Palin the Saviour
Oct 13th 2008 | 5:25 am
#46
BE Enthusiast
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Re: Palin the Saviour
I think it's ****ing hilarious the way so many republicans/conservatives bang on about Obama (and Hillary Clinton) calling them "far left", "Marxist", "socialist" and so on. Anybody who uses these terms to describe any significant figure in today's US politics is just broadcasting a profound ignorance of political science.
Oct 13th 2008 | 5:29 am
#47
Lost in BE Cyberspace
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Re: Palin the Saviour
No, he is running for governor of Minnesota, the state that produced Jessie Ventura, Eugene McCarthy (anti war US Senator that beat LBJ in NH forcing LBJ to not seek another term), and the DFL (Democratic/Farm Labor Party).
Oct 13th 2008 | 5:31 am
#48
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Re: Palin the Saviour
googlefu sez: Democratic candidate in 2008 for US Senator from Minnesota
Oct 13th 2008 | 5:33 am
#49
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Oct 13th 2008 | 5:37 am
#50
Sursum corda
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From: Richmond Hill, GA USA
Re: Palin the Saviour
Oct 13th 2008 | 5:50 am
#51
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Re: Palin the Saviour
Most of the 2/3 of the republicans on the right do not want any government solutions and most of the remaining 1/3 of the democrates on the left want a welfare state.
What I find is that democrates overall seem to accept and respect whoever gets elected president but that is not always the case for republicans. As an example, when Clinton was elected president, the right wing of the republican party was immediately on his case even though he was about as center of the road as a politician can get. Now Clinton had his faults and couldn't keep his pants zipped up but I don't understand why he would be so hated by the right wing. A conservative republican uncle of mine just hated Clinton and when I asked him why, he said he didn't know but he just didn't like the guy.
Oct 13th 2008 | 5:52 am
#52
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Oct 13th 2008 | 5:55 am
#54
The Unmod
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 8,870
From: Glen Mills, PA
Re: Palin the Saviour
Never mind hunting, I find it incomprehensible that most "Pro Lifers" find nothing inconsistent in their support for the death penalty for humans. They are the ones mostly in favour of sending our youngsters to war as well. I thought their bible said "Thou shalt not kill" full stop, I didn't see any loopholes or caveats when I read it.
Oct 13th 2008 | 6:06 am
#55
A lion in your lap
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,605
From: Sparta NJ
Re: Palin the Saviour
I think they try to get round this by claiming that the original wording of the commandment was "thou shalt not murder", and that it has been frequently mistranslated
Oct 13th 2008 | 6:17 am
#56
The Missus
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From: Northwest of Chicago
Re: Palin the Saviour
Oct 13th 2008 | 6:26 am
#57
Curry Magnet
Joined: Feb 2008
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From: 5.3 miles from the Taj Mahal, PA
Oct 13th 2008 | 6:28 am
#58
Curry Magnet
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From: 5.3 miles from the Taj Mahal, PA
Re: Palin the Saviour
My husband has spent time in abbatoirs, it was a required part of his training.
The captive bolt to the head does not kill them, it stuns them. Pigs are electrocuted, rather than have the bolt to the head. Then (in either case) their throat is cut, and then they bleed out which actually kills them. There are more (worse) things that happen, but I'm not even willing for him to tell me.
Also, the animals do not enjoy their time in feedlots, etc. while waiting for slaughter.
Yes, in hunting, a shot that doesn't kill outright can cause suffering to those unfortunate animal.
But all the animals in the abbatoirs certainly suffer significant distress. It's not a pretty business.
I admit to liking my meat, so I'll admit to being a bit of a hypocrite - I couldn't bear to hunt, and I certainly won't visit an abbatoir. But I do still refrain personally from criticising responsible hunters.
The captive bolt to the head does not kill them, it stuns them. Pigs are electrocuted, rather than have the bolt to the head. Then (in either case) their throat is cut, and then they bleed out which actually kills them. There are more (worse) things that happen, but I'm not even willing for him to tell me.
Also, the animals do not enjoy their time in feedlots, etc. while waiting for slaughter.
Yes, in hunting, a shot that doesn't kill outright can cause suffering to those unfortunate animal.
But all the animals in the abbatoirs certainly suffer significant distress. It's not a pretty business.
I admit to liking my meat, so I'll admit to being a bit of a hypocrite - I couldn't bear to hunt, and I certainly won't visit an abbatoir. But I do still refrain personally from criticising responsible hunters.
Oct 13th 2008 | 6:41 am
#60
Peace onion
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,686
From: Denver
Re: Palin the Saviour
I don't spit period. Unless I'm running.
Nice sideburns, btw. Going for the Ming the Merciless look?
\ Looks out the window for hot hail.
\\ You may now return to knocking Bible Spice.
Last edited by Octang Frye; Oct 13th 2008 at 6:50 am.
