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Apr 16th 2014, 7:45 pm

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Re: Police and Education

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Originally Posted by md95065

Even bigger picture:

Rule #0. Don't be an asshole - to anyone - not even (or perhaps, especially) to an "uneducated" policeman ...

Why? Are we in a police state? It's that kind of thinking that puts a country in one.

Apr 16th 2014, 7:53 pm

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As I say, those are just the 'police' exams. They're not going to demonstrate actual performance in the field. Heck, I'm sure even Simon Harwood (a stain on the police service) could have passed Hendon.

Just as holding a piece of paper from a university is not going to dictate how you perform in the "real world".
Surely if the tests were that easy then the university educated fellows should have walked the test? This does not appear to have been the case?

Apr 16th 2014, 7:54 pm

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Re: Police and Education

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Lets keep it easy so I can understand.

Apr 16th 2014, 7:55 pm

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Horace...although you are one of the self proclaimed "best and brightest" a little courtesy and consideration does go a long way.

With all due respect.

Apr 16th 2014, 8:04 pm

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Re: Police and Education

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Originally Posted by hungryhorace

Rule #1. NEVER ask a copper for legal advice. Ask a qualified lawyer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by md95065

Even bigger picture:

Rule #0. Don't be an asshole - to anyone - not even (or perhaps, especially) to an "uneducated" policeman ...

Further picture revealed by:

Rule #n. Don't lecture a police officer on the law.

Apr 16th 2014, 8:08 pm

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Re: Police and Education

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Rule #n. Don't lecture a police officer on the law.

Even when they have no clue? Wow, it's like the old days where police officers were respected within society.

Apr 16th 2014, 8:11 pm

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Re: Police and Education

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Rule #n. Don't lecture a police officer on the law.

To which might be added:
Educate oneself about the true meaning of "educated" before tossing the term "uneducated" about.

Apr 16th 2014, 8:16 pm

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Re: Police and Education

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Originally Posted by sir_eccles

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Rule #n. Don't lecture a police officer on the law.

Now, this has to stop. Rule #n can't exist - 'n' is a variable so the rule number would be constantly changing

Apr 16th 2014, 8:17 pm

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I have a lot of time for this train of thought, please don't get me wrong. I just happen to also think the minimum educational attainment standard to join the UK police service is woefully low.

Apr 16th 2014, 8:23 pm

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Re: Police and Education

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Now, this has to stop. Rule #n can't exist - 'n' is a variable so the rule number would be constantly changing

I was hedging on whether someone else would come up with a Rule #2 before I posted.

Apr 16th 2014, 8:26 pm

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Re: My own brush with Heart Attacks and US Healthcare ...

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I have a lot of time for this train of thought, please don't get me wrong. I just happen to also think the minimum educational attainment standard to join the UK police service is woefully low.

But not everybody is suited to the univeristy way of education and lifestyle, this does not mean they can't become excellent police officers! I know several that this applies to, their beats/areas are far better off with them being in the profession they are in.

Its a very big brush your stroking with.

Apr 16th 2014, 8:27 pm

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Re: Police and Education

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I was hedging on whether someone else would come up with a Rule #2 before I posted.

We'll be getting into negative numbers soon if this keeps up

Anyway, it's possible to have a series of concurrent rules #1, provided they all apply to different things which, in this case, they seem to. Plus, they're all silly rules anyway.

Apr 16th 2014, 8:56 pm

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Re: Police and Education

Constantly telling people how rich and educated you are usually means you're neither.

Apr 16th 2014, 8:57 pm

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Constantly telling people how rich and educated you are usually means you're neither.

I certainly don't consider myself to be rich, far from it. Would need to be a millionaire to reach that title. Educated, yes, I consider myself that though.