, too young, inexperienced, tongue-tied and amaterish (among the nicer things I can say about him). Based on the platform that he wants universal healthcare? Hope you don't think the US is going to fund healthcare for the universe. Would be nice to have country-wide healthcare for all US Citizens, however. But bear in mind, that the commander-in-chief has only the power to sign or reject such a proposal IF it gets through the house and senate. Now there are the votes you should really be concerned with.

Rete
A Political Swinger ;-)

Rete Feb 19th 2007 8:54 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by irnbru4u (Post 4423512)
I hope Rudy!

Yikes! I lived through his administration as NY Mayor. The only reason the country knows about him is because of September 11th. Otherwise he, too, would be a non-name non-remembered politican.

fatbrit Feb 19th 2007 9:00 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by Rete (Post 4423536)
Ahhh another one who dreams the dream.

Why in heaven's name would anyone want to vote into the highest office someone who is untried, too young, inexperienced, tongue-tied and amaterish (among the nicer things I can say about him).


Why in heaven's name did they vote into the highest office a military deserter and untreated drug addict, who was born with a silver spoon in Connecticut but pretends to be a Texas rancher, who claims to be an Xtian but seems to enjoy killing people, and who has failed in every single endeavor he has taken on.

There's no accounting for electorate taste, me thinks.

Irn-bru Feb 19th 2007 9:01 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by Rete (Post 4423542)
Yikes! I lived through his administration as NY Mayor. The only reason the country knows about him is because of September 11th. Otherwise he, too, would be a non-name non-remembered politican.

Maybe but it did happen and that proved to me he had compassion and was a leader that could inspire people to follow him.
I remember beforehand him standing up to the 'mob' re bin men etc also a lot of other 'controversial' issues he took a stand on and usually came out winning.
I like where he stands on issues, on Larry King he came across well, apologised and seemed likable. He may be a bit light on experience for the top job but he's intelligent and I think looking at all the other candidates he'd be the best leader.

TruBrit Feb 19th 2007 9:06 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by irnbru4u (Post 4423512)
I hope Rudy!

why? OK he dealt with 9/11 sensibly but what other strings does he have to his bow? i was amazed when he announced the other day that he was going to run :huh:

ok i refer to the answer you gave to rete in the above post ;)

Rete Feb 19th 2007 9:19 am

Re: Raymond
 
Because they closed their eyes in the booth and just pulled whatever handle they touch?????

Hey it was one way to decide on two losers.



Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 4423559)
Why in heaven's name did they vote into the highest office a military deserter and untreated drug addict, who was born with a silver spoon in Connecticut but pretends to be a Texas rancher, who claims to be an Xtian but seems to enjoy killing people, and who has failed in every single endeavor he has taken on.

There's no accounting for electorate taste, me thinks.


fatbrit Feb 19th 2007 9:26 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by Rete (Post 4423618)
Because they closed their eyes in the booth and just pulled whatever handle they touch?????

Hey it was one way to decide on two losers.

The only similarity with the other "loser" was the birthplace and silver spoon.

Irn-bru Feb 19th 2007 9:31 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by TruBrit (Post 4423577)
why? OK he dealt with 9/11 sensibly but what other strings does he have to his bow? i was amazed when he announced the other day that he was going to run :huh:

ok i refer to the answer you gave to rete in the above post ;)

:)

I hate Hilary, Obama's a joke (no experience and is been given a free ride by the press - no hard interview yet)
John McCain I like but is too old, and I don't like the others in the Republican race (either too Political ie don't trust them, or never heard of them)
Also I think we need someone strong to beat Hilary (I did say I hated her?:D )

meauxna Feb 19th 2007 9:32 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 4423559)
Why in heaven's name did they vote into the highest office a military deserter and untreated drug addict, who was born with a silver spoon in Connecticut but pretends to be a Texas rancher, who claims to be an Xtian but seems to enjoy killing people, and who has failed in every single endeavor he has taken on.

There's no accounting for electorate taste, me thinks.

Marketing, darling. Marketing.

fatbrit Feb 19th 2007 9:36 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by irnbru4u (Post 4423668)
:)

I hate Hilary, Obama's a joke (no experience and is been given a free ride by the press - no hard interview yet)
John McCain I like but is too old, and I don't like the others in the Republican race (either too Political ie don't trust them, or never heard of them)
Also I think we need someone strong to beat Hilary (I did say I hated her?:D )

McCain's a 2-faced turd. And he's blown it by so being. What's wrong with Hilary? She's a nice Repuglican!

TouristTrap Feb 19th 2007 9:37 am

Re: Raymond
 
Which comes from $$$$ darlin, $$$$$$$ - lobby $$$$ that is.....

I seem to recall Rudy brought crime in NYC under control - it was out of control when Ed or whatever his name is, was there.

Irn-bru Feb 19th 2007 9:39 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 4423695)
McCain's a 2-faced turd. And he's blown it by so being. What's wrong with Hilary? She's a nice Repuglican!

Think there are nicer examples of the breed about though ;)

fatbrit Feb 19th 2007 9:39 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 4423673)
Marketing, darling. Marketing.

Had visions of Absolutely Fabulous there!

britvic Feb 19th 2007 9:39 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by irnbru4u (Post 4423668)
:)

I hate Hilary, Obama's a joke (no experience and is been given a free ride by the press - no hard interview yet)
John McCain I like but is too old, and I don't like the others in the Republican race (either too Political ie don't trust them, or never heard of them)
Also I think we need someone strong to beat Hilary (I did say I hated her?:D )

But can you vote ? if so well you've got a hard choice on your hands :blink: I will not be over here by then so I dont have any interest :p

fatbrit Feb 19th 2007 9:40 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by irnbru4u (Post 4423702)
Think there are nicer examples of the breed about though ;)

My answer to this stupid right habit of calling it the DemocRAT party.

TouristTrap Feb 19th 2007 9:44 am

Re: Raymond
 
Which brings me to the question.

Who has become more liberal/conservative since being here?

I've become extremely liberal compared to what I was when I first arrived.

Rete Feb 19th 2007 9:45 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 4423646)
The only similarity with the other "loser" was the birthplace and silver spoon.

Well I voted for that loser and he still lose....go figure.

Hey we don't really have a vote that counts anyway so what the heck. As seen in the last election whichever candidate/party has the most to offer in kickbacks is the one that will be made president. Definitely not the voters' choice.

Rete Feb 19th 2007 9:46 am

Re: Raymond
 
Well when you're District Attorney that's your job. Nothing extraordinary about that job performance.



Originally Posted by irnbru4u (Post 4423564)
Maybe but it did happen and that proved to me he had compassion and was a leader that could inspire people to follow him.
I remember beforehand him standing up to the 'mob' re bin men etc also a lot of other 'controversial' issues he took a stand on and usually came out winning.
I like where he stands on issues, on Larry King he came across well, apologised and seemed likable. He may be a bit light on experience for the top job but he's intelligent and I think looking at all the other candidates he'd be the best leader.


Rete Feb 19th 2007 9:48 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by TouristTrap (Post 4423696)
Which comes from $$$$ darlin, $$$$$$$ - lobby $$$$ that is.....

I seem to recall Rudy brought crime in NYC under control - it was out of control when Ed or whatever his name is, was there.

Ahh did he or did the Chief of Police? And that is Ed Koch ;)

Irn-bru Feb 19th 2007 9:49 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by britvic (Post 4423706)
But can you vote ? if so well you've got a hard choice on your hands I will not be over here by then so I dont have any interest

no :D
Though was it our state :confused: that was fighting against documentation proving who you are (ie driving license) when you go and vote(even though you could obtain them for free) - reason given making another obstacle for people to vote !!!

So I could go and vote illegally :D :unsure: (and no I'm sorry no links as I can't remember where it was!)

Why the US voting system can't be the same as the UK's with stringent security checking you are who you are, and easy to understand ballots with no hanging chad's :confused:
So yes I am jealous of you being back in the more 'advanced' country when it comes to voting :D

Irn-bru Feb 19th 2007 9:51 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 4423710)
My answer to this stupid right habit of calling it the DemocRAT party.

never heard that before - thanks for that :rofl:

Irn-bru Feb 19th 2007 9:55 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by TouristTrap (Post 4423719)
Which brings me to the question.

Who has become more liberal/conservative since being here?

I've become extremely liberal compared to what I was when I first arrived.

Me too! Apparently there is such a thing as a conservative (with small 'c') liberal (I think that means you can vote Deomocrat or Republican:confused: )I like the sound of that.

TouristTrap Feb 19th 2007 10:04 am

Re: Raymond
 
I can't vote here - thank God.

Scarlett-Dallas Feb 19th 2007 10:21 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by Rete (Post 4423536)
Ahhh another one who dreams the dream.

Why in heaven's name would anyone want to vote into the highest office someone who is untried, too young, inexperienced, tongue-tied and amaterish (among the nicer things I can say about him). Based on the platform that he wants universal healthcare? Hope you don't think the US is going to fund healthcare for the universe. Would be nice to have country-wide healthcare for all US Citizens, however. But bear in mind, that the commander-in-chief has only the power to sign or reject such a proposal IF it gets through the house and senate. Now there are the votes you should really be concerned with.

Rete
A Political Swinger ;-)

Universal healthcare is what the politicians call it. I didn't call it that. No, that's not why I'm voting for him, but I like the idea. I'm voting for him on the strength of what he has to say in his book, The Audacity of Hope. If you haven't read it, it's worth taking the time before rejecting him based on spin. About time we had a prez with a few braincells to rub together AND a dollop of integrity. What a thought!

Yes, I dream. I was listening to NPR's documentary on the fight for desegregation today as I drove home from work. Had me in tears that people could be so... unspeakable, and unspeakably dumb. And so recently.

I'm a swinger too. I swing between hope and despair...

Regards
-=-
Scarlett

meauxna Feb 19th 2007 10:58 am

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by fatbrit (Post 4423704)
Had visions of Absolutely Fabulous there!

I sort of look like her too (scary). Well, the crazy hair anyway. And minus the Pucci of course.

TouristTrap Feb 19th 2007 11:12 am

Re: Raymond
 
WONDERFUL SHOW!

Frankly, I find him scary, not Osama.......he will not get in for a few reasons, one being that he's black, yes I know, but threaten the crackers with a black prez or Billiary and they'll have everyone including exhuming their great grandma to go and vote.

Sad to say, but it he reality in most parts of this country.

Rete Feb 19th 2007 12:53 pm

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by Scarlett-Dallas (Post 4423869)
I'm voting for him on the strength of what he has to say in his book, The Audacity of Hope.


Please, Scarlett, tell me that is not the reason why you would vote for him. A book? What was written in a book? How do you know it was written by him? How do you know what is in it is not all hype to get the public's attention for just this purpose. Books are fictional. We don't know what he thinks, feels, believes, can do, can't do. He hasn't been tried and his feet are still wet.

Please rethink this.

meauxna Feb 19th 2007 1:36 pm

Re: Raymond
 

Originally Posted by Rete (Post 4424367)
Please, Scarlett, tell me that is not the reason why you would vote for him. A book? What was written in a book? How do you know it was written by him? How do you know what is in it is not all hype to get the public's attention for just this purpose. Books are fictional. We don't know what he thinks, feels, believes, can do, can't do. He hasn't been tried and his feet are still wet.

Please rethink this.

Just to play Devil's Advocate here..
Aren't they ALL untried? Shoot, we had one that we'd tried and that didn't seem to get him not elected, or ensure that he did a good job.


Of course, I'm the gal who thought Ross Perot had a good idea the first time round too....


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