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Old Aug 22nd 2007 | 4:09 pm
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Hi, my friend and her husband are applying for a green card through husbands employer except her hubby is not working for that company anymore, he is working in a different country for someone else. The company who were applying for the green card are still going to go ahead with the process...they havent yet submitted any forms but she thinks she will be living in the states within 6 months....don't know much about us visas but thought the whole process took about 5 years and can the employer still go ahead won''t immigration find out?
would like to know just out of curiousity as it all seems alittle scary to me.
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Old Aug 22nd 2007 | 4:42 pm
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Is this possible? No.
 
Old Aug 22nd 2007 | 4:45 pm
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It's impossible to even read.
 
Old Aug 22nd 2007 | 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Leslie66
It's impossible to even read.
excuse my ignorance but do you mean that I need to re-word the thread or that my friend is talking utter bs
 
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Originally Posted by marcandclare
excuse my ignorance but do you mean that I need to re-word the thread or that my friend is talking utter bs
Both.
 
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oh, in a nutshell the company is going to lie for them to get them in the country
 
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Originally Posted by marcandclare
oh, in a nutshell the company is going to lie for them to get them in the country
And in that, you've probably answered your own question.
 
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Originally Posted by marcandclare
oh, in a nutshell the company is going to lie for them to get them in the country
Why would they want to do that? What possible benefit could the employer get from that? Besides being totally unethical, it just doesn't make sense.

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Why would they want to do that? What possible benefit could the employer get from that? Besides being totally unethical, it just doesn't make sense.

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I have no idea, they kinda know the guy who owns the company, I just wanted to know how they could do it and if they would get found out ...and also how unfair it is when people are doing it legally and have to wait years for pr
 
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Originally Posted by marcandclare
I have no idea, they kinda know the guy who owns the company, I just wanted to know how they could do it and if they would get found out ...and also how unfair it is when people are doing it legally and have to wait years for pr
Like my mom used to love to tell me:

Life isn't fair.
 
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Originally Posted by marcandclare
I have no idea, they kinda know the guy who owns the company, I just wanted to know how they could do it and if they would get found out ...and also how unfair it is when people are doing it legally and have to wait years for pr
I don't know what paperwork is involved in doing this but it's my impression that green card applications are fairly thorough these days, and may involve the presentation of tax returns, company and maybe personal financial records...I'd be surprised if it were that easy to lie about a company/employee relationship.
 
Old Aug 23rd 2007 | 12:08 pm
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On Aug 23, 5:09 am, marcandclare <[email protected]>
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> Hi, my friend and her husband are applying for a green card through
> husbands employer except her hubby is not working for that company
> anymore, he is working in a different country for someone else. The
> company who were applying for the green card are still going to go ahead
> with the process...

A USA company can apply for an employment-based green card for anyone
they like. The candidate doesn't have to have any relationship with
the company, or be in the USA.

> they havent yet submitted any forms but she thinks
> she will be living in the states within 6 months....don't know much
> about us visas but thought the whole process took about 5 years

I don't know the current timescales - it depends on the category they
apply under and the citizenship of your friend's husband - but I think
in almost all cases it will be a lot more than 6 months.

> and can
> the employer still go ahead

Yes.

> won''t immigration find out?

About what?

> would like to know just out of curiousity as it all seems alittle scary
> to me.
 
Old Aug 23rd 2007 | 12:13 pm
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On Aug 23, 2:18 pm, marcandclare <[email protected]>
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> oh, in a nutshell the company is going to lie for them to get them in
> the country

What??? You didn't say anything in your original message about the
company lying. What are they going to lie about? A very silly thing to
do, with potentially nasty consequences for everyone involved.
 
Old Aug 23rd 2007 | 12:53 pm
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See what else you can find out in the way of real information from her. I think weird things happen all the time.

For example, I know of a family who were immigrating through their US husband/father. The wife was very put out that they would all have to travel to Montreal for the interview, because they lived in the outer reaches of British Colombia.
She 'got a lawyer' and never did go to MTL for an interview, yet entered the US on an immigrant visa and became a PR immediately.

I knew less than nothing about immigration at the time so I didn't really think anything of it. But it bugs me sometimes when I think about it now. I don't really like the family, so I don't want to call them to find out. But apparently she went through her naturalization this summer (so I hear).
 
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The GC process is so long and intense and costly, I doubt a "company" would really do this anyway. Let alone the risks of the lying company owners going to jail for fraud (yes, this would be fraud). I've got GC for people that HAVE worked for me for real for years and so I know it's not easy when things are "REAL".

The company has to advertise the job, show paychecks and all that. Then assuming, your "husband" doesn't actually go and work anywhere else in the next 5 years and use the SSN/tax info for another company that would show the fraud.

The whole thing is stupid and risky. Lets say he DID get the GC. Then for the next 20 years you'd be sitting in the USA and may get caught. You could be booted out at any time, even with the GC if it were obtained thru fraud. Prepared for that noose around your neck? Be serious.
 


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