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Old Oct 31st 2011, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
The treatment of Palestine is an absolute outrage.
Absolutely, how can they let people that willingly charge headlong into armed conflict with Israel be part of the UN?

Their government excludes a full quarter of the people living in Palestinian territories from voting, that is on the few occasions when they get to vote because the president’s term expired in 2009 but he unilaterally extended his own term and fired his elected cabinet .

I should imagine they will prance into the UN imminently, practically model members unlike their nasty secularist and democratic Jewish neighbours .
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Originally Posted by Charismatic
Absolutely, how can they let people that willingly charge headlong into armed conflict with Israel be part of the UN?

Their government excludes a full quarter of the people living in Palestinian territories from voting, that is on the few occasions when they get to vote because the president’s term expired in 2009 but he unilaterally extended his own term and fired his elected cabinet .

I should imagine they will prance into the UN imminently, practically model members unlike their nasty secularist and democratic Jewish neighbours .
When will this myth stop. Keeping people from going back to their homes, because you can guess who they will vote for, is not the sign of a democracy.
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Originally Posted by kimilseung
When will this myth stop. Keeping people from going back to their homes, because you can guess who they will vote for, is not the sign of a democracy.
What homes?
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Palestinians can vote in all Israeli elections, last time more than half of them did. Israeli law guarantees Arab citizens of Israel the same rights as other Israeli citizens without distinction of race, creed or sex.

Awful hating Jews .
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Originally Posted by Charismatic
Israeli law guarantees Arab citizens of Israel the same rights as other Israeli citizens without distinction of race, creed or sex.
Not really. The Law of Return applies only to Jews.
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Originally Posted by Charismatic
Absolutely, how can they let people that willingly charge headlong into armed conflict with Israel be part of the UN?

Their government excludes a full quarter of the people living in Palestinian territories from voting, that is on the few occasions when they get to vote because the president’s term expired in 2009 but he unilaterally extended his own term and fired his elected cabinet .

I should imagine they will prance into the UN imminently, practically model members unlike their nasty secularist and democratic Jewish neighbours .
Very well put.

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Originally Posted by kimilseung
When will this myth stop. Keeping people from going back to their homes, because you can guess who they will vote for, is not the sign of a democracy.
Sounds like a dreamy idea. And they will live happily ever after.

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Originally Posted by fatbrit
Not really. The Law of Return applies only to Jews.
Jews can return to where they were booted out from, I never knew that.
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Originally Posted by Charismatic
Palestinians can vote in all Israeli elections, last time more than half of them did. Israeli law guarantees Arab citizens of Israel the same rights as other Israeli citizens without distinction of race, creed or sex.

Awful hating Jews .
Riiiight. Here's but one example of the discrimination that Arab citizens of Israel face:

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...ation-1.376666
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
It was passed by a very pro-Israeli Congress in the '90's and Clinton - iirc - signed it knowing that there were enough votes to overcome any veto. It's a great example of why it's so difficult for the US to be a neutral party in this conflict and why the Palestinians are continually screwed by the needs of domestic US policy. Personally I say screw the US's money: there's no way trhe rest of the world should not do what is right just because the US will take their ball home to mummy.
Interesting.
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Jews can return to where they were booted out from, I never knew that.
But Palestinians can't.

My personal opinion is that both sides are pretty well as bad as each other, BTW.
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Riiiight. Here's but one example of the discrimination that Arab citizens of Israel face:

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...ation-1.376666
Just a thought, I wonder how well Jews get treated in courts, in Muslim countries?
Or how well Christians, get treated in courts, in Muslim countries?

Those Israeli courts, they send people to Football stadiums, so they can have their heads chopped off, or get stoned to death, while the kind considerate mob cheers on.

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But Palestinians can't.

My personal opinion is that both sides are pretty well as bad as each other, BTW.
Mine too.. which is why the current lop-sided treatment of Israel and Palestine is simply wrong and unproductive.
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Mine too.. which is why the current lop-sided treatment of Israel and Palestine is simply wrong and unproductive.
It's dragging things out.
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Originally Posted by frrussre
Just a thought, I wonder how well Jews get treated in courts, in Muslim countries?
Or how well Christians, get treated in courts, in Muslim countries?

Those Israeli courts, they send people to Football stadiums, so they can have their heads chopped off, or get stoned to death, while the kind considerate mob cheers on.
The claim was that Arabs get treated equallly in Israel. They don't. The fact that some Muslim countries have appalling human rights records is irrelevant to that.
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