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Old Feb 18th 2023, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
So the cash in Nepal last month, with the deaths of all 72 on board, was, according to the initial report, the result of one of the pilots accidentally put both propellers into the the "fully feathered" position (which would be done if an engine failed and the pilot needs to minimise drag on the aircraft from an unpowered prop), instead of moving the adjacent flap lever to 30ยบ for landing. The result of this is high drag for the engine, and zero propulsion.

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Shocking, especially given the pilots combined experience...what happened to pilot monitoring?
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Old Feb 18th 2023, 5:28 pm
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Shocking, especially given the pilots combined experience...what happened to pilot monitoring?
Indeed, and worse still, if you watch the video I linked, the pilot who made the error was apparently an instructor pilot, who on this occasion was supposed to be training the other pilot on landing at the new airport!

I think the shocking thing in this case was that, because they were so close to landing, so already slow and low, there was literally only 60s from the wrong levers being moved to the time of impact, so there were only a very few seconds available to identify the problem and remedy it. I suspect that by 45s post-mistake it was already too late to save the aircraft.
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Anyone else seen Plane yet?
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Indeed, and worse still, if you watch the video I linked, the pilot who made the error was apparently an instructor pilot, who on this occasion was supposed to be training the other pilot on landing at the new airport!

I think the shocking thing in this case was that, because they were so close to landing, so already slow and low, there was literally only 60s from the wrong levers being moved to the time of impact, so there were only a very few seconds available to identify the problem and remedy it. I suspect that by 45s post-mistake it was already too late to save the aircraft.
Yes, it was (too late).

Also, too many (recent) accidents caused by rookie errors.
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Anyone else seen Plane yet?
As Father Dick Byrne says "NO!"?
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Anyone else seen Plane yet? ....
No. I didn't see balloon either, though I noticed shortly afterwards that it had passed very close to Pulaski Manor. I don't know if it would have been visible had I looked for it.
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Indeed, and worse still, if you watch the video I linked, the pilot who made the error was apparently an instructor pilot, who on this occasion was supposed to be training the other pilot on landing at the new airport!

I think the shocking thing in this case was that, because they were so close to landing, so already slow and low, there was literally only 60s from the wrong levers being moved to the time of impact, so there were only a very few seconds available to identify the problem and remedy it. I suspect that by 45s post-mistake it was already too late to save the aircraft.
CRM at it's finest. As the saying goes, takeoff and landing are the most dangerous part of flight. Another example in favor of AI.
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Originally Posted by Expatrick
As Father Dick Byrne says "NO!"?
I watched it and it reminded me of Flight of the Phoenix which I then discovered was remade not too long ago.
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Drone (?) up over Ukraine, right now - make what you will of the callsign -


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More interesting is the one that regularly flies all the way from Spain or Italy and spends most of the daytime orbiting just south of Crimea..



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More interesting is the one that regularly flies all the way from Spain or Italy and spends most of the daytime orbiting just south of Crimea..
Had the privilege to be involved with the early trials of Global Hawk, all those years ago.
Of course, then we weren't allowed to refer to it by name.
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The Ford Trimotor is at our airport (Tullahoma TN) giving rides this weekend. From 1925 to 1933 199 were built.

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Beautiful machine. Similar vintage to one I spotted last year in Belgium:



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Just saw an article where the UK has retired the C130 in favor of a committee designed airbus that the military hates. Expensive and unreliable.
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Beautiful machine. Similar vintage to one I spotted last year in Belgium:

Lockheed Twelve "Electra"

That's a beautiful interior! Is that leather on the sides? The steering wheels (probably not the correct terms ) look amazing too. Wouldn't mind going up in that thing!
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