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Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12191925)
Much as I dislike HoAs, bear in mind that in larger subdivs membership of the HoA typically comes with membership of a pool and sports facilities such as a gym and tennis courts.
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Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12191930)
That's all very well, but they arent going to like him standing in the alley drinking beer with Bill and Boomhauer.
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Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12191930)
That's all very well, but they arent going to like him standing in the alley drinking beer with Bill and Boomhauer.
Checking out a nice place later, not too far from here, with an optional HOA. I'm fully prepared to keep the place presentable, after all I don't want my house's or street's value to be compromised. I just don't like the idea of having to forcefully pay dues, which in 20 years who knows what the price would be, or face a lien on the property. It seems a step too far in losing control over my land. |
Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12191925)
I entirely agree with your philosophy, but that is going to severely restrict your choice in the nicer parts of Charlotte, to the extent that I will be genuinely surprised if you find somewhere agreeable given that stipulation, as HoAs seem to be omnipresent in Charlotte subdivs going back around 40-50 years. ...... That said, I think your options will be most likely on non-subdiv roads and/or older properties, which have there own drawbacks.
Much as I dislike HoAs, bear in mind that in larger subdivs membership of the HoA typically comes with membership of a pool and sports facilities such as a gym and tennis courts. Also, per my post above, you will still be subject to Charlotte city ordinances, covering such things as grass mowing and yard maintenance (e.g. bushes and tree obstructing or overhanging the sidewalk), parking (on and off-street), the sort of furniture allowed on your porch, unlicensed cars, not leaving your garbage can by the kerb, etc. etc. When I lived in SF (as opposed to the burbs of SF), one neighbor painted his ornate Victorian house solid black, top to bottom, without a hint of 'detail'. It was hideous. One guy I had the displeasure to work with was a total and utter slob, and he collected junk cars on his front lawn and used them for parts. He finally got cited by the city, but it took years for him to comply. He was up in arms about his 'rights', and had no concept of how his house was impacting others. His desk was, not surprisingly, the same ... I finally had to fire him and had the great pleasure of cleaning out his desk ... decaying food was only one of the many surprises I found. On balance, I'm now in favor of a good deal of rules, as long as they pertain to the general upkeep of the place, and also things like barking dogs, massive RVs parked on the driveway, paint color, window coverings, etc - because I've seen what their absence can lead to first hand. |
Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by Steerpike
(Post 12192160)
I can just about appreciate the underlying animosity towards HOAs, but ... after being around a while, I've seen an awful lot of really ugly stuff perpetrated by individual homeowners. Yes, it's your property, but - it's in full view of all the other properties and it does materially affect the other properties (be it just visual impact, or the affect on resale value). If you want to jack up your rear (hidden) yard, go for it, but the 'front yard', and front of the house, is 'shared' in many respects.
When I lived in SF (as opposed to the burbs of SF), one neighbor painted his ornate Victorian house solid black, top to bottom, without a hint of 'detail'. It was hideous. One guy I had the displeasure to work with was a total and utter slob, and he collected junk cars on his front lawn and used them for parts. He finally got cited by the city, but it took years for him to comply. He was up in arms about his 'rights', and had no concept of how his house was impacting others. His desk was, not surprisingly, the same ... I finally had to fire him and had the great pleasure of cleaning out his desk ... decaying food was only one of the many surprises I found. On balance, I'm now in favor of a good deal of rules, as long as they pertain to the general upkeep of the place, and also things like barking dogs, massive RVs parked on the driveway, paint color, window coverings, etc - because I've seen what their absence can lead to first hand. I hate my neighbors RV, I am waiting for him to die or move out. |
Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by Steerpike
(Post 12192160)
I can just about appreciate the underlying animosity towards HOAs, but ... after being around a while, I've seen an awful lot of really ugly stuff perpetrated by individual homeowners. Yes, it's your property, but - it's in full view of all the other properties and it does materially affect the other properties (be it just visual impact, or the affect on resale value). If you want to jack up your rear (hidden) yard, go for it, but the 'front yard', and front of the house, is 'shared' in many respects.
When I lived in SF (as opposed to the burbs of SF), one neighbor painted his ornate Victorian house solid black, top to bottom, without a hint of 'detail'. It was hideous. One guy I had the displeasure to work with was a total and utter slob, and he collected junk cars on his front lawn and used them for parts. He finally got cited by the city, but it took years for him to comply. He was up in arms about his 'rights', and had no concept of how his house was impacting others. His desk was, not surprisingly, the same ... I finally had to fire him and had the great pleasure of cleaning out his desk ... decaying food was only one of the many surprises I found. On balance, I'm now in favor of a good deal of rules, as long as they pertain to the general upkeep of the place, and also things like barking dogs, massive RVs parked on the driveway, paint color, window coverings, etc - because I've seen what their absence can lead to first hand. We live in a non-HoA area, but we received a snarky note, sent anonymously, but we traced to a woman down the road, who was a known busybody, when I didn't complete the house painting as quickly as she would have liked. Most neighbours were glad that we were covering over a nasty reddish-pinkish-brown colour that was truely hideous, and almost looked like it should have been a primer as it had a matt finish. :blink: I even got compliments from neighbours as I worked, but that wasn't good enough for the witch down the road. :rolleyes: |
Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12192202)
I agree, without reservation. You only have to look at what can go wrong in property outside HoA restricted developments, as you listed, to see why people put up with some of the antics HoAs engage in.
We live in a non-HoA area, but we received a snarky note, sent anonymously, but we traced to a woman down the road, who was a known busybody, when I didn't complete the house painting as quickly as she would have liked. Most neighbours were glad that we were covering over a nasty reddish-pinkish-brown colour that was truely hideous, and almost looked like it should have been a primer as it had a matt finish. :blink: I even got compliments from neighbours as I worked, but that wasn't good enough for the witch down the road. :rolleyes: |
Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by mrken30
(Post 12192222)
There seems to be one of these in every neighborhood. I think is should be listed on the disclosures.
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Re: Pet Peeves?
The biggest investment most people make in their lives is buying and owning a home. I can understand people having concerns about the appearance of the neighborhood. One slob homeowner can and does sometimes bring down the value of the surrounding properties. I'm generally a live and let live kind of guy but who would want a rusty old pick up sitting on blocks in the neighbouring driveway, an old ragged sofa out on their front porch and bed sheets for window curtains?
I've seen many a property like that during my travels around this country |
Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by dc koop
(Post 12192522)
The biggest investment most people make in their lives is buying and owning a home. I can understand people having concerns about the appearance of the neighborhood. One slob homeowner can and does sometimes bring down the value of the surrounding properties. I'm generally a live and let live kind of guy but who would want a rusty old pick up sitting on blocks in the neighbouring driveway, an old ragged sofa out on their front porch and bed sheets for window curtains?
I've seen many a property like that during my travels around this country Did I mention the ever present bottle of beer? :hehe: |
Re: Pet Peeves?
People who take goods out of the chiller cabinet, one of the upright ones, and then leave the frigging door open, which means that the food still in there warms up, it's a simple sliding door ffs.
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Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 12198175)
People who take goods out of the chiller cabinet, one of the upright ones, and then leave the frigging door open, which means that the food still in there warms up, it's a simple sliding door ffs.
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Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 12198175)
People who take goods out of the chiller cabinet, one of the upright ones, and then leave the frigging door open, which means that the food still in there warms up, it's a simple sliding door ffs.
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Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by tom169
(Post 12190633)
Was driving home today from checking out some houses when I saw a sign for girl scout cookies. Figured I'd surprise the Mrs with some so I followed the signs... And kept following more signs... Until there was no more and no sight of cookies. :(
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Re: Pet Peeves?
Originally Posted by robin1234
(Post 12191650)
Well, I've never heard of this anywhere in New York. Folks in NYS dry their laundry outside, grow noxious weeds galore (including luxuriant stands of Japanese knotweed) and park junked cars everywhere.
This type of thing may happen in Long Island though .... |
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