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Old Jul 17th 2017, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by petitefrancaise
We all pay teachers' salaries through taxation of one sort or another, if the fund hasn't had enough paid in in the first place, then that's hardly the teachers' fault.
That's not really relevant to the point that Boiler was making, namely why should the taxpayer pick up retirement healthcare costs of teachers?

Originally Posted by petitefrancaise
The ones most badly affected are the ones not old enough for medicaid which starts at 65

I'm no expert on any of this but there does appear to be a fair amount of outrage
Medicare. And, again, why should the taxpayer pick up the cost of healthcare for teachers who retire prior to the Medicare eligibility age?
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Old Jul 17th 2017, 4:58 am
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Originally Posted by robin1234
Isn't that because Medicare pays 80%? Retiree medical plans are secondary to Medicare, so I'm not sure how much they actually cost to run. In the case you describe, Austin teachers, it can't cost much to run since it is secondary to Medicare and has a high deductible ....
I presume, like many such schemes, it's insolvent because teachers can retire well before 65 and get their healthcare costs covered.

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Old Jul 17th 2017, 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
That's not really relevant to the point that Boiler was making, namely why should the taxpayer pick up retirement healthcare costs of teachers?



Medicare. And, again, why should the taxpayer pick up the cost of healthcare for teachers who retire prior to the Medicare eligibility age?
Exactly.
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Old Jul 21st 2017, 5:36 am
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The missus, when she spent a few hours in the ER recently, that was almost $15K and we had to pay about $300 after getting a discount and after the insurance paid.

Follow up, day surgery was $25K for about 10 hours in the hospital. We're on the hook for around $1.5K after the insurance paid their discounted rate.

Fun times.
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The missus, when she spent a few hours in the ER recently, that was almost $15K and we had to pay about $300 after getting a discount and after the insurance paid.

Follow up, day surgery was $25K for about 10 hours in the hospital. We're on the hook for around $1.5K after the insurance paid their discounted rate.

Fun times.
My son had a tibial avulsion fracture, with ambulance, surgery and recovery room the all-in total billed to the insurance company was well over $45k. I was on the hook for around $3k before I hit my max OOP.

Probably scarier to me was looking at the full rate compared to the insurance discounted rate. In general it was getting close to 4 times the billed amount.
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My son had a tibial avulsion fracture, with ambulance, surgery and recovery room the all-in total billed to the insurance company was well over $45k. I was on the hook for around $3k before I hit my max OOP.

Probably scarier to me was looking at the full rate compared to the insurance discounted rate. In general it was getting close to 4 times the billed amount.
Yes, the cash rate without insurance is silly. When our kid broke her arm, it was around $30K all in after all the follow up visits and there wasn't even a operation. It was mostly because she was young, so they did a lot of check ups and her hand did touch her elbow when she broke it. A spot of change shy of $3K just for the initial cast FFS
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