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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431024)
Opinions are subjective, so while I would agree that there are many good pies, mostly containing meat, or otherwise containing stewed fruit, and with a pastry lid, I believe that the pinnacle of the pie world is the steak and kidney pie, with steak and ale as a close runner-up. :nod:
Otherwise it would be considered as a quiche? Negative karma reduced ;) |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431024)
Opinions are subjective, so while I would agree that there are many good pies, mostly containing meat, or otherwise containing stewed fruit, and with a pastry lid, I believe that the pinnacle of the pie world is the steak and kidney pie, with steak and ale as a close runner-up. :nod:
I considered foregoing the cheap shot in pursuit of real karma, but in the end couldn't pass up the opportunity. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by caretaker
(Post 12431043)
So would you eat that with a knife and fork, spoon, fork alone, or all three? ....
A fork alone is only for rice or (some) pasta dishes. :nod: |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431060)
A fork alone is only for rice or (some) pasta dishes. :nod:
Steak and Ale however... yum. |
Re: Karma
In a church basement in a small town in Saskatchewan the Queen and Prince Philip attended a traditional fowl supper (harvest supper) and the lady clearing the dishes said, "Oh keep your fork Prince, there's pie."
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431060)
Knife and fork if it contains meat, spoon if it contains fruit. :)
A fork alone is only for rice or (some) pasta dishes. :nod: |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 12431404)
Fruit pie? Spoon and fork, not just spoon. Maybe it's a London thing?
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12431294)
Or for stabbing the kidneys out of your pie and dropping them into the trash. :sick:
Steak and Ale however... yum. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431410)
Probably - spoon and fork is posh. As a child I was only given a spoon for pudding, and even today, if given a spoon and fork for dessert I will generally choose only one, depending whether or not the dessert has any sauce or liquid.
Come on guys. The perfect tool for that kidney (yucky) pie is a SPORK. I might one day try your steak pie but I do not like kidneys. I do like liver and onions but not the damn kidneys. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Rete
(Post 12431453)
Come on guys. The perfect tool for that kidney (yucky) pie is a SPORK.
I might one day try your steak pie but I do not like kidneys. I do like liver and onions but not the damn kidneys. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12431294)
Or for stabbing the kidneys out of your pie and dropping them into the trash. .....
Steak and Ale however... yum.
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12431458)
I've covered this before, but to reiterate, when you unzip an animal (after peeling it), anything that falls out of the inside is garbage and should be treated as such.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy
(Post 12431034)
Pastry lid goes without saying, n'est pas?
Otherwise it would be considered as a quiche? Negative karma reduced ;) Though, a Shepherd's Pie has no pastry at all, and I think it gets a pass because they're the dog's bollocks.
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12431458)
I've covered this before, but to reiterate, when you unzip an animal (after peeling it), anything that falls out of the inside is garbage and should be treated as such.
That being said, steak n' kidney is a decent pie. I do prefer steak and ale, or steak and Guinness though. Chicken pot pie is the shit as well, but if you try put a pea anywhere near it I'll stab you. On the sweet side, it's hard to beat good old apple pie with a big dollop of vanilla ice cream. Mmmmm. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12431473)
On the sweet side, it's hard to beat good old apple pie with a big dollop of vanilla ice cream. Mmmmm. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 12431476)
Or a very nice bit of Wensleydale cheese with a cold apple pie.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431459)
You don't know much about anatomy if you think that kidneys, or indeed liver and heart, "fall out" when you unzip the animal. The kidneys especially are securely attached in place, near the spine, from where they can be carefully harvested. :)
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12431482)
I would also include all the items you are able to scoop out after flipping it over to unzip it. A bit like the method you might use if (when?) making a canoe out of it.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12431482)
I would also include all the items you are able to scoop out after flipping it over to unzip it. A bit like the method you might use if (when?) making a canoe out of it.
You need a very sharp knife, of a good length, and a fair bit of skill and experience to eviscerate a large mammal. It's also best done outdoors and/or where the floor can be hosed-down. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431494)
"Scoop out"? :confused:
You need a very sharp knife, of a good length, and a fair bit of skill and experience to eviscerate a large mammal. It's also best done outdoors and/or where the floor can be hosed-down. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12431487)
And I thought they smelled bad ... on the outside.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12431496)
I don't think Nutek is being 100% serious here.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12431497)
Yes, or making a sleeping bag. :D
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12431498)
When am I ever anything but serious? ;)
I will say though, much as people rail against offal, a nice bit of liver and onions is really bloody good. Haven't had it in ages (mostly because I'm the only person in my house who eats liver and kidney), but my mum used to make it all the time with spuds and gravy. Ohh, the nostalgia. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12431500)
:lol:
I will say though, much as people rail against offal, a nice bit of liver and onions is really bloody good. Haven't had it in ages (mostly because I'm the only person in my house who eats liver and kidney), but my mum used to make it all the time with spuds and gravy. Ohh, the nostalgia. That's how I make it, as well. Like the liver on the medium side, not bloody but pink, lots of onions, mashed spuds and gravy. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Rete
(Post 12431505)
That's how I make it, as well. Like the liver on the medium side, not bloody but pink, lots of onions, mashed spuds and gravy.
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Re: Karma
I just don't want to eat anything that had a primary purpose of straining piss.
Fortunately, evolution has seen to it that all of the tasty parts are on the outside and easily accessible. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Nutek
(Post 12431519)
I just don't want to eat anything that had a primary purpose of straining piss.
Fortunately, evolution has seen to it that all of the tasty parts are on the outside and easily accessible. |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12431509)
It's underrated as a meal. Plus liver used to be dirt cheap (probably still is) too so you get a slap up dinner for bargain prices. I think me and my mum were the only ones that ate liver though, I know my sister doesn't like it but I can't remember if my dad did. Oh well.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Rete
(Post 12431528)
Me, my Dad and my husband enjoy this for dinner. Mom would make it for Dad and me but she and my Sis wouldn't touch it. Just like they wouldn't eat fish either. And yes, it was always dirt cheap.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12431473)
A quiche has to have eggs, doesn't it?
Though, a Shepherd's Pie has no pastry at all, and I think it gets a pass because they're the dog's bollocks. Shepherd's and Cottage pies are indeed worthy of full-on pie status. On the kidney front, I am right alongside Nutek. Approach them cautiously, keep calm and get them in the waste bin at the earliest opportunity. Keep a spade or shovel within reach at all times. Liver... is simply not to be found here. :( Cannot remember the last time I had it. My mum also used to make liver, onions and mash as mentioned by SultanOfSwing. Ok, he said spuds not mash, but you get the picture. But he forgot to mention bacon... |
Re: Karma
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12431509)
It's underrated as a meal. Plus liver used to be dirt cheap (probably still is) too so you get a slap up dinner for bargain prices. I think me and my mum were the only ones that ate liver though, I know my sister doesn't like it but I can't remember if my dad did. Oh well.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431564)
When I ask for chicken livers at our local cafeteria I invariably get a huge serving, though we usually go in shortly before closing time, so I assume they want to get rid of everything they have already cooked and can't keep until the next day.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy
(Post 12431550)
But he forgot to mention bacon...
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431564)
When I ask for chicken livers at our local cafeteria I invariably get a huge serving, though we usually go in shortly before closing time, so I assume they want to get rid of everything they have already cooked and can't keep until the next day.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12431566)
They probably like it when you come in, then. ....
He looked at me and laughed - "I have all this good stuff", waving his hand over the other choices, "and you want chicken livers?". :lol: I stuck with the chicken livers. :)
Originally Posted by Rete
(Post 12431573)
We won't serve liver with bacon. Bacon has no place on the same dish as gravy.
Originally Posted by Rete
(Post 12431574)
When making a roast chicken or turkey, the kidneys, liver and hearts were boiled for the broth and then they were chopped up and given to the dog. .....
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431589)
We went in one Christmas eve a few years ago, and after looking at the choices on the serving line, asked the manager, who unusually was working the serving line that day (presumably to give someone the day off), for chicken livers. He looked at me and laughed - "I have all this good stuff", waving his hand over the other choices, "and you want chicken livers?". :lol:
I stuck with the chicken livers. :) |
Re: Karma
Liver and onions is a traditional and popular Venetian dish. Can't stand it myself. You'd think fish would be more popular in Venice.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Lorna at Vicenza
(Post 12431592)
Liver and onions is a traditional and popular Venetian dish. Can't stand it myself. You'd think fish would be more popular in Venice.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12431590)
I'm not sure whether that means the other stuff was shite, or that the chicken livers were just that good ...
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 12431599)
Well about half the choices I never take (but when isn't that true for any restaurant/menu?) But that day I just fancied chicken livers as I hadn't had any for a while, and Mrs P won't cook them at home, at least not since she stopped making baby food for little Miss P.
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing
(Post 12431597)
Maybe they got sick of eating fish and decided to give liver a go. You know, the logical progression ...
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Re: Karma
Originally Posted by Lorna at Vicenza
(Post 12431602)
Perhaps. Italians are very particular and precise when it comes to their own regional dishes. Risotto alla Milanese. Ragù alla Bolognese etc.
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